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Apple's plot to crush OpenAI


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It's public beta season, which means David and Nilay have been upgrading some devices this week. We talk through the good and bad of our early experiences with Siri AI, and what it'll take for next-gen Siri to be a hit. After that, we discuss the real reason Apple decided to sue OpenAI over trade secrets, OpenAI's forthcoming smart speaker, the new Pixel colors, our emoji strategies, Brendan Carr, and much more.


Further reading:

  • Apple’s public betas for iOS 27 and more are out now 
    • Siri AI makes the Apple Watch finally feel like a wrist computer 
      • Siri AI is already changing how I use my iPhone 
        • The macOS 27 public beta is worth it just for the Liquid Glass tweaks 
          • Apple sues OpenAI for allegedly stealing hardware secrets 
            • Suno snatched millions of songs from YouTube, Genius, and Deezer
              • Sam Altman didn’t need another lawsuit 
                • The 6 wildest claims in Apple’s lawsuit against OpenAI 
                  • Another turn in the Apple v. OpenAI dispute. 
                    • OpenAI has a new statement about Apple’s lawsuit. 
                      • OnePlus officially gives up on the US and Europe
                        • OnePlus is dead in the US. Did it ever have a chance?
                          • Samsung shows off ‘brand new shape’ for Z Fold 8 in Spider-Man teaser
                            • OpenAI may announce a ChatGPT smart speaker this year 
                              • OpenAI finally launches hardware… for Codex
                                • Pixel Watch 5 leak shows off four different finishes 
                                  • The Pixel colors might rule this year 
                                    • The PS6 sure sounds like a handheld 
                                      • Brendan Carr plans to let broadcast giants dominate the airwaves
                                        • X admits its broken algorithm made the site feel like a ‘battleground’ 
                                          • States make last-ditch effort to stop the Paramount ‘media behemoth’ 
                                            • Paramount lead trial counsel on state AG suit: This merger is pro-competitive
                                              • The new cracking face emoji might be an all-timer. 
                                                • Google’s Demis Hassabis says it’s time for a global AI watchdog — led by the US 
                                                  • Google and Epic give up fighting — third-party Android app stores are coming next week
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                                                    (Timestamps are approximate.)


                                                    00:01:00 Intro

                                                    00:02:00 Apple Betas and New Siri

                                                    00:08:00 Gemini Car Assistant Fails

                                                    00:15:00 Apple Sues OpenAI

                                                    00:18:00 Trade Secret Law Explained

                                                    00:28:00 Settlement or Long Fight

                                                    00:35:00 OpenAI Home Device Doubts

                                                    00:42:00 Smartphone Platform Lessons

                                                    00:50:00 Pixel Colors and Naming

                                                    00:52:00 OnePlus Retreat Explained

                                                    00:55:00 Carriers and iPhone Lock In

                                                    01:05:00 Brendan Carr Bribery Scandal

                                                    01:14:00 Emoji Lightning Round

                                                    01:18:00 X Algorithm Rediscovery

                                                    01:23:00 Foothills Of Singularity

                                                    01:29:00 Paramount Merger Spin

                                                    01:33:00 Wrap And Plugs

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