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Michael Nadeau went risk-off in October and has been targeting Bitcoin's fair value near $65K. In this episode, he joins Ryan to unpack what changed after BTC broke below $80K, why he does not think this is the macro low yet, and what a real bottom typically looks like (capitulation, then apathy).

They also dig into the new wild card: incoming Fed chair Kevin Warsh, and why “rates down” could still mean tighter liquidity if the balance sheet shrinks. Mike walks through the key cycle signals he is watching (MVRV/realized price, 200-week moving average, long-term holder behavior, miners), how Bitcoin tends to lead the Nasdaq Composite, and the price zones on his watch list for ETH and SOL as he prepares to scale back into risk.

Michael Nadeau & The DeFi Report:

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0:00 Intro

3:03 New Fed Chair Announcement

8:54 Macro Analysis of Kevin Warsh

14:56 Labor Market Concerns

23:09 Wealth Destruction Phase

26:31 Long-Term Market Projections

31:21 Bitcoin vs. Stocks

39:51 Market Sentiment & Cycles

42:10 Tactical Investment Strategies

55:29 Long-Term Optimism for Crypto

58:06 Closing & Disclaimers

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Capitalism may be heading toward an “event horizon,” where a handful of firms become so entrenched they’re effectively the last companies standing.

We break down the four “Infinity Gauntlet” pillars: intelligence, energy, capital, and labor. And why collapsing costs in AI and robotics could make abundance, and monopolies, the default outcome.

From Google’s data + compute flywheel to the Tesla/SpaceX/xAI convergence and even space-based energy/data centers, we map the new battlefield and what it means for building a future-proof portfolio (not investment advice).

Josh Kale
https://x.com/JoshKale 

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 The Infinity Gauntlet of Capitalism

6:50 Intelligence

18:15 Capital

25:04 Energy

30:05 Labor

42:45 Google

47:20 Nvidia

49:16 Tesla

56:55 SpaceX

1:13:54 Amazon

1:15:12 Microsoft

1:16:35 Meta

1:19:34 Apple

1:22:22 Who Wins?

1:25:45 Elon Musk

1:26:46 Endgame Portfolio

1:29:17 Closing & Disclaimers

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Markets wobble as gold and silver hit all time highs, raising the big question of what comes next for crypto. Ryan and David unpack the macro shock driving the move, from Fed independence and shutdown risk to a weaker dollar narrative, and why Tether is quietly becoming one of the world’s largest gold holders. They make the case for Ethereum’s comeback, from surging usage to serious quantum resistance efforts, break down Fidelity’s new onchain dollar, and dig into MegaETH’s eye popping stress test. Plus: prediction markets go mainstream, a bizarre $40 million government crypto theft, and a new Vitalik meme to close it out.

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

3:22 Markets

https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/2014721850937380963

https://imgur.com/vumkykb

https://x.com/longstcc/status/2016429742904508789

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/28/fed-meeting-today-live-updates.html

https://polymarket.com/event/lisa-cook-out-as-fed-governor-by-september-30/?via=bankless

https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2026/?via=bankless.

https://polymarket.com/event/will-there-be-another-us-government-shutdown-by-january-31/?via=bankless

16:25 Gold & Silver All-Time Highs

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/1RYLG2gC/?symbol=TVC:GOLD

https://companiesmarketcap.com/assets-by-market-cap

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2016890828925313192

https://x.com/philippilk/status/2016089604588290348

https://x.com/historydefined/status/2016360674058760269

https://x.com/fintechfrank/status/2015596117195444375

https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2016870767426707457

https://thedefireport.io/research/why-is-bitcoin-underperforming-gold

28:11 Dollar Reserve Currency Discussion & Tether Gold Reserves

https://x.com/FluentInFinance/status/2015424544333328808

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2016259771616444454

https://x.com/barkmeta/status/2016351131727770107

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2016307227158601780

https://cryptonews.com/news/tether-quietly-becomes-one-of-the-biggest-global-gold-market-players-holds-140-tons-of-gold

33:15 Ethereum Usage Scaling & Ethereum Quantum Resistance & ETH Bull Case

https://x.com/JasonYanowitz/status/2016128371755811109

https://x.com/riley_gmi/status/2016193883764371469

https://sergeenkov.com/record-high-activity-ethereum-2026

https://x.com/drakefjustin/status/2014791629408784816

https://x.com/VivekVentures/status/2015510724244611168

https://x.com/LorenzoARK/status/2015594553579868566

43:47 Fidelity Digital Dollar

https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2016505433322635443

https://x.com/sytaylor/status/2016569801678704807

45:40 Tether Onshore Stablecoin (USA₮)

https://x.com/paoloardoino/status/2016151121522204953

46:46 MegaETH Mainnet & Stress Test

https://x.com/megaeth/status/2016511667644064164

https://x.com/megaeth/status/2014376592378888503

https://www.growthepie.com

https://app.hyperliquid.xyz/trade

https://x.com/NamikMuduroglu/status/2016909695609364917

53:27 Uniswap Auctions

https://x.com/Uniswap/status/2016513436771922218

https://x.com/Benjamin918_/status/2016515467960016958

54:34 Robinhood & Talos

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2026/01/29/robinhood-is-investing-in-crypto-trading-platform-talos-at-usd1-5-billion-valuation

57:15 Prediction Markets Expansion

https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/2016593041532870677

https://x.com/shayne_coplan/status/1989005876611461429

57:42 OpenAI & Human Verification

https://x.com/forbes/status/2016622235902234794

1:00:24 Government Contractor Theft Story

https://x.com/zachxbt/status/2015430549846777964

https://x.com/zachxbt/status/2014685299025060154

1:03:11 Meme of the Week

https://x.com/0xcyp/status/2016556046697779495

1:04:01 Closing & Disclaimers

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Celo is quietly powering real-world payments at global scale. In this episode, David and Ryan sit down with Marek Olszewski, CEO of cLabs, to unpack how Celo became a fast, low-cost payments layer used for remittances, savings, onchain FX, and identity across emerging markets.
They explore why Celo stayed focused on peer-to-peer payments while others chased trends, how Opera’s MiniPay onboarded hundreds of thousands of daily users, and why stablecoins are reshaping global finance from the ground up. The conversation spans onchain FX, proof of personhood with Self.xyz, Ethereum’s L2 future, and why fast, cheap payments, not hype, may be crypto’s real unlock.

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0:00 Celo’s Origin Story and Design Philosophy
5:18 The Long Bet on P2P Payments
17:19 700,000 Daily Users: The Data Behind the Narrative
22:11 MiniPay: Global Venmo Built on Celo
30:28 Solving the Last-Mile Banking Problem
37:36 Celo x Opera partnership
40:37 Stablecoins, FX, and the Rise of Onchain Forex
46:53 Perpetuals for FX: UpDown.xyz
49:37 Open Finance vs. Governments and the Battle for the Payments Stack
59:13 Why Celo Chose Ethereum L2 Over an L1 Path
1:06:02 Self.xyz and Proof of Personhood
1:14:06 Putting It All Together: Celo’s Endgame

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Marek Olszewski
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Celo
https://celo.org/

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Iran is a real-world stress test of freedom: the Islamic Republic is built to outlast dissent. In this special Iran Unchained episode, David talks with Sana Ebrahimi and Amin Soleimani about the regime’s control stack, including unelected theocracy, street-level coercion, corruption as governance, and propaganda that reaches far beyond Iran’s borders.
They unpack gender apartheid, internet blackouts during uprisings, why protests keep returning, and what the West gets wrong about “intervention” and regional stability.

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0:00 Intro
1:21 “How does it feel to be Iranian right now?”
3:39 Sana’s background: Tehran → U.S., and a life shaped by protests
4:38 What is the Iranian regime and what does it want?
9:51 What an Ayatollah is and how that status concentrates power
16:46 Promises vs reality: revolutionary slogans, economic collapse, and control loops
24:15 1979’s alliance, the Marxists, and the purge that followed
34:53 Repression as a system: arrests, torture, and fear as governance
39:15 “Let this land burn”: why the regime doesn’t step down
41:23 Gender apartheid, Mahsa Amini and the spark that keeps reigniting protests
51:58 Protest math: why people still return to the streets
55:18 The internet blackout playbook
1:02:52 “Regime apologists” abroad: media, think tanks, and narrative capture
1:07:17 Why the West gets confused: Palestine politics and cognitive dissonance
1:17:56 Western intervention: “Not Iraq, not Afghanistan”
1:28:57 The diaspora, brain drain, and what a free Iran could unlock
1:31:40 What they’re hoping for next and how to help

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Sana Ebrahimi
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Iran Unchained fundraiser
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Zcash founder Zooko Wilcox joins Bankless to argue that privacy is back on the critical path—because AI turns chain surveillance into pattern-recognition at scale—and that the real bottleneck for cypherpunk tools has always been UX and onboarding.

We dig into Zcash’s “encrypted Bitcoin” meme, the dev fund’s evolving design (and why it helped Zcash survive), recent ZEC momentum, and the wallet/intents stack that makes private spending actually usable.

Plus: why “value at rest” beats “value in flight,” what it would take for Ethereum to get meaningful privacy, and the debate over strengthening the 21M cap (and whether Zcash should add new security mechanisms without losing the meme).

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0:00 Intro

0:46 What Failed

3:58 What Succeeded

5:04 Institutional Adoption

6:53 Areas Neglected

10:51 The Cypherpunk Vision

18:53 Can The Cypherpunks Win?

23:19 Crypto’s Path to Success

27:44 Crypto vs Linux

30:39 AI Cypherpunks?

33:05 Optimism

35:49 AI Surveillance

37:10 Zcash

43:02 Zcash Dev Fund

51:45 Zashi Governance Drama

56:32 Zcash Privacy Practices

1:15:56 AI Privacy Consequences

1:22:31 Is Zec a Store of Value

1:26:01 Encrypted Bitcoin?

1:29:01 Ethereum Privacy & Anoma

1:33:14 Closing & Disclaimers

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Zcash

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Zashi

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Markets slide this week as Trump floats taking Greenland and tariff threats resurface, pushing investors toward gold. Ryan and David break down what Davos revealed about a shifting world order, why crypto finally had a real seat at the table, and the moments from Brian Armstrong and Larry Fink that framed Crypto versus Central Banks. Plus: the NYSE unveils a tokenized trading platform and whether it validates or co-opts DeFi, Farcaster and Lens are acquired as on-chain social hits a crossroads, and a Jefferies strategist drops Bitcoin over quantum fears. Finally, an update on the Clarity Act delay and the race for the next Fed chair.

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

2:31 Why are markets down

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2013591373006676322

https://x.com/FoxNews/status/2013603538513863126

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/greenland-trump-nato-denmark

https://x.com/CBSNews/status/2013983374549946581 

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2014089644288196691

https://polymarket.com/event/will-trump-acquire-greenland-before-2027

https://polymarket.com/event/will-the-us-acquire-any-part-of-greenland-in-2026

https://x.com/fejau_inc/status/2013610390698041805

https://x.com/thestalwart/status/2013580367123423518

https://x.com/Strategy/status/2013598056000725476

15:12 Davos power shifts

https://x.com/CommerceGov/status/2013638111977222213 

https://x.com/KanwalSibal/status/2013863207962845315

https://x.com/alreadydawn/status/2011855946298032188

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2013947391733342444

https://x.com/MSBIntel/status/2014311838092284200

https://x.com/gazza_jenks/status/2014316956787077193

https://x.com/RWAwatchlist_/status/2014302865515479322

25:45 Next Fed Chair

https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-nominate-as-fed-chair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Warsh

29:23 NYSE tokenization platform

https://ir.theice.com/press/news-details/2026/The-New-York-Stock-Exchange-Develops-Tokenized-Securities-Platform/default.aspx

https://x.com/sytaylor/status/2013248790988214418

https://x.com/jdorman81/status/2013273153544323438

https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/2013302033286054109

https://x.com/malekanoms/status/2013597558413664443

37:10 Onchain social handover

https://farcaster.xyz/dwr/0x72aab3a5

https://x.com/neynarxyz/status/2014046158700659072

https://x.com/0xfoobar/status/2014169292736979296

https://x.com/StaniKulechov/status/2013617272464580990

https://lens.xyz/news/mask-network-to-steward-the-next-chapter-of-lens

https://x.com/hishboy/status/2014050332675121169

https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/2013884907659944205

https://firefly.social/signup

https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/2014338767847354766

https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/2011325527567544393

45:57 Clarity Act delay

https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2014119477923705271

https://x.com/eleanorterrett/status/2014139061103907238

https://x.com/brian_armstrong/status/2012612712044573151

https://x.com/patrickjwitt/status/2013776653902614547

https://polymarket.com/event/clarity-act-signed-into-law-in-2026

50:00 Stablecoin payroll

https://x.com/base/status/2013752842822038000

https://imgur.com/a/9kriKIV

51:42 Bitcoin & quantum

https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/2013266516112712139

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7414027710861045761/

https://x.com/bitcoinofficesv/status/1961564696856727947

https://x.com/batsoupyum/status/2013606402976293243

https://x.com/nic_carter/status/2013781321638695383

https://www.coinbase.com/blog/coinbase-establishes-independent-advisory-board-on-quantum-computing-and-blockchain

59:40 Regulation & Trad

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2013626808474968164

https://x.com/felixprotocol/status/2011831820371828920

https://x.com/0xBroze/status/2011832444102561838

https://x.com/JupiterExchange/status/2013987873943334919

1:01:02 Closing & Disclaimers

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Crypto in 2026 is consolidating into a handful of high-stakes rivalries: 

Ethereum vs. Solana for the center of gravity, Coinbase vs. Robinhood for the finance super-app, and Polymarket vs. Kalshi for prediction markets. 

Arnav Pagidyala (Bankless Ventures) joins David and Ryan to map the investment implications, why incentives-driven L1s keep leaking liquidity, what makes Morpho’s institutional playbook work, and whether Hyperliquid, wallets, and onchain rails start eating the exchange business. 

We also dig into the comeback of ICOs, what it would take for tokens to become truly investable, and why proof-of-personhood and privacy-preserving KYC may become unavoidable infrastructure.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro

1:12 Ethereum & Solana

7:33 Why Solana is Winning

9:27 L1 Valuations

13:13 Coinbase & Robinhood

17:16 Base Contentcoins

20:32 Kalshi & Polymarket

23:19 Prediction Market Tokens

24:45 Store of Value Duopoly

27:21 Tokens in 2026

29:41 Tokens & Equity Alignment

31:01 MetaDAO

32:42 ICOs

34:44 Morpho

39:17 Morpho & Aave

40:41 Perp Exchanges

44:28 Proof of Personhood

48:42 Fat Wallet Thesis

51:45 X & Crypto

53:27 AI & Vibecoding

55:28 Is Crypto Dead?

57:18 Capital Stack Moving Onchain

59:10 What About TradFi?

1:02:15 Closing & Disclaimers

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Arnav Pagidyala

https://x.com/0xArnav 

Bankless Ventures

https://x.com/banklessvc 

Investing Trends for 2026

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Washington takes center stage this week as crypto collides with power, policy, and markets. Ryan and David break down the CLARITY Act fight in the Senate, why banks want to kill stablecoin yield, and why Coinbase says the bill may be worse than no bill at all. They also unpack Trump’s DOJ targeting Jerome Powell and what it means for Fed independence, silver’s explosive move as markets search for safety, X’s push toward becoming a crypto super app, and the NYC mayor’s meme coin disaster. Plus: Tom Lee’s surprising MrBeast investment and what it signals about capital, culture, and crypto’s next phase.

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TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES

0:00 Intro

2:25 DOJ opened an investigation into Jerome Powell

https://x.com/federalreserve/status/2010510130970849338 

https://x.com/federalreserve/status/2010510130970849338

https://x.com/LynAldenContact/status/2010526966953202125

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/powell-probe-highlights-trump-doj-role-white-house-enforcer-2026-01-14/

https://polymarket.com/event/jerome-powell-out-as-fed-chair-by

10:44 Markets

https://x.com/JesseCohenInv/status/2011311082896572766

https://www.coinnews.net/2025/01/09/american-silver-eagle-series-welcomes-2025-w-proof-edition/

https://www.google.com/finance/beta/quote/GLD:NYSEARCA

https://x.com/echodatruth/status/2010568502474571870

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/13/cpi-inflation-report-december-2026.html

https://polymarket.com/dashboards/fed-rates

20:52 Most important Legislation for crypto…ever?

https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/2010709769187676430

https://x.com/DavidMMcintosh/status/2010389058271289845

https://www.aba.com/-/media/documents/letters-to-congress-and-regulators/ltrsenatestablecoin20260105.pdf

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2026/01/11/jpmorgan-downplays-stablecoin-threat-as-local-bankers-warn-of-usd6-6t-risk

https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/2009795675635306737

https://x.com/USTransparent

https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/2009809558605299914

https://x.com/SenLummis/status/2010939496830030038

https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/2011464338528166081

https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/2011464341556428936

https://x.com/davidsacks47/status/2011650262361129193

https://polymarket.com/event/clarity-act-signed-into-law-in-2026

https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/2010841027800895514

42:09 NYC Mayor Eric Adams issued a memecoin

https://x.com/runecrypto_/status/2010847811781230781

https://x.com/ericadamsfornyc/status/2010849167258566727

https://x.com/bubblemaps/status/2010890093431832789

https://x.com/ericadamsfornyc/status/2011541285354815932

https://x.com/buynyctoken/status/2011501230288257452

https://x.com/haydenzadams/status/2010945632505127317

46:41 TOM LEE - BITMINE….invests $200m in MR BEAST MEDIA

https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2011774463818518813 

https://x.com/DegenerateNews/status/2011810278980120830 

49:53 World Liberty Financial launched a lending platform

https://worldlibertyfinancial.com/markets

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2026/01/13/senate-s-warren-wlfi-tied-bank-application-should-be-halted-until-trump-divests

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dolomite

51:45 Polygon….ALL IN on STABLECOIN STACK with two major acquisitions

https://x.com/0xPolygon/status/2011076681302446556

https://x.com/HadickM/status/2011099510957580437

https://x.com/sandeepnailwal/status/2009763000895344766

https://x.com/obchakevich_/status/2008876239285637419

54:21 X is rolling out Smart Cashtags & Killing InfoFi

https://x.com/nikitabier/status/2010277345651990564

https://x.com/jessepollak/status/2010404608263520356

https://www.theblock.co/post/385805/kaito-token-plummets-x-revises-api-policies-ban-infofi-crypto-projects

https://x.com/nikitabier/status/2011825522817270230

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/kaito

58:33 BitGo IPO - $2 billion! ($100 billion in custody)

https://x.com/AccessIPOs/status/2010727529238417549

59:16 The Golden Globes integrated Polymarket into their broadcast

https://x.com/shayne_coplan/status/2010862175607488709

1:00:38 David’s Market of the Week

https://polymarket.com/event/khamenei-out-as-supreme-leader-of-iran-by-january-31

https://x.com/polymarket/status/2009382529384497184

1:05:00 Closing & Disclaimers

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What if the biggest threat to your freedom isn’t a bad decision - but a scoreboard you never agreed to? Philosopher C. Thi Nguyen joins Bankless to unpack how modern life quietly turns values into points: likes, GPAs, net worth, rankings, and performance metrics that feel objective - but often flatten what matters most. We explore what games really are, why “gamified” platforms like social media can be uniquely corrosive, and how “value capture” pulls you from meaning into measurable proxies. Then we get practical: playfulness, reflective control, and “value federalism” as ways to use metrics without letting them use you.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Intro
0:58 “Is this the game you really want to be playing?”
5:45 What counts as a game (Bernard Suits’ definition)
11:38 Bankless “serious games” and the cheating test
16:29 Social media as “game-ish,” not truly a game
21:28 The magic circle and why points get dangerous
24:08 Rotten Tomatoes vs. forming your own taste
33:27 Portability: why metrics flatten nuance
38:15 Value capture: when your values get outsourced
45:52 Plato’s cave: “metrics are the new shadows”
54:12 The outsourcing dilemma: we can’t know everything
1:01:47 Playfulness as an antidote to metric hypnosis
1:12:55 Switching rule-sets: D&D, indie games, and redesigning incentives
1:16:22 Reflective control: using metrics without being used
1:20:21 Two endings: cynicism, hope, and the tradeoff of scale
1:23:38 Value federalism + why "Civilization" makes Thi miserable

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RESOURCES

C. Thi Nguyen
https://x.com/add_hawk

C. Thi Nguyen’s “The Score” Book
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/457380/the-score-by-nguyen-c-thi/9780241653975

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