As a detective, Gary Jubelin used to sit on one side of the interview room table facing murderers, child abductors and rapists. Now he’s sitting on the other side: disgraced, forced out of the police and judged to be a criminal. His new book Badness, shows us the view from the other side.

One of Australia’s most famous detectives has done a very different kind of investigation; instead of locking up criminals he’s befriended some of the country's worst criminals to understand what made them bad. 

In today’s Briefing, Gary Jubelin, former NSW police homicide detective who is famous for leading the William Tryell investigation, and then being booted out of the force for illegal recordings, explains how and why his own criminal conviction has given him a very different perspective on the criminal mindset. His book Badness, is out today.

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