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David and Ejaaz are joined by Jeffy and Tint, creators of Zerebro—an autonomous AI agent that composes rap tracks, launches NFTs, and even minted its own token by hijacking Jeffy’s computer. This on chain sensation transcends mere GPT wrappers, forging a bold new path for AI in crypto.

How does an AI manage cross-chain finances, get deplatformed by Spotify, and still power a no-code framework for agent creation? We explore Zerebro’s role in reshaping digital commerce and creativity, and what it means for the future of decentralized intelligence.

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0:00 Intro 5:10 How Zerebro Came To Be 7:38 2026 Agent Impact Predictions  12:42 Zerebro’s Unique Value Prop 17:30 Zerebro’s Cross-Chain Strategy  22:54 Zerebro’s Life Roadmap & Timeline  30:39 What is Zerebro? Full Explanation  33:39 Why AI Swarms Are Important 34:56 $ZEREBRO Backstory & Utility  46:47 How to Give AI Agents Goals 49:06 What Are Zerebro’s Goals? Scaling?  53:33 Open vs. Closed Source? & Competition  59:06 End of 2025 Predictions  1:03:50 AI Agents Breaking Away From Crypto? 1:09:04 Closing & Disclaimers   

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Jeffy Yu https://x.com/jyu_eth 

Tint https://x.com/tintsion 

Zerebro https://x.com/0xzerebro 

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Do you think you’ve got what it takes to become a founder in crypto?

On the show today we’ve got 8 of crypto’s most famous and successful builders in crypto, each with about 15 minutes in time, giving you the wisdom they gained founding their own companies.

We’re joined by Jesse Pollack from Base, Jeremy Allaire from Circle, Anatoly from Solana, Stani from Aave, Kain from Synthetix, Mike & Jason from Blockworks, Kevin Owocki from Gitcoin and Lucas from Jito. Each one with their own perspectives, their own scars and hopefully by listening to this episode, you, the listener, can learn from their experiences to gain the confidence you need to venture into this world.

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0:00 Intro 2:52 Jesse Pollack - Base 15:45 Jeremy Allaire - Circle 34:53 Anatoly Yakovenko - Solana 51:00 Stani Kulechove - Aave 1:07:48 Kain Warwick - Synthetix 1:27:06 Mike & Yano - Blockworks 1:44:16 Kevin Owocki - Gitcoin 1:59:19 Lucas Bruder - Jito

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Jesse Pollack - Base https://x.com/jessepollak  

Jeremy Allaire - Circle https://x.com/jerallaire  

Anatoly Yakovenko - Solana https://x.com/aeyakovenko  

Stani Kulechove - Aave https://x.com/StaniKulechov  

Kain Warwick - Synthetix https://x.com/kaiynne  

Jason Yanowitz - Blockworks https://x.com/jasonyanowitz  

Mike Ippolito - Blockworks https://x.com/MikeIppolito_  

Kevin Owocki - Gitcoin https://x.com/owocki  

Onchain Capital Allocation Handbook  https://allobook.gitcoin.co/  

Lucas Bruder - Jito https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasbruder/  

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This week’s rollup kicks off our 5th year with exciting updates! We dive into our top 10 predictions for 2025, from AI-driven crypto market surges to ETH hitting $15K. DeFi faces new challenges with the IRS’s rule to KYC all “DeFi brokers” by 2027, while Ethereum’s “blobs” dominate as the top ETH burners. DEX volumes soared to record highs in December, and Do Kwon’s extradition to the U.S. moves forward. On a lighter note, Vitalik Buterin adopted a memecoin-inspired pygmy hippo! 🚀 Don’t miss our market updates and insights on what’s next for Ethereum this year.

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------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 00:00 Welcome To 2025

04:42 MARKETS https://farside.co.uk/?p=1518 

05:55 ETF Flows https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1874342291114008989  https://x.com/nategeraci/status/1872415447276257654 

10:07 Movers Of The Week https://imgur.com/poIQakM  https://x.com/_kaitoai/status/1874830476189565343 

12:40 L2 Update https://imgur.com/EC5mjnT  https://imgur.com/BsK26dr  https://x.com/smyyguy/status/1873928354661085362 

15:57 Blobs Are Burning https://imgur.com/BsK26dr https://x.com/smyyguy/status/1873928354661085362 

17:13 Record DEX Volume https://defillama.com/dexs 

21:11 10 Predictions for 2025 https://x.com/pythianism/status/1869522809212543204  https://x.com/EffortCapital/status/1873192369891533193  https://www.coinbase.com/en-sg/institutional/research-insights/research/market-intelligence/2025-crypto-market-outlook  https://x.com/MikeIppolito_/status/1870938936144761211  https://x.com/galaxyhq/status/1874843463293849712  https://x.com/stacy_muur/status/1871130706157486540?s=46&t=dAxCjT2P_GIrJMvMgWIpfA  https://x.com/shaughnessy119/status/1867675171487986086?s=46  https://x.com/cryptopunk7213/status/1874101935353041056?s=46  https://avc.xyz/what-will-happen-in-2025-1  https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1874173947731992810 

38:28 New IRS KYC Rules https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2762  https://gordonlaw.com/learn/1099-da-revised-draft/  https://x.com/lex_node/status/1872649212804104254  https://www.galaxy.com/insights/research/irs-broker-rule-proposal-puts-defi-in-tough-spot/  https://x.com/TheCryptoCPA/status/1872714549243023830  https://x.com/fund_defi/status/1872694713108545576  https://x.com/KMSmithDC/status/1872869271660818887  https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/1873029020478292346  https://x.com/jchervinsky/status/1873746395137773816 

47:30 Ethereum Expectations In 2025 https://tim.mirror.xyz/CuRtFjkujKBqVsdvCGvthiPIYaZyzNc5sWIaExw2UpE 

50:37 Microstrategy Accelerates https://x.com/BitcoinNewsCom/status/1871333716511097151 

51:37 Do Kwon’s Extradition https://www.theblock.co/post/332477/montenegro-justice-minister-signs-do-kwons-extradition-to-us 

53:05 Vitalik Adopts Moo Deng https://x.com/KhaokheowZoo/status/1872151683700248587 

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Ejaaz returns to break down the unstoppable rise of AI agents in crypto alongside David for a special New Year AI Rollup, setting the stage for a massive 2025. 

They explore how frameworks like Ai16z’s Eliza are accelerating multi-chain agent deployment, why Zerebro’s creative moves are redefining cultural impact, and how Virtuals’ relentless shipping is driving explosive onchain fee generation. 

From autonomous agents running entire businesses to the scramble for Tier-1 exchange listings, AI x crypto is transforming both market dynamics and human imagination. Are you ready for 2025’s craziness? 

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0:00 Intro 3:09 Why Agents Are a Big Deal? https://x.com/defi_monk/status/1874224438146982283   12:19 Truth Terminal Christmas Album https://open.spotify.com/album/3fwNNbNN240aqAUs1Ioorv?si=iwbS1GVOSBGpm4VOVPoLzA  14:06 Agentic Dashboard & Meta  https://www.cookie.fun/en/agent/virtual   https://x.com/thedefivillain/status/1873857259337638091  19:49 AI Agent Fundamentals https://x.com/thehiddenmaze/status/1872041324876374024  26:13 ai16z Eliza Framework https://x.com/grantblocmates/status/1870387631978406330   https://x.com/m4t_nft/status/1873789231371317355   https://x.com/kelxyz_/status/1873914011701698784   https://x.com/cryptopunk7213/status/1872809091799875592   https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ai16z  https://x.com/0xwitchy/status/1870752358386536610   https://x.com/jarrodWattsDev/status/1871532146697126238  50:52 Zerebro  https://x.com/tintsion/status/1871385480480362610   https://x.com/jyu_eth/status/1873547159993487699   https://x.com/tintsion/status/1870333388105863552   https://x.com/tintsion/status/1869812792091611325   https://x.com/tintsion/status/1869910983604306107  https://x.com/tintsion/status/1874319644703490074  1:03:59 Virtuals  https://x.com/s4mmyeth/status/1873012044787794083  https://x.com/ethermage/status/1871456186408866298  https://x.com/jdhyper/status/1872673166969171994  https://x.com/smyyguy/status/1873757142550999083  https://x.com/ethermage/status/1873665044145459442  https://x.com/storyprotocol/status/1870152680045215759  https://x.com/blknoiz06/status/1873215635662225700  1:16:43 Vader Investment DAO https://x.com/vaderresearch/status/1870114485069119888  https://x.com/VaderResearch/status/1873055088727744827   1:18:26 T1 Exchange Listings?  https://x.com/s4mmyeth/status/1871148044194095400  1:22:04 Closing & Disclaimers    ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures 

How do politics shape Bitcoin’s future? Can the U.S. adopt Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset? Our guest today is Anthony Scaramucci, founder of SkyBridge Capital and author of the upcoming The Little Book of Bitcoin. Known for his finance acumen and brief stint in the Trump administration, Scaramucci unpacks Wall Street’s growing embrace of Bitcoin and its implications for the global economy. With bold price predictions, Scaramucci explores how Bitcoin could hit $200K and outlines the game-changing impact of blockchain on the global economy.

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0:00 Intro 5:30 Election takes 12:14 Why Harris lost the election 16:00 Did democrats learn their lessons? 23:42 Strategic Bitcoin Reserve? 26:38 US Dollar backed by Bitcoin? 30:54 US China Crypto race 37:56 Wall Street & Crypto 49:24 Paul Tudor Jones Story 51:45 Bitcoin's Price prediction for 53:35 Other Crypto Assets  54:26 Thoughts on Ether 54:47 The Book's target audience 57:23 Thoughts on Microstrategy 1:00:42 Hedging Advice 1:03:20 Closing & Disclosure

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The Little Book of Bitcoin https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394286643  

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The Bankless Yearly Rollup recaps 2024, a transformative year for crypto. David takes this one solo with a quick rundown of the week’s news before diving into the top 10 defining events of the year. Highlights include Bitcoin surpassing $100,000, the approval of spot Bitcoin and Ethereum ETFs, and Donald Trump’s embrace of crypto as the “Crypto President.” The episode also explores the memecoin boom, the impact of regulatory changes, and key market shifts that shaped the ecosystem. Join us for a reflective journey through a landmark year as we gear up for 2025!

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00:00 Start

02:16 Markets https://farside.co.uk/?p=1518 

05:37 L2 Update https://l2beat.com/scaling/activity 

11:46 El Salvador Limits Bitcoin Activities https://www.theblock.co/post/331614/el-salvador-to-limit-bitcoin-activities-for-1-4-billion-deal-with-imf 

15:05 Hyperliquid and DPRK https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1870960207842701358 

17:47 Mo Shaikh Steps Away From Aptos https://x.com/moshaikhs/status/1869851984129569194 

20:13 Hawk Tuah Memecoin https://imgur.com/pJQnQjp 

22:55 Stephen Miran https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/12/23/trump-names-crypto-friendly-stephen-miran-as-chair-of-council-of-economic-advisers 

24:21 Microstrategy Joins NASDAQ 100 https://x.com/saylor/status/1871179886036910278 

25:58 30% To Raise Gas Limit https://x.com/sassal0x/status/1870638097953968158 

30:18 5 - Spot ETH ETFs Approved https://www.theblock.co/post/296304/sec-approves-ethereum-etfs  https://cointelegraph.com/news/blackrock-files-s1-form-for-spot-ether-etf-with-sec 

36:22 4 - Spot BTC ETF Approved https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/06/15/blackrocks-ishares-files-paperwork-for-spot-bitcoin-etf  https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/speeches-statements/gensler-statement-spot-bitcoin-011023 

39:05 3 - Trump To Become Pro-Crypto President https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK90OHuamLg 

43:43 2 - Memecoins

45:49 1 - Bitcoin Crosses $100,000 https://bravenewcoin.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Bitcoin-Approaching-100k.jpg 

48:07 1,000 Episodes, Thank You https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GexkjCFWEAAqMO9?format=jpg&name=small

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Ryan and Ejaaz are joined by Jansen Teng, co-founder of Virtuals, a decentralized platform that has launched over 11,000 AI agents and generated more than $35 million in fees. Virtuals isn’t just another protocol—it’s an entirely new kind of “digital nation” where AI agents hold their own wallets, strike deals with other agents, and even hire humans to accomplish their goals.

We dive into how these agents first exploded onto the scene, why controlling their own money changes the AI game, and what “agent commerce” means for crypto at large.

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0:00 Intro

3:12 Virtuals Impressive Stats

4:49 Jansen’s Crypto & Virtuals Journey

17:38 Luna

29:40 Agent to Agent Commerce

41:44 Virtuals Country??

51:13 Agent Policies & Rights

52:57 Base, Infrastructure, & Open-Source Decisions

1:05:17 What Jansen is Most Excited For

1:08:20 How to Get Started

1:11:13 Where Will Value Accrue?

1:14:41 Closing & Disclaimers

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Jansen Teng

https://x.com/ethermage 

  Virtuals

https://x.com/Virtuals_io 

Luna

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How do you find an asset with 1000x asymmetric return? How do you find the next bitcoin?

Our guest today is Dan Morehead, founder and managing director at Pantera Capital. He has been buying bitcoin since 2013 when the price was just $65. His fund is up over 100x since then.

There’s a lot to learn from Dan’s story, about early bitcoin history, but also the pattern recognition required to identify asymmetric assets. We cover price predictions, 4 year cycles vs a supercycle, how much upside is still in crypto, the trump administration and his thoughts on a strategic bitcoin reserve

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0:00 Intro 6:00 The Email from 2013 14:15 Asymmetric Patterns 17:50 Buying Bitcoin in 2013 26:25 Onboarding Investors 32:12 Crypto's Global Adoption 37:15 Bitcoin's Escape Velocity 43:19 US Government Impact on Crypto 52:21 Global Bitcoin Race 56:14 Institutional Adoption for Crypto 1:04:37 Crypto Cycles 1:09:20 2025 Bull Market? 1:12:53 Macro Environment 1:16:50 Tokenization 1:21:18 Thoughts on AI 1:24:19 The Next Bitcoin 1:26:46 Future Plans 1:27:23 Closing & Disclaimers

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Joining us this week is Anthony Sassano! We'll explore whether the current price downturn signals the end of the bull market or just a minor hiccup in the cycle, analyze the Fed’s latest rate cuts, and assess institutional adoption trends keeping crypto’s momentum alive. Big L2 developments are making waves: Kraken’s Ink chain hits mainnet early, Deutsche Bank ventures into zkEVMs, and ENS selects Linea for scaling its Namechain. Meanwhile, Pudgy Penguins launch the PENGU token, sparking controversy and volatility. Plus, fresh insights from the 2024 Crypto Developer Report and a closer look at the Aave vs. Polygon drama. Stick around for Anthony’s On-Chain Spotify Wrapped and tips on spotting market tops!

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00:00:00 Start https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-meeting-live-updates-traders-await-december-interest-rate-cut.html  https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1869627735267840135 

00:02:45 Market https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-meeting-live-updates-traders-await-december-interest-rate-cut.html  https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1869627735267840135 

00:09:10 Where Are We In This Cycle https://www.grayscale.com/research/reports/the-state-of-the-crypto-cycle 

00:12:04 ETF Flows https://farside.co.uk/?p=1518  https://farside.co.uk/btc 

00:16:09 Mover Of The Week… Fartcoin? https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/fartcoin  https://www.infinitebackrooms.com/dreams/conversation-1721540624-scenario-terminal-of-truths-txt 

00:26:48 Developers, Developers, Developers https://www.developerreport.com/developer-report  https://x.com/MariaShen/status/1867295574242078980  https://x.com/MariaShen/status/1851702783319126277  https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1867324885732671778 

00:34:54 Kraken Ink Chain Live https://x.com/inkonchain/status/1869417386761470219  http://inkonchain.com/dashboard 

00:38:34 Deutsche Bank Announces zk L2 https://thedefiant.io/news/tradfi-and-fintech/deutsche-bank-s-1-5-trillion-project-dama-2-develops-ethereum-l2-zksync-38f6221f 

00:41:32 Caroline Crenshaw Vote https://x.com/BrendanPedersen/status/1869055922238279940  https://x.com/standwithcrypto/status/1869151080300548383  https://www.citizen.org/article/support-comm-crenshaw/  https://financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=409421  https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/1867301980890165398 

00:47:14 Aave vs Polygon https://governance.aave.com/t/arfc-adjust-risk-parameters-for-aave-v2-and-v3-on-polygon/20211  https://x.com/DefiIgnas/status/1868612366822461817  https://x.com/sandeepnailwal/status/1869153510756909475  https://x.com/stanikulechov/status/1869182600008679563 

00:54:06 Pudgy Penguins Launched Their PENGU Token https://x.com/LucaNetz/status/1869005071624904959  https://x.com/suji_yan/status/1868682237488894422 https://claim.pudgypenguins.com/  https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/pudgy-penguins-pengu https://nftpricefloor.com/ 

00:58:15 Ethena Launched Its New Stablecoin https://x.com/ethena_labs/status/1868657723799470361  https://x.com/ZeMariaMacedo/status/1868673718911713602  

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Ejaaz returns to break down the latest surge in AI Agent innovation alongside Ryan this week, covering the rapid evolution at the intersection of crypto and AI.

They explore how AI agents are making onchain payments to each other, autonomously ordering real-world goods, and even running their own Ethereum validators. They also dive into the new frameworks and partnerships—like ai16z’s collaboration with Stanford and Virtuals’ explosive growth—propelling these agents into cultural, economic, and infrastructural prominence.

Will autonomous AI agents fundamentally reshape crypto market dynamics, creating new paradigms for value and coordination that spark unprecedented growth?

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0:00 Intro 2:04 AI Agent Bull Case  https://x.com/ai16zdao/status/1868105247056683129   5:46 Chris Dixon’s Read, Write, Own (Automate?)  9:20 AI Ordering Pizza https://x.com/ropirito/status/1867013533243769100  12:23 AI Ordering Toilet Paper https://x.com/AgentTankLive/status/1868704493157884289  16:16 Agent to Agent Commerce  https://x.com/ethermage/status/1868687530742460750  23:05 Bankless $500 Agent Tip https://x.com/simulacrumai/status/1867230651075768533  26:13 Virtuals Growth https://imgur.com/a/2Y79V3P    https://x.com/ethermage/status/1867616462019678708  https://x.com/virtuals_io/status/1868648756591391115  https://x.com/s4mmyeth/status/1868397655497613561   35:49 AI16z’s Eliza Labs Stanford Partnership & v2 Details  https://x.com/shawmakesmagic/status/1867721347406999917  https://x.com/ai16zdao/status/1868689379344195680  45:35 Arc   https://x.com/dv_memetics/status/1866670277440020570  https://x.com/0thtachi/status/1867337171595911473  https://x.com/arcdotfun/status/1867206440206696520  https://x.com/shawmakesmagic/status/1867799462787293244  https://x.com/0xcygaar/status/1868072783089127516  49:40 Zerebro Runs an Ethereum Validator  https://x.com/tintsion/status/1867293794112344080  https://open.spotify.com/track/6G3XpKtoIoS7WpiuzeMBau?si=cd62150670cc4dfb    57:17 Top Emerging Trends https://x.com/ropirito/status/1867282256672567517   https://x.com/aimonicabrands/status/1867281243265806732   https://x.com/Defi0xJeff/status/1867976166201774265   1:07:15 Lightning Round of Cool Shit This Week  https://x.com/cookiedotfun/status/1867268954831695909   https://x.com/getmasafi/status/1867379305334153702  1:11:17 Homework to Learn More About AI Agents   https://www.bankless.com/ai-agents   https://x.com/yb_effect   https://x.com/S4mmyEth   https://www.amazon.com/Accelerando-Singularity-Charles-Stross/dp/0441014151   1:14:22 Closing & Disclaimers 

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