When you read Be Fearless you will see it is clear that Jean Case knows a thing or two about being fearless, making big bets, being bold, and taking risks.

Whether it is in her role as the first female Chairman of the National Geographic Society in its 131-year history of global exploration, as CEO of the Case Foundation, which invests in people and ideas that can change the world, or her extensive career in the private sector, including her leadership role at America Online, Inc. where she was a senior executive directing the marketing and branding as AOL brought the internet to the masses, fearlessness has always been a core tenet of Jean’s work.

In this XL episode, these badass women talk about everything from Jean's book, her own fears & failures, the importance of diverse teams & perspectives for innovation, and the myth of the coastal elite.