Without the Bank Podcast

Are You Saving Money the Wrong Way? (Ep. 240)


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Feel "broke" even though you've got money in savings and retirement? You might be trapped by compartmentalized thinking, paying 25–30% on credit cards while your "retirement money" sits idle.

In this episode, we show you how to see your finances as one pool of money, become your own banker, and pay yourself back, without making money more complicated.

👉 Follow Mary Jo Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXYvzroUouEMsTGKFw5nJHQ 👉 Get the book: https://www.withoutthebank.com/book/

We break down Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker and the "97/3" insight: wealth is a skill, not a windfall. You'll see how banking is a process you already participate in, and how to start controlling more of it. From braces and car payments to IRAs and credit cards, we show how small shifts (and an honest repayment plan to yourself) can transform cash flow.

Key Takeaways: ◦ Money is one pool, no matter how many accounts you split it into. ◦ Don't earn 5% in an IRA while paying 25–30% on credit cards—that math loses. ◦ Becoming your own banker = borrow from your pool and pay yourself back (with interest). ◦ Wealth is a skill: discipline, tracking, and continuous learning beat lucky breaks. ◦ Control cash flow first; assets and compound growth follow.

Chapters 00:00 Why you feel "broke": the compartmentalization trap 01:27 Becoming Your Own Banker (Intro to the first chapter) 01:58 The 97/3 rule: wealth as a skill, not a windfall 03:18 Can't manage $1? You can't manage $1M (cash flow vs income) 04:13 Spending leaks: Starbucks, dining out, and "must be nice" 06:16 Lottery winners & why sudden money rarely lasts 08:14 "You don't have to change anything"… actually, you do (habits) 09:36 Continuous learning vs arrival syndrome 11:11 Banking is the most important business; money must flow 12:31 There's only one pool of money 14:09 Using IRAs vs bank loans: the real cost of capital 15:45 We've been trained to think money is "complicated" 16:06 Retirement balances vs 30% cards: pay yourself back instead 18:27 Braces example: cash discount, banker hat, repayment plan 19:12 It's not complicated—use an amortization schedule 20:23 Control the banking function in your life 21:12 Overwhelm? Start with baby steps + an advisor 22:29 Choose your hard: money stress vs money discipline 23:35 Why money problems strain everything (even marriages) 24:28 Keep learning the language of money 25:14 What's next & how to get the books

👉 If this helped, like & subscribe for more real-talk money strategy. 💬 Drop a comment: What's one bill you could start "paying back to yourself" this month?

📩 Questions? Email us. Mary Jo: [email protected] Tarisa: [email protected]

🧮 Need a plan? Use the amortization calculator mentioned to set your personal "pay-yourself-back" schedule. 📚 Get the books: Life Without the Bank and Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker.

Links Mentioned: Life Without The Bank and Becoming Your Own Banker 🔗 https://www.withoutthebank.com/book/ Amortization Schedule 🔗 https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/amortization-calculator/

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