Joe Devine, JJ Bull and Jon Mackenzie are here to talk about some football.

Arsenal continued their best ever start to a top flight season with a 3-2 win over Manchester United. 

But are Mikel Arteta's touchline antics a marginal gain or a sign of the moral failure of the entire football club?

Chelsea versus Liverpool was not that interesting. So instead we spoke about Chelsea's new lengthy contracts. 

Are they an unusual outlier or a presage of things to come?

We move on to a win for West Ham in Frank Lampard's last game as Everton manager. 

Did we record before he was sacked? Of course we did.

There was also an inexplicable amount of discussion about cows in this episode.

The Tifo football podcast is presented by Joe Devine and produced by Steve Hankey.

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