I have the best, most loyal friends from different parts of my life but I’ll be honest, the idea of making NEW friends makes my pits sweat. I’m in my late forties, but even thinking about making new friends and all of a sudden I’m thrust back into my middle school when a group of girls made fun of me for walking into their circle and introducing myself.

On the podcast this week, Penn and I spoke to Dr. Marisa G. Franco, a friendship expert who wrote the book “Platonic: How The Science of Attachment Can Help You Make—and Keep—Friends.” She explained why friendship is essential at every stage of life, and friends can help you discover a totally new side of yourself. We dive deep into the science of friendship, trends between men and women, and how you can apply these same concepts to having healthy relationships with family. Dr. Franco shares one thing you can do right now to make friends—and it’s probably not what you think.

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Kim and Penn are online content creators known for their award-winning videos, including original music, song parodies, and comedy sketches. Their videos have resulted in over 2 billion views and 8 million followers across their social media platforms since they (accidentally) went viral in 2013. They have a best-selling book on marriage communication, a top-rated podcast, a fun-filled family card game, and most recently, they were the winners on Season 33 of The Amazing Race.

The Holderness Family Podcast is edited and engineered by Max Trujillo of Trujillo Media and produced by Ann Marie Taepke, Sam Pressman, and Ashley Cimino.

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