Be It Till You See It

Join Lesley Logan as she celebrates personal and community wins in this uplifting episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. From launching new flashcards to manifesting dreams, Lesley shares her journey and the triumphs of her community members. Embrace the power of positivity and learn how to acknowledge and celebrate your own achievements.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• How Brigid successfully prepared for her launch by focusing on essential tasks.
• Natalia's journey of maintaining a regular self-practice routine while enjoying the process of writing her book.
• Lesley's significant achievement with the presale of her fifth deck of Pilates flashcards.
• How Lesley and her team rebranded and enhanced the mat deck cards. 
• Securing the pilatesflashcards.com domain for Lesley and Brad's business.

Episode References/Links:

• OPC Flashcards and Mat Deck

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Fuck yeah. 

Get ready for some wins. 

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Happy Fuck Yeah Friday, babe. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast. Thank you so much for being here. If you are here, this is your first time, this is a short quickie. This is where we celebrate people's wins so we can actually tell ourselves like there are wins happening everywhere. And if you are having a day, you're having a week, I feel you. Like life is life in. And it's not always fun. It's not always exciting. And so yeah, let's, let's just remember, it's important to take care of you. But it's also important to notice what is going well in your life at the same time as all the issues that's happening right? So we share a few wins of yours you sent in. I share a win of mine and then we leave this with an affirmation. We kick this off and you are off and ready on your day. Don't you like a short little quickie worth of episode? I think so. 

So here we go. First up is Brigid Pearse. She is one of our Agency members for so many moons, many, many years. This week's wins, staying focused on preparing for my launch. Parking other ideas that are calling to me so I can do the scary thing I need to do. I made an invite for my launch with booking link and I sent it out to a few peeps and they have made their first booking. I also visited my favorite florist and she agreed to donate a bouquet for my open day and she put my poster and took flyers to put in her shop. Still strong with my daily practice. I went surfing and I'm getting better. Feeling excited about teaching at home again. Congratulations, Brigid, like this is huge. This is amazing. This is a big deal. It's hard to do scary things. Sometimes the reason we have all these other ideas that are calling to us are so that we can procrastinate on the thing that scares us. And I love that you already have people who are signed up for your thing. I'm so excited for your homes to be back up and running after this big move that you've done. So way to go.

Okay, Natalia has a win for this week as well to share. So here we go. Natalia, she's also an Agency member for several years and her win is, my win for this week, regularly self-practice and doing this kind of workout that feels good to my body and that I need right now. Having a lot of fun while writing my book. When doing manifestation some years ago and doing a vision board I wrote writing next to being a Pilates teacher. So thankful that this dream is coming true. Enjoying spring here and spending great time outdoor with Peppa my dog. The TV station I was on twice asked me to come for the third time and this time I can't because I'm abroad, but I'm feeling good about it because I trust they will ask me again, which they clearly said. My new in-person courses started and they are fully booked. What makes me even more happy is the great community I'm building here. I've been living here for two years, my studio exists for not even a year and a half. And I'm still learning so much about the people here. And still there are so many people who don't know I exist. We're a really small town, not even 8000 people and it's not from this week, but I finally get to post it. I quit my office job. And even though I do need clients, I trust and feel this is a good decision from September on I will be a full-time teacher. Holy moly, Natalia. That is a lot of wins for one week, girl, that is so many. I just want to highlight a few things on these wins here. One, she has personal wins. She has business wins. And she's got some scary things that she's doing right now but also trusting in what she is doing. And she was able to realize that many, many years ago, she wrote down she wanted to be a writer and a Pilates instructor and now she's doing both. So yes, if you've been listening to FYFs for a while we have another author coming out outside of agency and it's because well, our people are amazing. And if you are amazing and you want to be writing a book, one of the things that we have is a great community of people who write books in our group. So you are absolutely welcome to come and do that. 

All right, my win. So I love doing this by the way because it forces me to sit down and celebrate what is happening what is working because oh my God, there's a lot of things that are not working and I could focus on those all day but what is working? The fifth deck is ready to go. Okay, it is the presale. I'm recording this a little early because it's a win. But by the time it comes out it might be happening so our presale for our waitlist is, for the barrel flashcards, might actually be happening as we speak but the fact that like this deck is ready to be in people's hot hands and at the printers hands first, is the biggest deal. I mean, I cannot believe we're on this fifth deck so, so, so, so proud of the work that we have done to put this together. We're now recording the 100th YouTube video. So more wins to come when it comes to this deck, but we're moving right along. And another win is this. While doing it, we had to also rework the mat decks. My team and I have been rebranding the mat deck, I edited the entire deck, we added some more cards, we had a new workout card. So if you want to have the mat deck, this new deck is going to be amazing. And it's going to be a great addition to what you already have. My win is I really didn't feel like I had the time to take on the mat deck while wrapping up the barrels deck. And the fact that I was able to take that on and make that happen is a mat without losing out on time for myself to work out or losing out on sleep is so, so important to me. It's a huge win. I think we can hear of a new thing we have to do, like I don't have the time, right? And one of the things I practice is like okay, what if I did have the time, like how can I get this done, and I broke them into small pieces. And we got it there. And I'm just so grateful for all of you, as well, because if you didn't love these cards, I wouldn't work so hard on them. But also, I'm just like really grateful for the team that I have really helped set me up so that I could take this on to make sure that this new print of the mat deck, because we sold 3000 decks we have to reprint it, is bigger and better and everything and more that I wanted. So those are my wins that have to do with flashcards all day. And so I'm gonna add one more win is that we never have had pilatesflashcards.com it didn't exist when I started the flashcards and I was like who the hell has this URL and there's no flashcards out there. But Brad and I will find someone who had the URL and would sell it to us and it's officially ours. Now don't go to pilatesflashcards.com because it doesn't have anything yet. But I own that domain. And you know, you guys, a win can be owning a URL. You could have bought a URL and that could be your win today. And I promise you if you celebrate it, you're gonna feel like the badass person that you are. So thank you so much for letting me celebrate those wins with you and the wins that you sent me in. So feel free to send your wins in so I can share them out. And that way you can re-celebrate the win that you had. Sometimes you'd be reminded that you did something pretty badass, right? We all need it. 

So, all right, your affirmation before I let you go. I do not pretend to be anyone or anything other than who I am. I do not pretend to be anything or anyone other than who I am. Feel that in your body, folks. I do not pretend to be anyone or anything other than who I am. Repeat that as many times as you want, put it in a Post-It where you can read it over and over again. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 

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Brad Crowell 8:19  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 8:24  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 8:29  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 8:36  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 8:39  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Transcribed by https://otter.ai

In this revealing episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell delve into the profound insights of Tracy O'Malley, a renowned performance coach and Enneagram expert. Tracy’s unique application of the Enneagram in personal growth and professional environments opens up transformative perspectives on understanding and enhancing human behavior. Tune in to discover how the Enneagram can revolutionize self-awareness and interpersonal relationships, and learn which test can help you uncover your true Enneagram number.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• How Lesley discovered her true Enneagram number through Tracy’s. 
• Power of Enneagram to foster deeper communication and understanding.
• Importance of acknowledging behaviors before planning future actions.
• The sectioned journaling approach for understanding weakness and strengths. 

Episode References/Links:

• OPC Summer Camp
• OPC Summer Tour Waitlist
• eLevate Mentorship Program
• Tracy O’Malley Website
• Enneagram Type Blueprint (Use code BEIT to receive a 5% discount)

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

If you were two-seven-eight you are caring, innovative and protective. You want to be helpful, loving, and straightforward. You are assertive, funny, and outgoing. You like to use your charming and sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive, and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. I mean, does that not sound exactly like me?

Lesley Logan 0:22  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:04  

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the empathetic convo I had with Tracy O'Malley in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one make sure you go back and listen to that one and then come back and listen to this one or you can listen to this one because I got some really great stuff. I have permission to talk about me and what I learned and you can go listen to Tracy to figure out why I trusted her to talk about me.

Brad Crowell 1:27  

I would just say don't skip it. 

Lesley Logan 1:29  

Don't skip it. 

Brad Crowell 1:30  

The interview was really awesome. She's definitely a strong personality but she has amazing things to say.

Lesley Logan 1:38  

She's an eight. And also, even if you think you know the Enneagram, I'm just going to tell you right now, she knows the Enneagram. And I did a little binge on her podcast on our flight home from Nashville. I think I listened to eight episodes. And I still, I don't even think I understand like the E of the Enneagram at all. So she is just such a wealth of knowledge and you are going to if you like the Enneagram if you really like learning about yourself, you can actually learn about it. It's even better when you actually trust the Enneagram and use the Enneagram for others. That's her biggest thing. So I also just want to point out if you're watching this on YouTube, Brad made a funny facial expression when I said the word empathetic. I think he was impressed that I didn't screw up the cadence of that sentence. I'm just going to call it out for the people at home who are not watching. So today is May 23rd 2024 and it is World Turtle and Tortoise Day. About this day, turtles and tortoises are common sightings in parable stories and pop culture and we celebrate World Turtle Day on May 23rd to honor these resilient animals. Turtles and tortoises are associated with wisdom and perseverance. They are reptiles that are found in many environments all around the world, including Las Vegas, I'll tell you about that. These creatures play an important role in their respective ecosystems. They dig holes that are inhabited by other creatures and keep our breaches or

Brad Crowell 2:55  

Keep those breaches clean.

Lesley Logan 2:56  

They keep our beaches clean by feeding on dead fish that wash up on the shores. They maintain an ecological balance and therefore it's important to conserve these gentle animals. Our neighborhood has several tortoises and one of our neighbors has three and they've had them for 30 years. And like when they got them they were like the size of like a quarter or something like that. And they're huge. And when our dogs are on a walk on the occasion that they spot them it is, our dogs are like what is that creature? What is happening? Our neighbors just let their tortoise like walk around their

Brad Crowell 3:28  

They have a fence in their front yard and they let it walk around in the front yard. 

Lesley Logan 3:33  

Yes. And then occasionally, especially during the pandemic, it was really fun in my Facebook group like there's a tortoise in my backyard is this anyone's? And like check so and so they tag so, nope, not mine. 

Brad Crowell 3:43  

Is this the O'Malley's? 

Lesley Logan 3:45  

Oh, it's like so, it's so funny. Nope, nope, got my, well now it's on. I mean, this turtle like or tortoise moved quickly like it got from backyard to backyard. So at any rate, go celebrate a tortoise or turtle today. All right, we are getting super close, super close to the OPC summer camp. It is June first and second. It is not too late to buy tickets. So you want to get your tickets and join us live. But if you can't join us live you can join, you can get the replay for life. It is really cool. 

Brad Crowell 4:14  

Earlybird is literally closing in like two days. 

Lesley Logan 4:16  

Two days. So if you are listening to this three days after first of all, you should listen to it when it comes up. Just saying. I'm just gonna call you out right now.

Brad Crowell 4:23  

Go to opc.me/events that's plural, opc.me/events and pick up your summer camp tickets. To be quite honest, the day pass is where it's at. You're gonna save up to 56%. We have a day pass for each day. So pick up both.

Lesley Logan 4:40  

We have incredible like we have Katie Donnelly, who's doing a pre/postnatal workshop. So if you are a Pilates lover who's going to get pregnant or wants to get pregnant, it's a great one. If you're a Pilates teacher who teaches anyone who does, who's going to get pregnant like it's a really great informative course on how the Pilates practice can be supportive for the pre/postnatal and specifically birthing and then we also have a pelvic floor mat class. And that is so cool. I'm so excited to have Erin Donohue doing that. We have a breast cancer mat class. We have a Tower of Power Happy Hour with Lisa. 

Brad Crowell 5:12  

We have one for hypermobility. 

Lesley Logan 5:13  

We (inaudible) we're going to nerd out on The Long Stretch with Rachel. We're doing Happy Hips with Yasmine. I just have to say Brad, you probably missed it. But like Heather's promotion, Heather Ingram who's doing the breast cancer and powermat, she was like, "Got hips? Take this class. Got knees? Take this workshop." I died laughing. Anyways, you guys there's something for everyone. And yours truly is teaching a ladder barrel workout. Yep, you can do 50-minute workout on the ladder barrel. Want to find out how? Because I'm doing it. Join me. So that's opc.me/events plural. And then we are actually, probably when this comes out have already probably announced the actual stops for the Summer Tour. I'm gonna be honest, we are already pretty much locked in for Summer Tour, but it's around the corner. And so if you want to make sure you hear about our summer tour, there is a waitlist that we send out to but Brad knows that link and I don't. At any rate, we are going to do the Midwest. So and

Brad Crowell 6:08  

It's actually, opc.me/event, singular. Events, plural takes you to the summer camp page. Event, singular, takes you to the waitlist. 

Lesley Logan 6:08  

May I just suggest like opc.me/tour. 

Brad Crowell 6:22  

Yeah, we're gonna do that. 

Lesley Logan 6:23  

Yeah, we should just change that right now. That doesn't make any sense. At any rate. We're going to the Midwest, and I heard some people say, Oh, I don't know, the summer in Milwaukee people go to the shore, guess what, I'm coming to Milwaukee in the summer. I'm not coming in the winter, you can guess why. So you know, plan accordingly. And then lastly, we are about to open up the applications for eLevate, my mentorship program. I can only take 12 people in that group. And if you want to be one of those 12 then you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. I think that's ew for the waitlist.

Brad Crowell 6:58  

Oh, E-W for the waitlist, you're right. 

Lesley Logan 7:00  

But you can go to eLevate as well. You can read up on it. But E-W is the waitlist and the people on the waitlist are the ones who get the information on how to apply. So you know, do that. Okay, before we get into Tracy's epicness What is today's audience question?

Brad Crowell 7:13  

All right, we got elkicam90 on Instagram says hey, how to learn cueing skills. So she's clearly talking about Pilates teaching y'all.

Lesley Logan 7:25  

Yes. So if you're a Pilates teacher, this is for you. There's this like app like I don't know, there's obsession with the word cueing? Like, what's the cue for that? How do you best cue for that? How do you best do this? And I just want to actually say to you, very few percentage of the population are auditory learners. So doesn't matter how amazing your cue is. They can hear it, they can understand the words coming out of your mouth, but applying it into their body is going to be challenging. And so what I actually teach in eLevate is not cueing skills, but seeing-with-your-eyes skills, so that you can see what's going on in a body, you can ask them to do something for you. And so Joseph Pilates would actually not cue you, that wasn't I think he did, he would tell you what to do, I would call it a direction, he would give you a direction of what to do, right? And so he would tell you what to do, he would never tell you what not to do. That's not a cue, either. He would tell you what to do. And so if you can't do it, if I were to say, like, you know, reach your arms on your back, I don't know, that's what we're talking about, let's just say I would say that, your shoulders and your ears, and I would ask you to put your shoulders on your back. If you didn't do it. If you didn't hear me, I don't need to repeat myself. I can even use my hands to put my hands on your back to tell you what I want. That's gonna be a good for a kinesthetic learner. If you can't do that, it's not a cue you need. It's an exercise you need to correct what is missing from your body. And so that's really important to me, because I think a lot of teachers are literally going crazy bananas, trying to figure all these cues. People are really buying cues from people, like here's all my cues for the long stretch shares, and they're selling them. You know, I'm all about making money. So do it. You do you if you want to sell them, but for those you who would be buying them, let me just tell you, zip your lips, use your eyes, and ask yourself what do they need? And whatever they need is the exercise you're going to give them and they're going to think you're a fucking genius.

Brad Crowell 9:22  

I mean, have you ever asked someone you pointed out somebody's muscle and said, turn this on? Right? And they, they can't, right? That's often what cueing is like, because they don't know how to connect to it. Yeah, so like (inaudible) teacher. They're like, hey, I get what you're saying. But it's still not doing it. 

Lesley Logan 9:46  

Yeah, because Brad is a client, right? Brad does Pilates as a client, he does yoga as a client. He's been to many yoga class where they're cueing. If you want to do this, you can do this. You want to do this. You can do this. And he's hearing it, can't apply it and then he's distracted, because he's trying to figure out what the hell you said. But then he moved on to something else anyways.

Brad Crowell 10:06  

Well, that's, there's that too. I mean, if the accused gets too complicated, then you're like, "What do you say?" You know and then that we've already moved through it. But I often laugh, because, you know, there were moments where I turned to my teacher, after like years of being in the practice, and I was like, "Dude, how come you've never said that before? And he's like, I say it every week. What are you talking about? It was the first time that I was able to turn on the thing, or connect the dots in my own body, feel it, and then associate that feeling with what he was saying. Right? So it was the first time that I actually heard him saying it because I actually felt it in my body. So I think that like what, you know, you can have all the cues that you want, but if they're not actually doing it, the cue is just gonna wash over them.

Lesley Logan 10:48  

And also, that isn't going to retain a client well. I'm just going to tell you right now, if they hear you, but can't do it, they're gonna feel like they're not good enough. And they're not going to come back.

Brad Crowell 10:57  

But I think what's cool about Pilates, and it's actually a lot, there are some similarities for yoga, like, like, what my teacher would do is put me over a block, and then help me or maybe we were using a chair, or maybe we're using the wall or some kind of a thing. In Pilates, it's so cool. Because if they can't figure it out on the mat, or they can't figure it on the reformer, guess what you can do? You could take them over to the chair, or the Cadillac or the thing, but how do you know what to take them to? For which thing they need to turn on? You should do eLevate. That's a big help.

Lesley Logan 11:31  

(Inaudible) Well, Brad, I'm so impressed your understanding of what they should do. Yeah. So anyways, elkicam90, this is, I hope this helps you understand. I hope this frees you from having to come up with a really incredible way of saying put your feet in a strap. Like the thing about SNL that pissed me the fuck off. Like I, every single person in our life has sent me the SNL clip. Some people just sent to me yesterday. And I'm like, you know, I already have seen it 17 times. I actually didn't think it was funny. I was horrified by it. Because once SNL comes like, thinks something is funny enough to share with the general public, it means the general public has enough knowledge that they can laugh at this. And 

Brad Crowell 12:18  

That means they probably experienced like, SNL takes the thing and they exaggerate it to the extreme and make it ridiculous. But there's a route to it that people can still connect. Yeah. And so yeah, they're, they're actually like, that means that people have this pretty sad misconception of Pilates out there. 

Lesley Logan 12:39  

Yeah. And that it's like put your hands down, straps on your feet, straps into the thing and that I believe Pilates is for everybody. And the only way we're going to have everyone feel like Pilates is accessible for them is that we actually have to teach the body that's in front of us with what they're capable of doing. So ditch the cues, look at their body, tell them what to do. End of rant. Next day.

Brad Crowell 13:03  

Stick around. All right, now let's talk about Tracy O'Malley. Tracy O'Malley is a master performance coach, coach highly sought after by Fortune 500 companies, she expertly integrates the Enneagram into various aspects of life, leveraging her deep insights into human behavior to help individuals and teams enhance their relationships and decision-making skills. Her approach not only promotes a harmonious environment at work and home, but also empowers her clients to overcome the beliefs that restrict their growth. I love that summary of what Tracy does. And I was really touched by her personal story about how she began to apply the Enneagram in her relationships, and how it really helped her shift the way she thought about herself, too. I thought it was really awesome.

Lesley Logan 13:56  

I know it shifted how she's parenting her children. It shifted how she, how she led teams that she helped make people make tons of money based on like, what their Enneagram style is, right? And that's so cool. Because again, that's going back to the cueing, right? Like how she's directing a team. She can't go, "This is your script." Everyone uses script. Which is generally what, like some network marketing things could do. Right? Like, they're like, hey, hon, and then they like have a script. 

Brad Crowell 14:24  

Or a teacher training program. 

Lesley Logan 14:26  

Yeah. Yeah.

Brad Crowell 14:27  

You know, like in Pilates like it's, and the way I see it is it's a, it's a fantastic place to start, but then you have to adjust it and make it yours.

Lesley Logan 14:37  

And so but instead of you having to adjust it, she used it as a leader to help you adjust it to you and I so I could go on and on about like the things that I loved that she said like every day is a new day for clean slate and there's some really great stuff in there. I'm gonna actually just like tell you what I learned by working with Tracy because I actually think that that's a better use of my time in this recap.

Brad Crowell 14:58  

Explain that a little bit more. So you, after your interview, what happened? 

Lesley Logan 15:01  

Okay, so after the interview, like when we stopped hitting record, we were talking about I said, yeah, I know I'm a seven like with an eight wing. And she said, I don't think so. And you have to understand Tracy and I have already done a couple of calls and some emails back and forth. Just calls like she, she, Jake Helfer was the person who suggested she should be on the show, email back and forth, and we got on a call, it was supposed to be 15 minutes, it took 45 minutes. So like, we did have like, a conversation so where she, (inaudible) whereas she's so clearly good at this, she could like evaluate a lot of the ways that I was expressing things and, and telling her like how we work and all this stuff. Anyways, then we did the interview. And she said, I see the seven and eight, but I don't think that that's your primary number. 

Brad Crowell 15:46  

Interesting. 

Lesley Logan 15:46  

So I actually did her blueprint, which we have the link for you to use in the show notes. If you want to click our link, and then you'll want to use Be It in the coupon code area. So you can get a discount on her blueprint. 

Brad Crowell 15:59  

Yeah, so click a link in the show notes to let her know that we sent you, and then use the coupon during checkout to actually apply the discount. What this, it explains what a seven means. And an eight means.

Lesley Logan 16:09  

Yes, but also, I'm not. 

Brad Crowell 16:11  

Well, that's not my point. My point is if you're listening to this, and you're like, what the fuck are they talking about? A seven or an eight on, the Enneagram is like an evaluation tool that allows you to.

Lesley Logan 16:22  

She sent me a 76-page evaluation. So let me tell you like you. And it explains a lot of other numbers. I got to read stuff about you. And I got to share stuff about you when I was on it, but also explains things about me and different things. And I literally emailed her, I was like, I don't like this sentence.

Brad Crowell 16:41  

I don't like the 37th line on page 83. 

Lesley Logan 16:46  

No, like a two would do. I'm like, I don't like this. I don't like this. But here's the thing I did, I do have seven, eight in me. So but two is my primary number. 

Brad Crowell 16:58  

Interesting. 

Lesley Logan 16:58  

So here is the thing. So she, I'm a self-preservation two. So an SP2 is how that would be put. If you're listening to our podcast, you'll hear like SP I'm sure there's other stuff. I don't know enough about that yet. But I am a self-preservation two and it presents a little different than some of the stereotype stuff of two's. So I'm a little bit more covert in my over-giving and over-involving. But if I get to a breaking point, then I get a little spicier than the average two. So like that's where like I can have that eight, that Tracy spice that you guys all got to experience. And then there's a couple other things but she said my tri type, which I'd never even heard of a tritype, but this is where that seven and eight comes from. It's just like your tritype is the 278 otherwise known as the free spirit, which apparently some of our best friends are the same tritypes. Of course, we're attracted to each other. But here's what she wrote. I mean, like you guys, 76 pages and then this information. Innovative and direct two, this is the most independent, assertive and outgoing two. This two needs freedom and can appear to be a seven or eight needs to be on the go and to do for others. Eight-ish two especially if self-preserving like a jam, self-preserving, which you are, if you are 2-7-8, you are caring, innovative and protective. You want to be helpful, loving and straightforward. You are assertive, funny and outgoing. You like to use your charming and sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. I mean, like does that not sound exactly like me? Exactly like me. So anyways, and then like, there was some other stuff, which is like when I get overwhelmed, I get spicy. You have experienced, my schedule gets out of whack. I'm like, oh, I like, I like in rage. But I also get pissed off at people when they take advantage of my people. And I'm like, Mother Bear. I got a little mad on the drive home yesterday. I was like you email that person right now and you tell them I think they're taking advantage of my people. So anyways, she. 

Brad Crowell 19:03  

That happened, you all.

Lesley Logan 19:05  

Yeah, so she also emailed me some episodes, I can listen to her on her podcast. 

Brad Crowell 19:10  

Oh, cool. 

Lesley Logan 19:11  

Because she's an amazing podcast. If you do know your number, and you're pretty sure I'd say you can actually go in and learn. But if you also know the numbers of people in your family, you can go listen to our podcasts and learn more about them. Or you can work with Tracy and she'll tell you how to parent or work with your partner. Based on that, she was talking about I think it was on a podcast or either outside the podcast. I can't remember at this point. But we're talking about her partner has a different number than her. And based on her knowing his style, she's able to not take things personally. It's just great. I just loved it anyways, you can talk about what you liked.

Brad Crowell 19:40  

I love it. All right. Well, she said the Enneagram is also a language because when we understand each other, well you understand everything and I was kind of already hinting at this after I did the intro, but I loved listening to her tell her rebel, like, don't-put-me-in-a-box mentality when she first was introduced to the Enneagram, when she submitted herself to rehab, which is pretty extreme. Right? And she, when she was sitting there with this person. And she said, I find her, she's clearly very analytical. The reason I say that is because she tests people, she tested her, shrinks when she was going through them, right, she would show them one side of her and not another, and then basically see if they figured it out. She started pushing back on this person when she went into rehab. And the person in rehab basically called her out in a very kind way, and said, the way you've been thinking and the way you've been doing it, brought you here, so let's make a change. Right? And when she dove headfirst into this, what I thought was really amazing was her willingness to embrace it, because she was in rehab for only 30 days, y'all. And that changed her life. Right? That's kind of amazing that you could go into a place. And in that time, learn a tool, a language that would allow her to come out, not only being self-reflective, but being understanding enough to use that information when engaging with others. So that was really impressive to me. But the way that she uses a language was, she came home. And she realized that basically, her children, she was definitely trying to educate them, guide them, teach them, parent them in the way that she is only the way that she is and it was her way or the highway. And when she came with, you know, back with this, equipped with this tool, the Enneagram tool, it gave her this different perspective of what would connect best with my child, if I can understand how they can think then I can understand what to say, or put in front of them, that is going to empower them to do the thing that I'm trying to teach them to do. And so she made this dramatic shift. And that's how the Enneagram became a language for her. I think that's amazing. She said, when we understand each other, we build credibility and trust. And we build a culture that is bulletproof. And obviously in that case, she's talking about executives leading a team. But what in that same vein, she also, lead by example, right? Because she started a network marketing, she started in network marketing, she built a team of over 100,000 people, seven of those people or six of those people are making over seven figures, right? And she said, they're all different Enneagram types. So if she just went in like a power, you know, move and said, This is the only way to do it right, then probably none of like, maybe one of those people would have been able to pull it off to connect with her in the way that she was laying down. This is how it has to be. But that's not how she leads, she led in a way that allowed her to understand what would empower that person, because she could understand the language that they are speaking. And then consequently, she was able to build this powerhouse team. So she passes that off now to, you know, businesses and people who run teams, which is I just think it's so cool. I love that. I love the fact that you could understand something so well that you can effectively, you know, put yourself in the shoes of someone else. There's a lot of empathy in that.

Lesley Logan 23:31  

Yeah, I think it's really cool. And we love the string finders and things like that. And we've done a lot of research on that. But as we discussed in the last Enneagram episode, like Strength Finders is like what you do. And like Enneagram is kind of like why you do it that way. Why that's it is. And I think the why just like in life, like why you do anything is more important than what you do. The what can change, or the how can change. So I think this is really fascinating. I don't really, I like kind of want this to be a hobby. Maybe this is a hobby, you know, I'm hobby hunting guys. So we'll see I'm gonna I'm gonna binge down on the episodes Tracy sent me about me, of course, and then maybe I'll figure out you.

Brad Crowell 24:11  

Alright, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tracy O'Malley? She said most of us go to awareness. Like how do we fix this? How do I make this thing stop. And she's talking about behaviors, right? And we go from awareness to action, but we skipped the most important step right? So I was trying to think of an example and nothing was coming to me right there, y'all. So sorry about that. But the idea is this, we come in with this idea of what we need to fix. So then we go we learn about the thing that we need to fix, right? And then we just try to go fix it. And what she's saying is that we're missing the most important step, which is acknowledgment. And I thought this was really powerful. She said this is, the acknowledgement phase is where we connect the dots. And the Enneagram can help them connect those dots faster. But we need to be able to reverse engineer how we got here. And the behaviors that we have to work out, right? And she was talking about her 50 years. And when she first started looking at this was 10 years ago, so 40 years of her, you know, in herself, like doing it the way that she was doing it, before she decided that there was some kind of change that need to happen. But instead of just going and implementing that change, she was reflective. And that, I think, is that acknowledgement. So when you find the answer, it's great to go and execute that answer. And we're all about taking messy action. And we definitely agree with that. But what Tracy is arguing here is, how did you get to where you are, now that you understand what you need to go do? Acknowledge that you are where you are today? And there is some reflection, that will be beneficial. 

Lesley Logan 25:58  

Yeah, yeah. So okay, you know, do you guys plan on this, but we actually tell people about their Be It Action Items, like what they can suggest and what they can't suggest. And we actually say, like, if you're going to tell them to journal, you have to tell them what to journal. And Tracy went above and beyond on that. So here's what you're gonna do. I know my Be It listeners, you guys all have a bunch of journals that you bought, because they're pretty and they're sitting there, and you've written nothing in them. So you're going to take one of them. And she wants you to divide it in three sections based on age. So like, you can literally, don't do three pages, like literally put a bookmark or somehow identify three sections. And she wants the first section to be age zero to seven. The second section is age eight to 13. And the third section is 14 and up. And then she says like, go on a five-minute technology free walk every day as time for you to develop an inner dialogue, internal dialogue with your inner child. And so then when you come back from your walk, you can actually start to unpack your timeline. And so as you have memories, from having an internal dialogue, you can go put them in the sections, and kind of get them on paper. And she says this will help you acknowledge and understand different patterns, and transform potential weaknesses and strengths. And she emphasized that the inner work is never truly done and should be an ongoing effort. So I thought that was a really unique way to think about journaling. And to, like, get those thoughts to just like stick around in our heads swirling around and like kind of get them somewhere where you can actually like see them and start to see and recognize the behaviors that are coming up through your life and how they keep coming up. And, and so that's the only way to do the inner work. You know, like, I love when I hear people. I'm like, I'm like the hills or whatever some sort of pie has, like I've done my inner work. I've worked on my inner child, and I'm good now it's like, ah, red flag. You're not done. All right, who is going to go do their Enneagram blueprint? I want to know.

Brad Crowell 28:01  

Raise your hand. 

Lesley Logan 28:02  

Raise your hand. 

Brad Crowell 28:02  

No, tell it the pod. DM us. DM us. Leave a comment on YouTube.

Lesley Logan 28:08  

Yeah, tell us what you came up with. And like I just, it was it's super thorough. And I really found this to be really fascinating because not just about me, it's about how I can work with the team. So now I like want to know everybody who I've dealt with on the team's information. So I can like, you know, understand how to motivate them better and how to get them to do the thing that they want to do better. Anyways, that might take me a couple, it might take me years because obviously it's a lot of information. But until then, I'm Lesley Logan.

Brad Crowell 28:32  

And I'm Brad Crowell. 

Lesley Logan 28:33  

Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Go check out Tracy O'Malley's podcast check out her Enneagram. Use the Be It Pod. 

Brad Crowell 28:42  

Or click the link below in the pod notes and then use Be It Pod during checkout. 

Lesley Logan 28:47  

Yeah. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 28:50  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 28:51  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 

Lesley Logan 29:19  

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Brad Crowell 29:34  

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Brad Crowell 29:43  

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Lesley Logan 29:50  

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Brad Crowell 29:54  

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Step into the life of Tracy O’Malley, a renowned coach and speaker, as she recounts her transformative journey with the Enneagram to break generational cycles of trauma. From her initial skepticism during rehab to becoming a leading voice in the Enneagram community, Tracy explores how this path not only reshaped her career but also clarity to her interactions with her children. Discover her motivations and her passion for teaching the Enneagram to assist others in gaining self-awareness and personal growth. Tune in to learn how the Enneagram can be a powerful tool for understanding and change.

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• The Enneagram personality typing system and its benefits.
• The Enneagram's impact on her relationships with her children.
• Her motivation and passion for teaching the Enneagram worldwide.
• Tracy’s authenticity and growth as a confident speaker on stage.

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Tracy O'Malley is a highly sought after Master Performance Coach for companies like Google, Amazon + John Deere, a Top Enneagram Expert, Multi-Millionaire Entrepreneur and a Mom to two incredible Millennials. She has helped millions all over the globe; individuals, couples, families, leadership teams, fortune 100 Executives and CEOs step into the leaders they were always designed to be and create an effective and beautiful culture not only in their Professional Teams, but also their Home Teams. She teaches both professionals and individuals how to integrate the Enneagram in every area of life, guiding people to think and perform differently, uncover and change habits that no longer serve them, plus shift their relationship with money and intimacy by identifying where they are blocked and rewire those limiting beliefs.

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Episode Transcript:

Tracy O'Malley 0:00  

I mean, Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, John Deere have all brought me in to teach them this language because when we understand each other, we understand everything. And when we understand each other, we build credibility and trust, and we build a culture that's bulletproof. And that wins. So I was like, who knew that the girl who showed up in rehab and told her therapist to fuck off when she said, I want you to do the Enneagram, is now teaching it to millions of people all over the world.

Lesley Logan 0:29  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:11  

All right, Be It babe, just get ready. Get ready, I had so much I wanted to say I don't want to end this interview. And then also, I want to make sure I have time to talk with her after the interview before my next one. Because she is just a force in the all the best ways. She is fierce and lovely and empathetic. And frickin just wants you to win. And I love this podcast for a few reasons. One, I get to support you on your journey, and your life and being it till you see it. And recognizing you're so freakin awesome. And two, I get to meet epic, epic people. Mostly epic women who I, I would be like touched to just to like get to hug them in real life some day. So Tracy O'Malley, she's so amazing. This episode takes you on a journey of her life, and also how she was able to utilize what was going on in her life to not just benefit those around her. But now to benefit so many others. And what she's doing today to help others is nothing sort of amazing and truly going to change your life and those around you. This is just going to be so fun. I can't wait for you to listen to it. So here I'm just going to let Tracy tell who she is in just a moment. But save this one. Really listen to it. You'll pick up different things as you listen to it and the things you have in common with her, the things that's inspiring about her, the things that open the doors and also the things that she might call you out on in the best way, way that someone who can only see the true honest you can. So here she is Tracy O'Malley. 

Lesley Logan 1:11  

All right, Be It babe. I'm really excited. I was introduced to this incredible woman you're gonna hear about today, because of one of your favorites, which is Jake Kelfer and we are on a Zoom call. It's kind of like how have we not met yet we have so many friends that know each other and we know each other's friends. And so it's just gonna be a really amazing conversation. Tracy O'Malley, thank you for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?

Tracy O'Malley 3:02  

Oh my gosh, hi, I love, I loved our conversation before. And same thing, I love when I meet people who who keep saying you got to meet this person, you got to meet this person. And then we actually meet it's like, there it is. I'm Tracy O'Malley. What I'm really good at is seeing through people's soul, quite honestly. I can kind of see through a lot of the masks that we wear with such love and compassion. So that we can step into who we were always designed to be and make sense of all of this crap that you know life has thrown at us honestly. 

Lesley Logan 3:33  

Yeah. And it's interesting talk about like masks we wear because we all kind of like people might seem call it a different hat. But really like, the different ways we show up. And what we're trying to show and what we're trying not to show. You might scare some people that you can see through. 

Tracy O'Malley 3:49  

I do. You know, it's funny, like if you meet me, and I get this because, and I never take it personal when people are like, oof, you're very activating. Because I, had I met me 15 years ago, I would have been lined up, hightailed the fuck away from me for sure. Because a lot of us come by these masks very innocently and for survival and when somebody can kind of see through the armor that can be very, very scary. So either people are really magnetized to me because wow, they feel seen. Or they're like, holy shit, I need to get away from you because they feel really seen. And depending on where you're at in your journey, that's kind of how this will play out for you.

Lesley Logan 4:32  

Yeah, I like picturing different moments I've met people similar to you. And you're and I can recall, like, if you're not ready for that. You're like, oh, I need to be a spar with that person. It's so funny because the couple of times that's happened, I've also then re-engaged with them later down the road and going how did I not let them be my best friend and it's because I wasn't ready for it yet. You know, I wasn't ready to be fully seen yet. So can we talk about 15 years ago? Like when did this journey start for you? Because if you, obviously, this a skill set you had, you didn't always know you had it. So how did this kind of come about?

Tracy O'Malley 5:05  

Well, ironically, you know what's funny about that is, is I always knew I had it. I didn't know what to do with it. And you know, as a little girl, I grew up in a pretty traumatizing home, alcoholism and Jekyll and Hyde kind of shit going on, and unpredictability and violence and, and emotional abandonment. And this little girl in me kind of trying to navigate what all of this meant. And early on, I was always seeking like, how the hell did we get here? And how the hell do I get out of here? And, you know, I always had to kind of read situations. It is one of my spiritual gifts, as well as being able to read situations and people and energies, mainly because I had to kind of gauge the situation I was growing up in, but it's also kind of one of my gifts. But like taking you back 15 years ago, is kind of when it was all coming to a head I had almost I was about 40 years old at that point. And a lot of those skill sets had served me well. I had been married and divorced at that time, through a recession, raising teenagers, and on paper, and all the receipts showed that all that those coping mechanisms worked out really well for me, you know, on paper, I was solid, knock me down, I'll get back up kicking and screaming. But I felt this internal struggle. And also I could see some of that effect on my kids. Even though you know, to the world, they were the greatest kids and they were and they are, but I could feel their restless irritability, discontentment, fear, and all of that. And, and I knew I needed new tools in the toolbox. These spiritual gifts that I had were great, but they were for survival, not necessarily to thrive. And it all came to a head when my dad was diagnosed with cancer, and was dead within 12 days, like seriously from diagnosis to death in 12 days. And yeah, he's the most impactful person in my life, the most dysfunctional person and also, the person I loved more than anyone. And for him to go from that, to that that fast. I was like, holy shit, life is really short. And, I don't necessarily know a different way. And so the people that went before me and my family, I love them dearly but, what they were teaching me, modeling for me, all of that was not going to take me where I wanted to go with my family and my lineage moving forward. So I made the decision that all these coping mechanisms, although provided survival for me, I was not going to thrive or pass it on to my next generation. So I decided to check myself into rehab. For all my coping mechanisms, not just the obvious ones that were a problem. You know, there was alcohol, there was food, there was anger, there was power, there was sex, everything but drugs basically I've used to cope.

Lesley Logan 7:57  

My big joke around my household is like, we clearly were the kids who had that "This is your brain on drugs," because like most people that are friends of mine, alcohol is a definite one and those other ones you listed, but no one's doing the drugs because we're told, so I guess it's like (inaudible).

Tracy O'Malley 8:12  

So God forbid you do a drug like, but you know, you could be drinking tequila shots off people and you know, doing some reckless shit. And I did and I came by a lot of it super innocently and I didn't want that anymore for my life. And if you don't repair it, you repeat it, or it gets repeated or both. And that was happening. And I did not want my kids to fast forward 25 years to feel like I felt and the only way that wasn't going to happen is if I went fucking first. And so I broke the mold. Like everybody in my circle, my family and my friends are like what are you doing? You're not bad. We're way worse than you. I'm like, Well, that's the fucking problem is like, I'm surrounding myself with people that don't challenge me to level up. And although, yeah, I didn't have a physical addiction to alcohol. I wasn't like an everyday drinker. But when I did, I was so unpredictable, that that creates an environment that I grew up in and I had migraines and ulcers in the second grade. I don't want that for the people that I love. And so it was in rehab. I walked in, and my therapist who's tough and she's from Texas, and I still see her to this day, you know, over 12 years later and you know, I've been through nine therapists at this point and I could manipulate anybody you know, I know how to talk, I know how to, I know how to do it. And it was the way that I did that prior in my life was to kind of test them to see if they could handle me. I didn't manipulate to manipulate like a narcissist might but I manipulated to test them to see if they really were what they said they were. And all the nine therapists before her, I could, like they ended up in a codependent bond with me. And I was like, okay, this is a little fucked up. But with her, I think I was also ready. I was like, listen, I need you to help me fix some shit. And she's like, well, your robust ego, first of all. I'm like, oh, here we go. Okay. And it was in day two, she wanted me to take the Enneagram thing, which is how the Enneagram came into play for me. And I basically said, go fuck yourself, I don't need another label. I'm walking in here with plenty. I don't need another thing to make this complicated. And she wasn't even rattled by my very colorful, intense language and intense energy. She did not even miss a beat. She's like, my dear, I get it. But your best thinking has gotten you here. And this might help you get out of the box that not only you've put yourself in, but the world has also put you in. So how about you just open up your mind a little bit? And give it a shot? Touché. 

Lesley Logan 10:54  

I love her. I love her so much.

Tracy O'Malley 10:55  

I know. Yeah, she like and that's the thing with that intensity where, when we were talking about before, where it can be very activating for people, I used to get off on that, it was like, see, I'm the strongest person in the room. Whereas now when I activate somebody, it's like, I know, it's for their greatest good if they choose to receive it that way. And she provided that for me. Like she wasn't even rattled by that. And so I trusted her. I trusted her to take me on a journey. And you know, she did quite one hell of a journey for sure. 

Lesley Logan 11:26  

So she, how did she take the Enneagram test? But you guys, we've had, we've talked about it before. It's been a while. It's been a couple of years. But for people who don't know, what is the Enneagram? And why do you think that she had you do it so early on in your journey?

Tracy O'Malley 11:39  

I hate the what is the Enneagram question because it's like, it's so stupid, but like I get it. It basically is this mappings, the way that I describe it is this beautiful navigation system that explains how you are divinely wired in your motives and your core fears that if you kind of sift through all the masks and the hats and the bullshit, at the root of who you are, there's this really distinct perspective, motive and fear in which you see the world. And why think she had me take it. And by the way, all those online assessments are wrong. The first one that I took was wrong as well. So just little asterisk there. The reason I think that she had me tackle this so early, and I'm so grateful she did and honestly, I don't even know if I'm still sober to this day without this beautiful system and framework that kind of, you know, because my robust ego can think that I can handle this and I know better and all this shit. And the Enneagram kind of is this navigation that keeps me in my lane. When I want to go off roading or fly off a cliff or go rogue kind of guides me back into who I was always divinely meant to be before life kind of life to me in the face a little bit. And so when you understand and that, you know, and I was tackling this at the age of 40, 40 years old, that's a lot of shit to unpack. And I think that's why a lot of people start the personal development journey. And then like, fuck this, I'm out. It's too hard, too much to unpack. It's too overwhelming. It's kind of like when you're spring cleaning and you start it and you're like I just opened a can of worms. I only wanted one worm to pop out. And now the whole fucking can's open. 

Lesley Logan 13:18  

Yeah, yeah, I totally understand. 

Tracy O'Malley 13:20  

Right, like, so I think when we embark on this journey, like, that's how this feels. And it's like, nope, let's just spackle this all back together and move on. And the Enneagram kind of helps you streamline and accelerate that understanding of yourself with compassion. When I understood at the core of everything that I did was a motive of being strong and powerful. That helped me reverse engineer and connect a lot more dots a lot faster, which, in turn, creates transformation. You can see movement in this growth because even in therapy, I love therapy, but it's fucking slow. It's really, really slow and I don't move slow. And so I think she also recognize that like, alright, lady, I'm here, let's make shit happen. I'm not staying more than 30 days. So you got 30 days to make something happen. And I was able to move the needle faster with this understanding, with this beautiful navigation of myself and a willingness to really use it the way that it was always intended. We're more than just a number we're more than just our type that's just kind of our home base and we go but there's all these other levers and directions we can take and detours we can take when the main road that we normally take isn't the right one to take. Right? And it provided me that very, very quickly. And then the next aha was oh shit. I have two children that have a totally different navigation system than me. And I've been trying to take them down all my roads all this time and no matter how well intended I was and how beautiful of a mom I am and it was never landing the way that would serve them best.

Lesley Logan 15:06  

That's so interesting. So like, first of all, I want to just highlight like, I love that you're saying you're more than just a number because all Enneagram people say, what's your number? And I was like, it's kind of like, what's your sign? And even like astrologist would say, okay.

Tracy O'Malley 15:17  

And I love that too. 

Lesley Logan 15:18  

Yeah. And it's like, it's not just your sign, because like, you also have a moon sign, a sun sign, we have a whole chart, a nd like, where the moon, like, everything is changing all the time. So the Enneagram makes me feel like a birth chart. And if you want, if you got astrology, guys, it's kind of like that. And there's these areas that you can tap into. And so what you're basically saying is, you are navigating their life through the way that works best for you. But because of their Enneagram and their needs, that's not going to work for them, that's not going to be their strength, it's not going to be their motivation, it's not going to be their way to tap into things. And so basically, it's like, if you're trying if you're an Aquarius guys, you're trying to make your Cancer, like, here, read your brain. That's not gonna work.

Tracy O'Malley 15:58  

Exactly. Exactly. And low key. I was judging them for not being motivated like me and low key, I was like, I'm not, like I was frustrated with them, and low key I was like,oh, my god, I'm failing them. And, you know, about day two, when I understood myself sitting in rehab, understanding and reading this, and then realizing that there's eight other languages and other different navigation systems. And I was hightailing it to figure out where my kids fell in this, so that I could serve them better. Not necessarily to put them in a box or label them or say, you're this, and you're that, but like, how can I create a win win, where they trust me, they know that they are seen, heard, understood and valued for who they were divinely made to be? And how can I speak to them in a way that builds credibility and trust and empower them to move forward. And when I got home, you know, I didn't come home and say, Oh, my God, the Enneagram I never talked about the Enneagram for the next five fucking years. But I was using it as a navigation system, every conversation I had with my kids., and then out in business and beyond, I was trying to ask questions that would help me kind of pinpoint where they fell in this beautiful framework, so that I could speak to them in a way that served them. And within days of coming home, and really being more curious and intentional with the way that I spoke, the the temperature and the culture in my home changed immediately. And they were teenagers at the time. And if you've ever been around teenagers, that's not an easy task, especially with the track record I had, you know, I was kind of an authoritarian in my house is very good and tactical, and they didn't have to worry about certain things. But it was like my way or the frickin highway, a lot of time. And that tone shifted, because of my understanding of this and speaking to them in a way that served them better. And when that happened, I could see that like, they started coming to me with everything, instead of the teenager. sneaky shit. They're like, Mom, this stuff's happening. We're scared. We don't know what to do. And because of me, knowing where they fell, the way they were motivated, the way that they feared, the way that they perceived the world, I could speak to it and not try to convince them to see it my way. And in turn, here's the beauty of this whole fucking thing is they taught me more about myself, because of my willingness to see through their lens too.

Lesley Logan 18:27  

Yeah, it's so beautiful. Oh, and I, what I'm also loving is that, like, you took this skill set that you had this gift of like seeing people and using that to navigate the world to survive. And the way you shifted, it was to use it to thrive. So everyone's thriving now, not just you. And I think that also is really cool. Like, the way I'm kind of now more intrigued about Enneagram. What you're saying is like, it's actually not so much about your number, it's actually more about the other people on the wheel and where they land. And so because if you can, if you can support that, if you know what their fear, way of fearing is or the know what their motivation is, you can support that journey. And if you support them, it'll, like you just said, it'll give back to you.

Tracy O'Malley 19:12  

100% and, you know, I'm raising two types that are very different than me and different from each other. And they both, their strengths and the way they're motivated. They are the two areas of my life that I probably needed the most growth in and so they are my greatest teachers to this day. And because of that, I bring something to the table that they absolutely need and they're more willing to lean into it. So we are like this beautiful, polarizing team, the three of us, you know, they're they're 26 and 27 now, and you know, they're my favorite people in the world and I am theirs and we're all very, very different but like when you have three very different polarizing motives, fears, the way that they see the world when you understand each other, you're bulletproof, but when you don't, that's when it's like fucking Fight Club, which it was, you know, back 15 years ago when I was starting this because it was just like trying to make each other see things in ways that we didn't understand. And it was like this power struggle rather than this, like, this is who we are. Let's leverage this to make this beautiful for us all.

Lesley Logan 20:24  

Yeah. (Inaudible) So fascinating, because like, you could be going, no, this is the way you need to see it. And the way you're doing that is activating the fear in them. So they're not even willing. And also, especially with teenagers, and just kids in general, most people don't know how to articulate what they're feeling. They don't how to articulate what they're feeling is fear. So like, then you're just like, you're not making sense that you don't even like what I'm saying. So I think this, okay. This is really, really, really cool. So you come home and you start to you use it, you said you didn't even talk about it for five years. When did it transition from you utilizing it support your life to you like doing this as something that you put out into the world?

Tracy O'Malley 21:02  

Yeah, so it got crazy. So you know, when I went into rehab, I walked away from the career that I had, which was 15 years in the car industry, very masculine energy, you know, which my intense robust ego worked very well in that industry. I was great at what I did, and I fucking hated every second of it. You know, it was very soul sucking, very cutthroat, which I like, but just not integrity filled. And when I walked into rehab, I also walked away from my career. So when I got out, I was like, okay, I'm 40 now, what do I want to be when I grow up, and I accidentally fell into a network marketing company. And now female-dominated. And I was like, I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to be soft in all of that. But I better fucking learn. And thank God, I was armed with the Enneagram because I was like, okay, let's test this thing. Let's test this thing. So I started every conversation and in order to build and I was very successful, within two years, I took that business from zero to a million-dollar income and on paper I was very least likely to do that. But with this understanding in this beautiful navigation system, every question like, how do I lead everyone, right? And the best statistic about that business was not the millions of dollars that I made, it was helping other people make millions of dollars that were different than me. So in that organization, there's like 100,000, salespeople now, and seven of them have gone on to make millions of dollars. They're represented by six different Enneagram types, and not one of them is an eight like me. That's my favorite statistic of all, is the ability to lead everyone. So you know, I started using it, started using it and because of the growth people were asking me, and I was speaking on stages in front of 20,000 people like how are you doing this? You're lit single mom that went to rehab with no social network? How did you make this happen? And I'm like, I leveraged every single person, I made every single person in front of me a leader. And how did I do that? Because I spoke to who they are, not who I wanted them to be. And I was using this tool the whole time, nobody knew it. Part of me really liked having the secret weapon nobody knew about. But part of me is like, I just got good at it, I was using my divine gifts. And the Enneagram provided me a language to put to it and a system that I already had. But then 2017 happened and I got really sick. And I got sidelined. And around the same time. And I had already kind of felt this pull that I knew there was something bigger that I was supposed to be doing. And that little girl in me, when I was like, I knew that I would be doing something like this. But my robust ego also really liked making millions of dollars a year doing something very easy. That came very easy to me, I wasn't going to stop that. And so like there was this divine intervention, and this forced sabbatical with my health, that forced me to kind of get still, again, which I don't necessarily love. I get it. But I don't love it. And it was during this time that the Enneagram became trendy. And it pissed me off. Because I've been using it at this point for six years, five, six years. And it became the cutesy thing and I was fucking angry about it. I was like, you guys are missing the beauty and the power of this tool. So I didn't hop on it because it was trendy. I hopped on it because I was mad about it. Because I was like, that's totally anything too, don't do things just because it's cool. It's like, no, you guys are doing it wrong. And I'm about to disrupt what you guys believe about this. And then I came out of the Enneagram closet and reveal like how I built that business and made leaders was understanding this framework and knowing where people fell in it with out assessments without test without me even saying what's your fucking Enneagram type? I got so good at where are you motivated? And then if I felt like I got it, I would know because hello, we could make shit happen, right? And so when it became trendy, I was like, okay, I'm gonna show you guys actually how to use this thing, because you're just, you're learning about your type, but you're missing the mark if you don't know all the things that are connected to you, like you said earlier, like me learning about the other types is actually beneficial because my aid tool, which is my main source is usually not the right tool for the job. So I better know how to use the other dynamics that are connected to me in order to be the best version of myself. And so people were like, Oh, my God, you've been using this this whole time. I'm like, yeah, let me show you how. And so people started bringing me into masterminds and group coaching programs. And, you know, big Fortune 500 companies are now having me on retainer as their executive coach using this language. Right? It's a (inaudible) language. I know. I mean, Google, Amazon, YouTube, Facebook, John Deere, have all brought me in to teach them this language. Because when we understand each other, we understand everything. And when we understand each other, we build credibility and trust, and we build a culture that's bulletproof. And that wins. So I was like, Who knew that the girl who showed up in rehab and told her therapist to fuck off when she said, I want you to do the Enneagram is now teaching it to millions of people all over the world.

Lesley Logan 26:39  

I mean, it's crazy. It's also amazing. It's also it's like, it definitely is like 'what we resist is there to assist' kind of a thing. You know, I've definitely, okay, but hold on. So you went from like, being in car sales and then in network marketing, and then to speaking in front of people? Are you a natural speaker? Did you like speaking in front of people? How do you prepare for that?

Tracy O'Malley 27:00  

You know, it's so funny, because I get a lot of people who want to be speakers and like, the best speakers are the ones who never wanted to be a speaker. Honestly, like, it was never about that. For me, I'm great at it. I mean, I'm not polished at all. Like, I'm not like, specially trained, but I can move a room and I can make an impact. In fact, I was the girl in college that would vomit. Before my communications class. In high school, I was really good in music and things like in sports. But if they wanted me to do like a solo, like, I'm like, I'm out. I don't want to be this. I like to fly under the radar. I like to be stealthy. And so when they started putting me on stages, I was like, this was never my calling. But I know that the impact I'm here to make is really important. And I'm going to get over my myself. Even as a little girl, when I was reading maps, like I grew up reading maps, for a reason. I always wanted to understand how we got here, and how do we get from here to there. And the fact that, you know, if you take my my whole life, and connect all the dots, they all mattered, and they all can, lays a trail for somebody else. And I still, like speaking I'm good at it. But it's not my favorite thing to do. It's not my greatest work. I'd much rather be in the trench with somebody. I'd much rather like, okay, like, let me impact you so you can go impact millions, right? I like to be more of this invisible, like 911 call, which I am to a lot of people. Like when hell's breaking loose, like my phone's ringing. And nobody knows about it. And I love that, like, that's my favorite work to do. But bringing the voice to something like this. And something like a story like mine, I think is really important to kind of make that impact. And because I'm not polished and because I'm real. I think we need more of that. So, I'll continue to do it.

Lesley Logan 29:05  

I completely agree. I think it's really true. I think it's really easy for people to see a polished speaker and go oh my gosh, they like, first of all, you'll hear a polished speaker tell a story similar to yours and go and you will forget how bad it was because just this polished thing and then you put yourself like that's, that's where I have to be. And it's like actually, like they had coaches, they had help. But also, people nowadays are more likely to want the realness and Chelsea Peitz, she's been on the podcast. She's a social media coach. And she actually said that there's, I forget the law, you guys, it's on her Instagram account, but like, there was like some sort of like, law of physics, but law does a different title, which is like, people are more likely to trust you if they if they already liked you. And then they see you make a mistake and they see you keep going. They're actually more likely to trust you. So in her example, it's like, you know, screwing up, you know, in your reel or having a misspeak and then correcting that in a podcast or speeche is actually more valuable to building trust than if you say it perfectly right every single time.

Tracy O'Malley 30:05  

That's one of the things that I love about your podcast, too. Like the be it till you see it. You just, I knew as a little girl this is what I was gonna be doing. It was never what I wanted. But I was like, okay, and you know, when I knew that I would be speaking and nobody was there. Nobody knew who the hell I was. But I knew that this calling was on my life. And sometimes when the calling is calling, and you're gonna get called out to get called up and, and all the things I was like, alright, well, I'm just going to speak as though I've been speaking to arenas. And I never have a signature keynote. I'm not saying not knocking anybody that does. But the reason I get asked back a lot is because you're gonna get something different every time and you never know what it's going to be. And I think people really appreciate that, because that's fucking life. Life on life's terms is really, really hard. And a pretty polished signature keynote isn't going to create transformation. It might make somebody cry, it might make somebody buy some shit. But I am here to accelerate transformation and really disrupt somebody's life so that they can step into who they were always designed to be. And I wish somebody had done that for me. And so, you know, when I get asked why I do what I do, it's like, I would have died for me back 23 years ago, when I really started diving in and understanding that the biology of who I am, the biography that I came from, the behaviors that didn't serve me anymore, and this backstory really were gonna matter for something. It was like, all right, bring it. Let's, let's see what's going to happen here. And it's still like, it's uncomfortable sometimes. But I know that I never remember anything that I say either. Ever.

Lesley Logan 31:52  

Yeah, I understand that. Especially because like, I also get like, a vulnerability hangover. Where am I after like, did I say the wrong thing? Did I say too much? You know what I mean? And it's like, well, what did I say? I don't even remember. So I'll have to just wait till it comes out. And I go was it too much? I don't know. To trust, it's right for that person. You know, I want to, for the person listening, it was like, okay, hold on, hold on, now. You, and it's like a be it till you see it story for you. How did you go from like, throwing up a communications class before you spoke in front of the room to like actually talking from arenas. Do have a mantra? Do you have a practice? Like, how did you get yourself to feel comfortable up there? Or do you still not?

Tracy O'Malley 32:30  

I'm very comfortable up there. Because it's never about me, right? I think humility, sobriety, my commitment to do the work every day. You know, one of the things that I learned and I carry with me every day, that, you know, I'm not like every day is a new clean slate. And what I have is a daily reprieve that's contingent on the maintenance of my spiritual condition, the maintenance of it, and every day, like that comes first. And so that humility of like, I know that my life is going to turn out beautiful, as long as I don't make it all about me, right? That I'm going to be safe. Yes, I'm going to get uncomfortable. But when we kind of approach, everything we do, it's like, who can I serve today, and not from a codependent like giving to get kind of way like, I'm here to be a vessel of change for him, and I will be beautifully, abundantly rewarded by that. The minute I stopped making it about me, this got a lot easier. There is no mantras because, and that's when when I do remember what I say, on a stage or on a podcast. It's because I made it about me, because it was like scripted, bullet pointed all the things but when I'm like, Who am I going to serve today? I know that if I impact the one person in the room that needs to hear this, they're gonna go out and make a difference in this world. And my job is done. Like it's amazing. It's amazing. And so just remembering that this is for the greatest good, and I will get mine. And it may not look the way that I want. But there isn't necessarily a mantra but humble, humble, humble, humble, humble, and doing my own work every day. It was funny. I've never branded myself, believe it or not. It's amazing that I've have this amazing business that I've had over the last decade because I've never done I'm so messy. There is no, nothing Lesley, have I ever done that is planned. I've never launched. I've never had any kind of marketing, nothing. It's all been pure instincts and intuition for me. And although that has served me very well and served the people really well. I also recognize that I'm not making the impact I'm making. I'm not making the impact I want to make because there's this visibility kind of breakdown in like people hear about me. In fact, you, you probably heard about me from our friend Jake. And then you went to my social and you're like, this doesn't, like,I hear how great she is. but this shit sucks. Facts. I mean, not saying that you said that. 

Lesley Logan 35:11  

I didn't say that. But I was like, wow, Jake, she's not very, like, I just, you don't say enough about you? That's true. 

Tracy O'Malley 35:19  

Bingo. Bingo. So I have hired a creative director who I fucking love. She's amazing. And we're excavating a lot of my story. And it's like, the vulnerability that comes with that, and like, I'm terrified of it and equally, really excited because it's bringing this whole collection of 52 years of my life. And why I was born to do this and why I was born to help other people kind of navigate the hard things in their life and why I'm the person to do that. It's very, very confronting for me. And also like, it feels like a big warm hug. And it feels like that little girl that was reading maps all by herself, trying to figure this shit out on her own, is all of a sudden saying, yay, all of this is going to help people in a way that we've always wanted. It's so cool. It's so cool.

Lesley Logan 36:13  

It's so cool. And I love that you bring up I mean, like the be it till you see it came from like, peopl always asking me like, how are you so confident? Like, how do you get all these things done? And I was like, what are you talking about? Like, I'm, like, scared all the time. Like, I'm constantly like, like, wondering, like, Is this, are we doing the right thing? Is this the right thing? But I always take the end in mind, and I work backwards. And then I act like the person, I do the things that that end would get me now. And that's where this came from. And I will always attribute it to Amy Cuddy, because she actually is the person who formulated that sentence for me in her TED Talk, like, she doesn't know me, and, you know, shout at anyone who knows Amy, we're trying to get a hold of her. But, it's interesting thing, like, we, it's tempting to put everything in a box from our childhood ago that was traumatic, that caused me to be like this, instead of actually going, okay, if it wasn't like that, I wouldn't be this person, I wouldn't have these tools, skill sets, and I wouldn't have had to do the things I've had to do to become the person I am. And also, there's a, there's a part of you in there that like was already doing these things in your own little way. And it's a strength you've had for much longer than you give yourself credit for. So I think it's just really, really cool. Like, I could talk to you forever, I see it really good. But we're gonna take a brief break and find how people can work with you. 

Lesley Logan 37:25  

Alright, Tracy, so one of the things I love is that you're not all about just figuring out the number, you truly want to help people understand how to utilize this tool in their life. So they can literally make the impact they want to make. So can you tell everyone how they can work with you and find you?

Tracy O'Malley 37:39  

So there's a few different ways. I have a podcast that has over 400 episodes. So if you're like curious about this, before you go down the rabbit hole of all the other shit that's out there, just go listen to my podcast. I talk about leadership, you know, because I think this is all coming from this legendary leadership, this legend that you are created to be, right? And how we lead ourselves will impact how we can go out in the world and lead in our homes and out in the professional world as well. And so a lot of my teachings using the Enneagram is self leadership and then leading beyond you. You can go to TracyOMalley.com to start with the Enneagram. I always say it's a great starting point especially if you've been through anything in your life and you feel like you're all over the place. You're throwing a bunch of crap up at the wall hoping something sticks like my Enneagram assessment's over 95% accurate. Start there because then it kind of sifts through and you'll know, okay, this is what motivates me. This is the fear this is my blind spot. Like I at least I know that and you can meet yourself with more compassion instead of the whipping shame stick. So go there. We have a code for your audience. If you go to TracyOMalley.com and you get the assessment and use the code, be it, you'll get a beautiful little special discount.

Lesley Logan 39:01  

We love that. We love that, guys. I, this is, I think this is, first of all, 400 episodes. I'm gonna start binging on all of that just so I can learn more. And I think it's just really a gift that you've given everyone the amount of effort and work you've put out there. I hope more people get to hear about you because it's going to change their lives. So, B-E-I-T guys. We'll put the link in the show notes.

Tracy O'Malley 39:27  

Yeah, you know, I also go in I work with a lot of teams as well because what usually happens is once you kind of drink the Enneagram Kool-Aid, you can also do like a 90-minute deep dive. So it's kind of like, it's one thing to have the ticket, the Enneagram and understanding and having the right information. Hello, that's the cookie right there like having that, awesome. But I'm like somebody's like great. Now what do I do with this? I'm the girl who buys the fast pass everywhere I go. I need skipping lines like tell me what this means. And bring me to the front of the line. Like you can dive deep with me for 90 minutes. It's like 10 years of therapy, life frickin changing. So not only do you have the right information, I kind of tell you what to do with this in your life personally and professionally. So then what happens usually is once that happens, usually I get brought into a couple situations, or partners, or business partners, or besties, or parent-child situations, family situations, masterminds, groups, companies, like people are seeing the profound understanding that this can have like when you understand the profound effect it can have in cohesiveness and culture, personally and professionally, that they want everybody to do it. And I am the master facilitator for that. So if you have teams or organizations bring me in, it's like, I'm way more than the Enneagram y'all like, that's just the tool that I use. I have, you know, 23 years of really diving deep into a lot of modalities to really help you make sense of yourself and those that you love and lead.

Lesley Logan 41:05  

So cool. I have already, like, my mind's already thinking, my husband's gonna listen to this. And I'm like, maybe you know, have someone interpret.

Tracy O'Malley 41:13  

We can do a topical session podcast episode. I can do, like, therapy.

Lesley Logan 41:16  

Well, because you're, you know, like, we have the Strength Finders 2.0, which is always very helpful. Like, we use it for our team. But it's like, it's kind of like what you do and not the how to do it. Yeah, so like, the Enneagram is very much like on how you do things like the why behind the, the why, sorry, the why is more important because we work together. And so if someone's like, why are you doing it like that? And other times he's like, why are you getting so upset? I'm like, I think it's because I'm a seven and you're a four, three or whatever. 

Tracy O'Malley 41:42  

Oh yea, like, seriously, my relationship that I'm in, my romantic relationship, there's no way it survives without my understanding and understanding how to integrate that because I would have probably throat punched him, you know, years ago, because he would have been so triggering to me when he's under stress, like under, but understanding that even when it feels personal, like it's not. And this is the beauty of that is like, yeah, this doesn't feel good. And like, I don't like your behaviors right now. But I understand it isn't, it isn't about me. And how can I serve you and be a better partner for you? And yeah, I had good friends of mine, clients, they had me come do their team, right? They did like a team retreat. And then they have a podcast as well and they're sex therapist, like, and then I did like a couple session on air with them. It was so much fun. Oh, and every once in a while I get calls. They're like, okay, he's acting like this, what does this mean?

Lesley Logan 42:39  

You have to have, you have to have like a Voxer membership, where people can just pay you like, hey, Tracy, hold on. Before I let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?

Tracy O'Malley 42:52  

So I think that, you know, we hear like, awareness is everything. Yeah, that's the first part. But most of us go from awareness to like, how do I fix this? How do I make this stop? Right? Especially in the times we live in, we go from this awareness to action, awareness to action, and we skip this really fucking important part of called acknowledgement, right? And this is where we connect the dots. And the Enneagram can help you connect them faster. So that's why I love this tool so much. But also really diving into biography not to stay stuck, you know, I used to be somebody like I'm not looking back, I'm not going that way. But we really have to be able to reverse engineer, how we got here, and where even some of the behaviors that you and I have had that worked out, okay, for us, weren't necessarily coming from the healthiest of places, they were more for survival. And, yes, that's fine. But that's not sustainable or fulfilling, and you'll burn out. Right? So taking the time in this understanding your biography, doing some timeline work, I really, strongly encourage people, whenever I'm working with my private VIP clients, I send them a journal. And I say, divide it into three sections. And I want you to take at least a minimum of a five-minute walk every day. And with no technology, no multitasking, no podcast, I don't want you listening to anything, I want you to sit at the couch, lace up your shoes and invite the child inside of you for a conversation. And that's kind of where my journey started to unpack my timeline. And so as you start walking, and inviting, it's just like any relationship, you have to be consistent and committed to it. And even doing some of this inner child work, which is really fucking important, you guys, really important. You have to be consistent with it. So in this journal, I have them divided into three different categories and the first section is like zero to seven. The second section is eight to like 13 and the second or the third section is 14 and up and any kind of thoughts, feelings, memories and emotions that come up, even the littlest things, put in one of those sections, and start building this timeline of understanding this is how you're kind of going back and rerouting and seeing how you took this route, how you took this route, how you took this route, and where some of those patterns that serve you really well came from dysfunctional places, and how you can flip the script because those things are your superpowers, but they can also be the kryptonite in your life as well. And it's just a matter of understanding the come from and that we can switch the come from when we can meet ourselves with compassion. And when we understand that compassion comes when we understand that, at the root of everything that we're doing is a beautiful, beautiful child that is running scared. And we can (inaudible) that part of who we are, that's when we can shift this. And those things that maybe are the kryptonite in your life can become the superpowers. Like,the kryptonite in my life has always been my intensity. Like seriously, I can blow up my life on a dime, I could blow up a situation. And like be it be very, very disruptive. That intensity hasn't gone anywhere. I can still blow some shit up. But now it's coming from a place of love, compassion, empathy, service, grace, rather than fear, insecurity, unworthiness, shame, guilt, and ego. So get a journal, do the three, take a walk five minutes a day, invite that child in. One of the things that I do every morning is I do the walk. And I invite you know, whatever you believe in, I believe in a god that's bigger than me, good orderly direction, whatever that means to you. And I say any thoughts, feelings, memories, emotions that need to come up that I need to address, and reconcile or embrace so that I can step into the calling that you have on my life. I'm available for it, even if it's uncomfortable, and even if it's exciting, right? So that honestly, I know it sounds a little woo. But I'm telling you this, this is an action item that most people, they say I've done the inner work, check. I've done my inner child work. You don't fucking stop it. It's until you're dead, you guys. Yeah, it's until you're dead. Because as you build this and create a safe place for your inner child to come out and play, guess what he or she's got a lot more to say. And if you're like me and have five decades under your life, she's been stuffing shit for a long, long time. So the safer that I have created an environment for her to speak freely, and let her freak flag fly. She's got all sorts of shit she's wanting to say. And the more confident she gets in speaking it the more I don't sabotage my own shit in my life today.

Lesley Logan 47:41  

Oh my gosh, Tracy, like I could listen to you forever. Thank goodness, you have four episodes? To do. But I, I feel like we barely scratched the surface. 

Tracy O'Malley 47:51  

We barely did. 

Lesley Logan 47:51  

Yeah, well, I know we'll be having you back. But also, I just know that every single person listening to this, the thing that's keeping them from being it till they see it is the inner work that they maybe think they've done or thought they did or have been avoiding doing. And I love all the things you've offered us. You guys, go listen to the podcast, go take a look at that blueprint and also like work with you because it will change your life and you can start to see people you know, just like not even as powerful as Enneagram but when I read the four tendencies, and I was like, hold on. Okay, so Brad's probably a rebel. I'm an upholder. That's an interesting combination as a couple, here we go. But then I sort of see different people and like, like some people, like this person is so annoying, and like they're a questioner, and it is annoying. And they will get in their own way, because they'll just keep asking, but you know, once you can start to like pinpoint things. And so I feel like having the Enneagram being a guiding light as a compass is gonna make your life so much easier with the people around you, the people you're trying to support. Every single person this episode I know is trying to change people's lives. And whether it's five people or 5 million people like you have to understand how to serve them. And so Tracy, you're just amazing. Thank you for your gifts and thank you for sharing with us. I can't wait to hear how people are going to use these tips in your life. Make sure you tag Tracy, tag the Be It Pod. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.

Lesley Logan 49:06  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.

Lesley Logan 49:33  

Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 49:48  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 49:53  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 49:58  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 50:05  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 50:08  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Today’s 'Fuck Yeah Friday' highlights personal victories and community successes. Discover how Jeanne expertly navigates pricing strategies and learn about Adrienne’s proactive financial adjustments, alongside exciting updates on the OPC Summer Camp. Lesley emphasizes the importance of celebrating wins, no matter the size, showing how even small actions can make a significant impact. End your week on a high note with a special affirmation to uplift and inspire you to Be It Till You See It.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Jeanne manages price adjustments and cancellations effectively.
• Adrienne improves financial planning and personal achievements.
• Exciting details and early announcement to kick off OPC Summer Camp.
• Why celebrating all wins, big or small, is crucial for positive impact.

Episode References/Links:

• Tess Waresmith Episode
• OPC Summer Camp

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.

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Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!
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• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube
• Profitable Pilates

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday.

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah.

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. 

Lesley Logan 0:05  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:46  

Hey, Be It babe, Happy May 17th. How are you? Welcome back to The Fuck Yeah Friday episode. This is where I share wins of yours, wins of mine and an affirmation to kickstart our weekend because there are always things that are good that are happening in your life even when the (ish) has hit the fan, there's something good that's going to come from everything. So there's always balance and what we need to focus on is the good stuff because there's plenty of bad. Your friends will tell you all the bad you don't have to like focus on that. 

Lesley Logan 1:12  

So here is a win from Jeanne Cho, she's an Agency member and her FYF. Sent out price increase emails this week, only received one negative response but handled it graciously and she's someone that makes sense to let go of. A few clients that express understanding. Today was my fifth Friday starting work in the ideal schedule at 9am after taking my daughter to school. Two clients late-cancelled so one immediately said she understand the need to charge her. The second is a new client who not only said the price increase is fine but also fine with the late cancel charge. Now that I have these two cancels I have more time in my day to recover and work on gemstones. Bumped into a sexy fling from last summer, now that I'm not interested he keeps reaching out. Love how the universe works. So many great wins in here Jeanne. So Jeanne, whenever you do a price increase it can be so, so scary. And also charging for late cance can be scary. But these are businesses that you're running, whether you're a Pilates instructor or not, anything that you are doing that you have to pay taxes on is a business, you have to treat it like one. Otherwise, it's called a hobby and then they don't let you do it anymore. So go, Jeanne. 

Lesley Logan 2:15  

All right, this one is from Adrienne McCaskey. She's also one of our Agency members. And I got to meet her at the winter tour. So I just am so excited. She said FYF, some simple and yet monumental milestones this week, following the webinar with Tess last month, pause, Tess Waresmith was a guest on the podcast. And so, this is the Tess that she's talking about and we had her in the Agency to do a webinar. So, here we go. Adrienne's win. Following the webinar with Tess last month, I'm evaluating my financial and retirement accounts and opened an HYSA, a CD and savings accounts for my kids. Worked with my insurance agent and switched companies around based on liability policies and still getting the coverage I need while saving $600 plus annually. Finally achieved my goal of adding a blog to my website and made my first post this week and have drafts up for the next two written, nearly ready to go. Scheduled an overdue massage for late this month, made time to volunteer at my son's classroom twice this week. And it meant so much to both of us. Did two OPC workouts this week. Made the conscious decision to let go of a new-ish client that was requiring a lot of attention and sapping my energy. And the next day I received a message from someone who wants to start and fits my ideal client. Whoo, go, Adrienne, you are amazing. Those are monumental milestones. Those are so, so, so cool. I love sharing these wins. So make sure you send your wins. And so we can celebrate them. Because when you hear them, you get to really celebrate the thing that you did. It's so cool. 

Lesley Logan 3:33  

All right. We've had a lot of things going on around here, I'm super, super excited to share that we have been able to kick off the OPC Summer Camp. That is a really big deal. I mean, we made it bigger and better than ever, 14 teachers, right? So I'm one of them. But we corralled 14 teachers and topics and we wanted to get it announced as early as possible. And so I'm just so proud of the team for all the work they've done to get this and also another win and part of it was like we've always wanted to be able to do a day pass to make something like really affordable for people. And we finally figured a way to do that and pay all of our teachers out accordingly. So it has been something we've been working on for almost a year. And so I'm just so, so proud of things, and I share it with you like it's not even complete guys. The win is just that it's announced. I will have another one in June when it is complete. But the win is that it's announced. Wins like this are really impactful because they include not just me, but so many other people and then their impact is even bigger than all of us and that is what we always focus on here. And so another way to think about you know, why you should celebrate your wins is to celebrate the small things. Because to celebrate the impact you're trying to make on this planet, every single one of us whether you work for yourself or you work for someone else, you are making an impact on people's lives and you can celebrate. You can have a win that's like I opened the door for the person behind me and they were struggling with it. That's a fucking great win because you changed that person's day. If they had to like struggle to open the door it would have like set their whole day in a different direction. So anyway, that is why we celebrate some wins. So yay to my team and everyone who has been part of Summer Camp because the fact that we got it launched in April was a humongous, humongous win. And I can't wait to see what comes from Summer Camp when it finally is live in June. 

Lesley Logan 5:19  

So, all right now, let's get you on your day. Let's get you on your road. Let's get you kicking off your weekend with an affirmation. Which one we're going to do today? Here we go. My sensitivity is beautiful and my feelings and emotions are valid. My sensitivity is beautiful and my feelings and emotions are valid. Say it with me one more time. My sensitivity is beautiful and my feelings and emotions are valid. Remember, there's a couple Be It Action Items that are like, feel, like, feel the affirmations in your body. So, hope you felt that somewhere and wherever you felt it was awesome. And thank you so much for being part of the Be It Till You See It podcast. You are wonderful. And I will see you next week. 

Lesley Logan 6:00  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 

Lesley Logan 6:27  

Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.

Brad Crowell 6:42  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 6:47  

It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.

Brad Crowell 6:52  

Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.

Lesley Logan 6:59  

Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.

Brad Crowell 7:02  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Explore the transformative aspects of feminine energy in this insightful Recap episode with Brad and Lesley. Together, they debunk common misconceptions and underline the significant benefits of feminine energy in empowering women to lead with both vulnerability and confidence. Focusing on critical life areas—love, career, and friendships—this episode invites listeners to evaluate their own beliefs, values, and the energies they embody. Discover the importance of balancing masculine and feminine energies, a key to achieving both personal well-being and professional success.

If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at [email protected].

And as always, if you’re enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.

In this episode you will learn about:

• Recognize the benefits of employing feminine energy.
• Identifying your core values by reflecting on what you don't want.
• How to examine your masculine energy to shift into a feminine space.
• Why managing your energy contributes to creating a positive environment.

Episode References/Links:

• OPC Summer Camp
• Cambodia 2025 Early Bird
• OPC Summer Tour
• Barrels Flashcards
• 2025 eLevate Round 5 & New Release of the Mat Flashcards
• Tower Power Happy Hour with Liza Osoteo
• Mary McMonagle Linktree
• Mary McMonagle Instagram
• Mary McMonagle Podcast
• Kelli Adame Episode 346 on Masculine Energy

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.

DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper’s Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox

Be in the know with all the workshops at OPC

Be It Till You See It Podcast Survey

Be a part of Lesley’s Pilates Mentorship

FREE Ditching Busy Webinar

Resources:

• Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!
• Lesley Logan website
• Be It Till You See It Podcast
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan
• Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube
• Profitable Pilates

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

What I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it and then also be okay tapping into the masculine energy and just go back to last week's episode and realize if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck and, you know, shift gears a little bit. 

Lesley Logan 0:23  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. 

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host and life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the transformative convo I had with Mary McMonagle in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, feel free to go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Or you should just listen to this one and then like roll right into the next one. You could add it to your queue. There's different ways to listen to podcast. So thank you for being here. 

Brad Crowell 1:25  

Queue it up. 

Lesley Logan 1:26  

Today is May 16th 2024. And it is Global Accessibility Awareness Day. So this day is a focus on accessibility and Global Accessibility Awareness is celebrated every third Thursday in May. This year, it takes place on May 16th. People are encouraged to discuss, debate and educate themselves on access issues on Global Accessibility Awareness Day. You know, I'm just going to add to this. It doesn't have to be digital. Make yourself aware of things that like would be inaccessible to a lot of people. We were in Nashville and I noticed there are no sidewalks in most of the neighborhoods. I'm like what if someone is in a wheelchair? How are they getting around in this neighborhood? They're not. They're not. You couldn't even walk. And then we were in Mexico. And I was like, how? How is this person going on this sidewalk? So like just you know, different things. Also shout out to Jane Fonda. Who was like doing activism for blind people. I think it's blind people might have been deaf people. No, no, it was deaf people. She learned sign language so she can accept an award in sign language. So she's freaking awesome. I'm not saying you have to go learn sign language, although that does feel like a really cool skill set to have. But just you know, make yourself aware of accessibility issues that could be where you are we can affect places that we are available at and around is a key event that spotlights digital accessibility and inclusion for persons with disabilities to raise awareness and inspire action. Increasing the usability and accessibility of digital products like websites, mobile applications and other online tools is important as everyone needs to have access to the same information no matter what their design disabilities may be. So you know, if you have a website, it's you got to do all the things, guys. You got to, there's an ADA compliance in the United States. And if you are in a different country, it's probably called something else. So figure out what that is. But yeah, I just think it's really cool to just think about because we don't think about things that don't affect us. So try it sometime. It makes you feel like you're part of a bigger community.

Brad Crowell 3:18  

It's true. Let's get into here's what's coming out.

Lesley Logan 3:22  

What's coming out, babe? You take it. 

Brad Crowell 3:23  

Okay, okay. Next up is OPC Summer Camp. Y'all were really, really fired up about this. June 1 and 2 join us live for the party. We are going back to camp and it's going to be the best one because you don't have to get dirty. You don't have to use the buddy system to go to the bathhouse you don't have to worry about creaky cabins. You don't have to worry about terrible food. No mosquito bites. No one's going to try to drown you in the lake. 

Lesley Logan 3:49  

Brad and I are your camp directors. 

Brad Crowell 3:51  

Yeah, there's nobody accidentally archery practicing like shooting at kids. You're good. 

Lesley Logan 3:57  

Yeah, we are the camp directors and you have 14 camp counselors. Well, 13 because I'm one of them. 

Brad Crowell 4:02  

Because we're gonna be on Camp Zoom, y'all. 

Lesley Logan 4:04  

Yeah, Camp Zoom. And if you are not catching the vibe of what we're throwing down, think Wet Hot American Summer y'all like it is but without the sexual innuendo jokes. At any rate, we are having a great time. We have seven classes and seven workshops over two days. It is done live but there will be replays in perpetuity for those who purchased them. So if you cannot join us live, you are going to miss out on Camp Zoom, but you are still going to be able to be part of summer camp in a way that you never ever could before because you know if you, in camps, usually you have to be there. 

Brad Crowell 4:38  

And speaking about making accessible. Our whole goal with this was to put you all who are probably, many of you are probably way into Pilates because obviously that's most of the community that we speak to but we're putting a bunch of classes and workshops in for people who might not be Pilates diehards, right, but this will be a really appealing topic to them such as. 

Lesley Logan 5:01  

Every single class and workshop is meant for whether you're a Pilates lover or a Pilates teacher so, because everybody is a Pilates practitioner. Yeah, so the topics include pelvic floor, knee pain, hypermobility, breast cancer survivor. We have endurance athlete workouts. We have a happy hip workout. I'm super excited about we have a workshop on modifications for the Wunda chair if you have back issues, we have Rachel Piper's doing the long stretch series. We've got Control Your Balance on the Mat. So many. Oh, Tammy is helping us build strength on the reformer.

Brad Crowell 5:37  

Love it.

Lesley Logan 5:38  

So many I mean.

Brad Crowell 5:39  

And we have a happy hour. So if they don't want to do anything else tell them to come to the happy hour. 

Lesley Logan 5:43  

So tower power happy hour's Liza (inaudible). It's a class. She said bring your, bring your own bubbles and so I'm sure she means she's doing sparkling water but that one you'll actually like feel you're laughing the whole time. Like Lisa just makes me laugh. So at any rate, come. Come, sign up. 

Brad Crowell 6:01  

So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events.

Lesley Logan 6:04  

And you can buy ala cart or you can buy the day pass. Savings is at the day pass but get it while it's on Early Bird, guys.

Brad Crowell 6:10  

Do it, do it, do it. All right, next up, we got Cambodia. We are going back again to Cambodia. We've been talking about it this trip, this year for our 2024. But guess what? This year is sold out. What? So we decided to add early next year, February 2025. We're going to be going it's also another amazing time of the year this is actually the two times a year that we historically had gone until COVID really jacked everything up. But we would go in Feb and we would go the end of the year.

Lesley Logan 6:38  

Except for that time we did March and it was really hot and it was right before the pandemic so we were alone in the country. It was amazing.

Brad Crowell 6:45  

That's true. But, go to lesleylogan.co/retreats with an 'S' to get on the waitlist. We may actually be on early bird right now as you're listening to this. So when you sign up for that waitlist we'll send you an email right away telling you hey, actually, it's open check it out. But, lesleylogan.co/retreats.

Lesley Logan 7:03  

And the OPC Summer Tour is around the corner you know.

Brad Crowell 7:07  

Yes, not to be confused with Summer Camp. 

Lesley Logan 7:09  

No, these are two different things. 

Brad Crowell 7:10  

This is Summer Tour. 

Lesley Logan 7:10  

Summer Camp, you join us on Zoom. Summer Tour, we're coming to you.

Brad Crowell 7:13  

We're coming to you.

Lesley Logan 7:14  

And our headline sponsor is Balanced Body again. So lots of good things are coming from that. 

Brad Crowell 7:19  

Yeah, it's gonna be great. 

Lesley Logan 7:20  

So you want to go opc.me/tour so that you can find out what stops we're going to and I'm just saying if it's under four-hour drive, you should do it and we did have people who did six hours just to come to class so just. 

We definitely did and it was a party. 

No pressure. 

Brad Crowell 7:32  

We had a really good time. And okay, next up. Y'all know how much time and energy I have spent trying to write all these damn flashcards for the barrels? 

Lesley Logan 7:40  

Zero for me, but for me, we're over 400 hours. So you want to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist this might be the last chance to get on that waitlist to get the presale price. We are

Brad Crowell 7:50  

We may be in presale for this right now as well. 

Lesley Logan 7:52  

Yeah and it's a short window. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist for the barrels flashcards.

Brad Crowell 7:58  

If you missed the barrels window, just add yourself to, we still have one more deck coming up next year. 

Lesley Logan 8:03  

Yeah, so just add yourself to the waitlist anyways, for that. I'm not telling you the thing that we got

Brad Crowell 8:07  

Next up we got eLevate. So Lesley is going to be doing eLevate round five in 2025. Right? So we're going to be figuring all that out and doing enrollment and everything this summer. But if you've ever wanted to know all the things that Lesley has learned from her teacher, Jay, who was a student of Joseph Pilates, this is where Lesley gets to actually pass on all this information. It is a nine-month program. It is incredible the transformation (inaudible).

Lesley Logan 8:34  

And when you graduate, you still chat with me, I actually tell a few girls today about some stuff that's going on in their

Brad Crowell 8:39  

There's a thriving alumni community. But the transformation for you as someone who was like already teaching Pilates is you will be connecting the dots on all the pieces of equipment. You will be understanding the Pilates method at a higher level. You will be confident when you meet a client that you don't have to spend an hour preparing for them before you teach them, right? You'll be able to look at their body and understand this is what they need to get them to the goals that they have, right, and it takes away all the class planning time. It's just been amazing for me to hear all the feedback from everyone who's gone through it. And then really what isanother incredible thing is you're building new relationships with amazing women all around the world that are gonna last you for a lifetime. Right? It has been so fun for us to see people partner up, go through this program together. And then they're besties it's like, you know, like how often does that happen?

Lesley Logan 9:36  

Heather and Christine actually teach each other every single week. Every single week. 

Brad Crowell 9:40  

Yeah. Amazing. So go to lesleylogan.co/ew that's for eLevate waitlist. E-W

Lesley Logan 9:48  

We'll be opening up the application this summer for 2025. So and it's limited. I only take 12 people in a group. 

Brad Crowell 9:54  

That's right. All right. 

Lesley Logan 9:56  

All right. Before I go into Mary's amazingness Do we have an audience question?

Brad Crowell 10:00  

Yes, we sure do. This is from Prada. 

Lesley Logan 10:03  

Prada and Pilates, Brad. 

Brad Crowell 10:05  

Oh, Prada and Pilates. Yeah, I thought it was Pilates IG. Yeah. Prada and Pilates from Instagram. When is your next in-person event, Dear Lesley?

Lesley Logan 10:16  

So it's going to be the Summer Tour. Yeah, that's our next in-person. And then there's a winter tour. And in between there's a retreat. But if you didn't, if you're not signed up for that, you can't sign up for that yet it's in February. So yeah.

Brad Crowell 10:30  

Yeah. Sorry you missed it. No, so Summer Tour is going to be in August. Winter Tour is gonna be in December. Summer Tour, we're going through the Midwest. Like we said, winter tour we're probably going to do.

Lesley Logan 10:39  

We're doing a lot, everything but the West Coast. 

Brad Crowell 10:41  

Yeah, we're going all the way up. We make all the way to Maine, y'all. Working it out, working it out. 

Lesley Logan 10:46  

You're asking because I don't do a lot of in-persons anymore. And I just had someone asked me when I'm gonna come to Greece and teach. So here's the deal if you were wanting me to come somewhere to teach, and you do not live in the continental United States, where I can put it on a tour. I don't know. Because I'm not doing a lot of in-person pop ups all over the place. Unless I can actually connect a bunch of cities at one time. To be honest, I love going in and teaching around the world. Like I'm so blessed and honored that I get to do that. But pre-COVID, every month, every two weeks, I was flying to a different country. I like I literally went to Spain, came home for five days and then went to the UK. That's stupid. It was amazing. But it was crazy. And I'm 41. And I love where I live. And so I want to come and see you. But I have to put things together so that Brad and I can like make the most of a 12-hour flight, make the most of an 18-hour flight. And so if you want me to come where you are, let me know. And what we'll do is we'll gather up all of you I'm gonna come to a similar area, and we'll figure out a way to make a European tour or Canadian Tour or Australian tour. It's definitely that I want to do it. I just also want to honor my family and my dogs and my business. It's whenever we leave, the whole business actually like stops and they, our team makes things go but like, it's really hard. 

Brad Crowell 12:11  

So get yourself on a waitlist of ours, right? 

Lesley Logan 12:14  

Lastly, I just want to say, it would be weird of me to coach you on being it until you see it and having boundaries and taking care of yourself first if I didn't do it first. So this is not, I don't like you or I don't want to. I absolutely want to. I want to make it work for everybody. 

Brad Crowell 12:28  

It's not you. It's me. 

Lesley Logan 12:29  

It really is. And it's, it sounds cliche, those people, you know, people fuck that up in the dating world. It is okay for it to be you. It is okay for it to be me. And it's okay for us to figure out a way to make it work together. So thank you for this question. I hope to see you on Summer Tour.

Brad Crowell 12:42  

Yeah, go to opc.me/tour. All right, now let's talk about Mary McMonagle. Mary is a New Jersey-based intuitive healer and feminine energy coach specializing in guiding high-achieving women from masculine-driven control to a life lead with heart and vulnerability. Founder of True Tribe and host of the Living Your True Vibe Podcast, Mary empowers women to lead with their feminine energy, ensuring they remain grounded, yet flow effortlessly to achieve their aspirations.

Lesley Logan 13:15  

Yeah, I'm actually going to have an episode on her podcast that should be coming out at the same time that this one is.

Brad Crowell 13:21  

Oh cool. 

Lesley Logan 13:21  

Yeah, it's really cool. We had a really great conversation, I really enjoyed the questions she asked. So she's, she's a cool chick. And she's done some amazing things. And she shares a lot of vulnerability. So I love that. She, one of the things I liked that she said, it's so important to really look at your values and ask yourself are you being that. And I think a lot of times when we're really frustrated with ourselves, we're outside of our values, we are not in alignment with our values. And that is when things can get a little frustrating. And when we are within our values were aligned with our values, it makes it so much easier to talk ourselves off a cliff. We're like, Oh, my God, I didn't do the thing over there. It's like, well, if it's not aligned with your values, so you didn't do it. So you can actually just live confidently in that. And I think, I think a lot of ways to actually have confidence is going back to last week's episode for a second is, knowing what your values are. And if you don't know what they are, it's really hard to be in alignment with them. So homework, if you don't know your values is to do them. And if you came on the business retreat we did this year, you got your values, and it was so fun to see those girls get their values. And so at any rate, I thoroughly agree with that. So yeah, I thought that was really fun. What about you? 

Brad Crowell 14:27  

Yeah. Well, before we even go into that, this has been a couple times that we've had this idea of feminine versus masculine energy on the podcast, and 

Lesley Logan 14:38  

Oh yeah, people love episode 346. Shout out to Cassie. 

Brad Crowell 14:41  

They did. Well, you know, when I heard this again, I was like, huh, we're going to talk through this again. And I thought it was interesting to hear her talk about the benefits of feminine energy versus just feminine versus masculine. The way that I imagined feminine energy is it's not, it's not a good thing. It's not a win. It's not a positive, right? And she she kind of broke down the misconceptions, the preconceptions that we have, between the two, the two things and why you would want to incorporate feminine energy in. And not only that, that bringing feminine energy into your world does not mean that you still can't be a badass, you still can't be a supermom still can't be, you know, taking names. It's just a different approach. And I thought it was, I thought it was revealing, I thought it was really helpful for me to kind of understand that a little bit better. So I appreciated that. One of the things that I loved, she said, we figure out what our values are by identifying what we don't want. You know, like, if you feel stuck, when someone's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You're like, I don't know. But I definitely don't want to be this other thing over here. That's a great place to get started. You might not know what you want. But you probably can say, well, I definitely know what I don't want. And so if you're ever feeling stuck, you can flip it on its head and ask that question of like, what's the opposite here? Maybe I can identify what I don't want. And that can help me slowly piece together this bigger vision for my life? 

Lesley Logan 16:22  

Yeah, I think we've had that same sentiment come up before in the podcast on different things. That's like, Who do you want to be? It's like, Who don't you want to be? What do you want? Sometimes it's hard for us to envision, like, I think the other day you mentioned, like, what do you want, and you're like sleep. And it's a little weird that that's the first thing that comes up. It's like, for me, it's a G Wagen. Clearly, but sometimes we don't know what we want to get, we get so out of alignment, that it's going to take us a while we have to start with what we don't want to help us envision that. I want to just highlight like, I just want to go back to the feminine/masculine energy. I think society will say that being in your feminine is a negative thing. So I just want to clarify that you, Brad don't think that the feminine energy is a negative thing. But like that, the people will say, oh, like because people will think that you have it's weaker or like it's wrong to show your feelings. 

Brad Crowell 17:12  

Yeah, there are negative connotations associated with it. And no, I don't think I mean, you know, that, that having feminine energy or focusing on feminine energy is bad. And I also

Lesley Logan 17:23  

I think, because it's like a superpower to be a vulnerable person who can also receive, receive support, receive love receive?

Brad Crowell 17:30  

Well, also from Kelli Adame what she was talking about with it, is that there are times when men are also employing feminine energy. Right? And that is also a positive thing. 

Lesley Logan 17:40  

Because we have both energies inside of us. 

Brad Crowell 17:42  

Yes, yes. We're not one or the other. 

Lesley Logan 17:44  

Yes. And, and so.

Brad Crowell 17:46  

But again, that's a preconception. 

Lesley Logan 17:47  

Yeah. And I, 100% what I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it. And then also be okay, tapping into the masculine energy. And just like, go back to last week's episode. And realize, if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck, and, you know, shift gears a little bit, you know, we're allowed to flow between the two in your day.

Brad Crowell 18:16  

Well, that takes you right back to the second part of what I wanted to talk about, which is, you know, just, it is important to identify if you if you're feeling stuck identifying what you do want, then maybe you can employ identifying what you don't want, but you don't wanna get stuck in what you don't want. Right? The idea is that planning negativity, and that whole energy is it's easy to tap into that and then we we end up staying in that. So don't do that. Okay. 

Lesley Logan 18:45  

Don't do that. 

Brad Crowell 18:45  

This, this is what I don't want. But it's going to help me identify what I do. 

Lesley Logan 18:50  

Yeah, I love it. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Because I took over Brad's role, hahaha.

Brad Crowell 18:56  

What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items, can we take away from your convo with Mary McMonagle? She said, do something you are avoiding. She talks about how like something that you might be craving, somehow you could also be avoiding that. Be specific. When I think of something I'm avoiding, it actually causes stress, like in my gut, in my heart right inside of my chest, actually. And because I know I should be doing the thing, but I just don't want to do it. Right? Whatever the thing might be. And that could be you know, it's probably not like tackling a project in the shed that doesn't really matter. It doesn't really affect things, but what it could be is, you know, booking a doctor's appointment, you know, because whatever reason, it's just the last thing on my list that never gets done. Right? And I'm not craving booking my doctor's appointment, but it is something that I might have been avoiding. Right? So the idea is ultimately be specific. You know, you don't want to say I want to be better at you know, I guess what you could say is I want to be better at community right? So if you want to be better at community, that's not specific enough. You want to say, alright, what are some things that I could do to further that? Right? So maybe it's I'm going to text a person, what to think about them. And that could be as simple as that. And it just takes two seconds of like, hey, I'm thinking about you hope you're well, right kind of a thing. But that's being specific that will help you in your overall journey of, you know, working on community.

Lesley Logan 20:25  

Yeah, I think I really enjoyed that. Like, I think it's a really good place to start. Okay. 

Brad Crowell 20:32  

What about you?

Lesley Logan 20:32  

So she brought up the masculine and feminine energy for Be It Action Items. I mean, she was like, a way to start shifting into your feminine is to examine your masculine first, and we have another mirror, be it, which is really funny that these are two happening two weeks in a row. But this one is to examine three areas in your life, love, career and friendships, and start to think about your 

Brad Crowell 20:51  

Love, career and friendships. 

Lesley Logan 20:53  

Yeah, love, career and friendships, sort of think about your beliefs that are around feminine energy. Two, is to focus on what will be your values around feminine energy, meaning what foot the focus on the being. And then three, let go of the title, mom, business owner, etc. and ask, what is that vibrational frequency? And are you allowing yourself to receive that first and so there's a lot here to unpack. To me, I think it's going to take some time. But I think if you actually I'm gonna bring in Norda Kaiser's amazing little are you a star athlete or are you a fan? And so if you look at love, and you ask yourself, am I star athlete or am I a fan? Here's how do you know. A star athlete would actually look at the areas that they did really well and examine how they did that. And then they would look at the areas where they didn't feel they did well and then they would go and do practice to get stronger at that. A fan is who are, oh they missed that. Super judgmental, super excited about things when they go well, but if they don't go well, they're like, he missed that. And it's very judgy. And so just notice where you are judging yourself in the love, career and friendships and shift into being that star athlete. And that is going to actually, when you put yourself in that place, yes, it can be more masculine the way to think about taking action, but the way to actually take the action is to receive, receive feedback and support and be in a more feminine space to actually get into being an observation and not being like super judgy. So that's just that's just a way that I interpreted how to like, examine those two, those three areas. And then I loved, I really loved the part where it's like the vibrational frequency because we when we put titles like mom, entrepreneur, you know, different titles, wife, we actually often put definitions that we didn't actually take the time to create. And we put, we use the title has different definitions that the world has told us what a mom is, you know, if somebody's friends who like 

Brad Crowell 22:53  

Let's break this down, I'm a little stuck on this concept of a vibrational frequency. Ask what is that vibrational frequency? I don't know what that means. 

Lesley Logan 23:00  

Yeah. So okay. The way I understood it, the way I'm taking it is, it's a be it till you see it kind of thing. How do you want to feel, what is the energy you're going to bring to the title before you put the title in front of it. So if you are a mom, there's all this mom guilt that's going the fuck around. And it's like, as soon as you're, as soon as the baby is born and they hand you the baby and a load of mom guilt. And it's kind of crazy to me, because like, who is actually doing that? Who is actually putting the guilt on you? Right? Those people shouldn't be your friends. But if you were to take mom away, and you ask yourself, Who do I want to be in this role? And how does that, what is that frequency? So going back to Gay Hendricks because we talked about frequency with him, fear and excitement are on the same frequency. It's just that like, you actually are going from worry to joy. So if you actually can think about like, some feelings have a lower vibration, right? A lower like negative, like heavy, some things have a higher vibration. That doesn't mean you need a high vibration all the time and low, like high and low don't mean bad or good. But like, what, how do you want to feel? What is the energy you want to bring to the role that you're doing? And then you can actually put yourself in that position versus if you put the title on it sometimes we put that title comes with the definition and it comes with expectations that are not the same as what you would bring to that. So that would be the more masculine energy around like trying to be what the, what society tells you a mom is or business owner is versus like how you want to have, how you want to be at that moment and then that could allow you to be in a feminine energy around that thing or masculine depending on what you want to do. It's complicated. 

Lesley Logan 24:45  

Well, that was just a lot. I mean, definitely little more clarity on that. 

Just over here trying to define woowoo words. 

Brad Crowell 24:54  

Well, I appreciate it. 

Lesley Logan 24:55  

Everything has a frequency, though. 

Brad Crowell 24:57  

It does. 

Lesley Logan 24:57  

Yeah, and that's why I like, also, you know. 

Brad Crowell 25:01  

That you were talking about your feeling, you were talking about with the dog today when you were out. Like my own response to some people versus others. Don't even pay them any money. 

Lesley Logan 25:10  

Oh, yeah, like this one woman, we were standing in line, and there's one right behind us. And he didn't even like go to her and another woman got in line and he went right up to her. And she was like, ready to receive him. Like, just like, how does he know that she's a dog person, right? So we all are putting these frequencies out. Also, you got to notice like, sometimes if I'm in a low vibration, I am aware because I, you start to respond differently to me. And vice versa. Sometimes I've had to say, you need to leave the room because your vibrate., your energy is changing the vibe.

Lesley Logan 25:42  

Yeah, we also associate this with charisma. 

Yes, yes. 

Brad Crowell 25:47  

Yeah. Totally. 

Lesley Logan 25:48  

I'm Lesley Logan. 

Brad Crowell 25:49  

And I'm Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 25:49  

Thank you so much for listening to this episode today. How are you going to use these tips in your life we want to know. Make sure you tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. That's how the podcast grows is if you share it with a friend. We, podcast need reviews and listeners. That is currency for us. 

Brad Crowell 26:02  

So dial up your frequency and get it out there. 

Lesley Logan 26:04  

Yeah, you'll have to step into your masculine to send it out but then let your friends be in the feminine and receive. Boom, there it is.

Brad Crowell 26:11  

Solve the world's problems.

Lesley Logan 26:12  

Right there. Have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Brad Crowell 26:16  

Bye for now. 

Lesley Logan 26:18  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 

Lesley Logan 26:45  

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Brad Crowell 27:00  

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Brad Crowell 27:10  

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Are you ready to unlock your true feminine energy and embody your true values? In this episode, you'll learn how to find balance between your masculine and feminine energies and shed limiting beliefs that have been holding you back. Mary McMonagle, a renowned feminine energy coach, joins host Lesley Logan to discuss her unique approach to feminine energy. Mary shares her personal journey of healing, self-discovery, and offers practical tips and actionable steps you can use to begin your own transformation. Explore the power of feminine energy and its ability to create clarity, confidence, and fulfillment in all areas of your life.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• Identifying and embracing the benefits of leading with feminine energy.
• The importance of defining your personal values and embodying them.
• Examining the traditional roles of feminine and masculine energies.
• Identifying the potential pitfalls of giving to receive validation.
• Strategies for effectively working towards manifesting your dreams.
• Acknowledging the importance of stepping outside of comfort zones.

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Mary is an intuitive healer and feminine energy coach with a passion for guiding high-achieving women toward breaking free from their own limitations and fully embracing their true essence. As the founder of True Vibe, a compelling spiritual lifestyle brand, Mary is wholeheartedly devoted to helping individuals unlock their true potential. Mary stands out as an influential figure in the realm of intuition and feminine energy coaching. She is the host of the Living Your True Vibe Podcast. Through her podcast, she inspires countless individuals to embrace their true essence and live authentically. One of Mary's greatest strengths lies in her ability to effortlessly guide her clients from a state of overthinking to a place of heartfelt clarity, allowing them to attract secure relationships and achieve significant growth in both their businesses and personal lives. In Mary's spare time, you can find her surfing at the Jersey shore or walking her dog Emme.

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Episode Transcript:

Mary McMonagle 0:01  

I, for so long, was scared to shift in my feminine energy because I don't want to be lazy. I don't want to do anything. I have big goals, big dreams. And my process is about being grounded in your masculine energy. We need our head. We need our logic. Got to make sure our heads are screwed on and then to lead with your feminine energy so that you are in flow. You are a woman who is confident. You are a woman who is being in her vibrations.

Lesley Logan 0:28  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Hi, Be It babe. Well, I'm really excited for you to be here today. First of all, I'm just always excited for you to be here. Thank you for letting me have time in your ears. And if you're watching this on YouTube podcast then thanks for letting me have time with you in general. We had a lot of people getting really interested in feminine and masculine energies, we had Kelli Adame on and I wanted to continue the conversation and have a different perspective on feminine energies from someone who does it outside of relationship, does it more within yourself and within your work. And so when I found our guest today, I was just really excited because I think it can be really interesting, too, especially because I know so many of you are you own your own business or you want to and it's like how do I receive and also get my job done. So I have Mary on today, I'm really excited for you to hear her story. We talk a lot about journeying and in reflecting on yourself. And also different exercises you can take to just cover your values. And we use some examples about relationships. But I think these are all things you can use in your regular life and I really enjoyed her Be It Action Items. I think it's super fun to do. And also you have an exercise you can do in there that will help you understand like what your obstacles are. So here is Mary McMonagle. 

Hey, Be It babe. Well, welcome back. I'm so excited to talk to our guests today. I have been listening to her podcast this whole week and I just think you'll love her and what she has to say and she's just a true human. So Mary McMonagle is our guest today. I'm going to hope I said that name correctly. And I would love for you to tell everyone who you are and what you rock at.

Mary McMonagle 2:42  

Hey, Lesley. Hey, everyone. Yeah, you said it perfect. My name is Mary McMonagle. I am from New Jersey. I live at the Jersey Shore. I am a feminine embodiment coach. So I work with women who are in their masculine energy, meaning you are the go-getter or the achiever you like to be in control, you like to do things your own way. And I help them to shift into their feminine energy so that they can lead with their heart and soften, and be vulnerable, speak their truth. And my process is around that it's important because we need both. I, for so long, was scared to shift in my feminine energy because I don't want to be lazy. I don't want to do anything. I have big goals, big dreams. And my process is about being grounded in your masculine energy. We need our head. We need our logic. Got to make sure our heads are screwed on and then to lead with your feminine energy so that you are in flow. You are a woman who is confident. You are a woman who is being in her vibrations. So that's a little bit about me and what I do.

Lesley Logan 3:49  

That's so cool. I think we've had a couple episodes on masculine/feminine energy because some people feel like you'd be one or the other. And they don't realize you embody both throughout the day. And it's like really being able to tap into the energy that's going to best serve you in that moment. And I do think like, especially a lot of people who listen here, they work for themselves. They take care of everyone at home. It can be really hard for them to even understand how to have time to be in their feminine, you know, like how do you even not do the actionable stuff? And I think the misconception is that feminine energy isn't not actionable, but it actually is quite. 

Mary McMonagle 4:27  

Yes. Yeah and I had people in my past version of myself telling me oh, you just need to take a rest day and I would get pissed off. I'm like, well, one, don't tell me what to do. Not because I'm like, who's gonna get all these things done? So you know, if you're listening to this, that's not what feminine energy is about. It's, yes, rest days are a tool, but you'll hear me share I mean, my beliefs on feminine energy, it's not journaling, it's not yoga, it's not rest days. That's not being in your feminine energy. That is a practice and a tool to guide you into feminine energy. But I come about feminine energy is it's a place of who you are being. And a lot of us we end up shifting into becoming someone who is a woman who is more gentle with herself, a woman who is more patient, more understanding. So yeah, that's my unique stance on especially with feminine energy. Because, again, I was someone who was very much in my masculine.

Lesley Logan 5:25  

Yeah, let's talk about that. Let's talk about how, because I mean, like, I don't think you probably weren't born and your first job was coaching people on feminine energy. So like, how did you get to here and what drew you into this, because I do, I'm sure it's also not the easiest thing to say, you coach on. I'm sure people are like, okay. You know what I mean? Like, I would love the steps, please. Tell me action, step one, two, and three. So how,did, what was the before, Mary, how did you get here? 

Mary McMonagle 5:52  

Oh, all the time. So I got here because I got to a place that I said, enough is enough. If you're listening to this, if you've ever said that, you know that feeling and it does not feel good. And so for me, I got here from a place of constantly feeling like I was battling the people around me, family, society, because I was different. And you know, just like you point out, Lesley, like, oh, that's a little bit different of you know, what you're doing, as most most of us, right? And I always felt like I was battling everyone because I was, I always chose to pave my own path. Before Lesley and I hit record, we were talking about Vegas. And at one point, I lived there, because I chose that I was not in my purpose, I was not headed towards alignment of who I was supposed to become. I was in grad school, and I dropped out. So I can move to Las Vegas to become a yoga teacher and see where life took me. And so fast forward, I always felt like it was me against the world. And I got to a place where I said enough is enough. What do I need to change? This is one of my techniques and processes, which is called holding up the mirror. And I'm holding up the mirror to the three main areas of my life, which is love, career, friendships and how is that reflecting anything within me. And a big part of why I'm so passionate about the work that I do was, specifically with love, I was attracting a lot of emotionally unavailable men. I was a lot attracting a lot of men who would ghost me. I was attracting a lot of men who would hit it and quit it, let's say. And that's because I abandoned myself, I didn't fully love myself. I was saying, oh, I'm okay with just being like whatever you want me to be. And I had no sense of self-worth, no sense of self-confidence, no sense of self-love. And so through doing my own healing, I got into this place where it completely changed my life, where now I have, I have my values, my standards. And I know as a woman who I am. And I'm always learning more and more about myself. And so what the big, the big piece into doing this work was the feminine energy because one, my masculine energy, and if you're listening to this, a way to start to shift into your feminine energy is to examine your masculine energy first, because our masculine energy is protecting us, is trying to lead us, but often it's from an unhealed place that we don't feel safe within ourselves. Our masculine energy is a big piece on safety. So I first had to feel safe within myself. So then you can ease your way into your feminine energy, which is self-extraction and being vulnerable. And so throughout my own journey, I was able to really see the powerful effects of being in your feminine energy and how that has been able to guide me into my life's purpose it's been able to bring me more business it's been able to bring me fulfilling relationships.

Lesley Logan 8:59  

That's so cool. I haven't heard about it like that where you examine the masculine and kind of understand who you are being there. I also think it's very interesting, I have a girlfriend who, she's doing some life transitions and she's also spending time as she tries a different relationship she's like evaluating herself and how she is acting in that because I think it's so easy for us to go they didn't value me, they didn't do this. And I really appreciate you're like oh, they were being themselves. I wasn't valuing myself enough to attract someone else you know, we try to like change the other person versus like realize like what how we are being in a relationship and like we can change ourselves and then attract a different type of person you know, so that's, so it's just a very interesting way to go about it because it's so easy to self like to blame other people versus like examining the action steps you took to be where you are. I really want to highlight like you talked about the tools to being in your feminine but not how like that's not actually being feminine, because I do think a lot of people go, I'm doing all the things, ladies. I am doing the meditation, I am doing the mantras. I'm doing the affirmations. I am going to the yoga. I'm wearing a dress. I don't know why they're doing all the things. And I think it's interesting, because just because you're using all the tools doesn't mean you're getting there. And I wonder like, what where the disconnect might be if like everyone's it's almost like they're, the doing of all the tools is just more masculine.

Mary McMonagle 10:25  

Yes. Exactly that, Lesley. That's one of the things that I say is a lot of us are going about trying to shift more feminine energy from a masculine way even self development, personal growth, we're like, let me read all the books. Let me do all these things. And so how I describe to shift in your feminine energy, one, the masculine is doing and the feminine energy is being. So it's important to get really clear on who you want to be. But before we even go there let's look at what you even think feminine energy is because it's exactly as Lesley described it. My beliefs around feminine energy, I was, I thought feminine energy was being lazy. I thought being in your feminine energy was you view being a damsel in distress waiting for a man to come save you. And so, one, start to think of what your beliefs are around feminine energy and then focus on what will be your values around feminine energy. Meaning, focus on the being. So you're coming, if you're a business owner, or a mom, who are you being, right? You're not the business owner, you're not the mom, but what is your vibrational frequency? My being in my feminine energy is I come from a place of love. I come from a place of that I really allow myself to be a safe space for someone to come to me and be vulnerable. So that's my being. So what was a big part of me having to work on with my feminine energy? Being vulnerable. Feeling with my emotions I used, if I felt like I was going to cry, Lesley, I would bite my tongue because I didn't want to cry. And I didn't want to seem weak. But my being is someone who wanted to be a safe person for someone, but I'm not being a safe person for myself. And then it's back to the love. My being is, when I'm in my feminine energy, I'm being a place of love. So what do you need to do? You need to make sure you're filling up your cup first, right? We all know that phrase, but we all, it is so important to come from a place of love so that I can give that. So what I would open up for your listeners is to let go of the title, let go of the mom, let go of the business owner, wife, single woman et cetera. Who do you want to be? And what is that vibrational frequency and ask yourself, are you giving that? Are you allowing yourself to receive that first?

Lesley Logan 13:05  

Yeah, that's interesting. I like that's a if I'm in my feminine energy, what is that vibration? What is that energy? What is our value? I like to use that word because I think vibration people like I don't even know, like that's two, that's a double woo. Girls know the vibrate? How are you vibrating? Like, but if you think of like, what are your values? And if you're asking yourself, okay, if I embody these values what does that mean? How am I treating myself first? Like how am I that so that I can reflect those values at other people? You can be if you want to have love, but you don't love yourself, people are not going to actually receive the love that you're giving. It's not something that I find people can go, they don't love themselves. That's why their love is weird. They're just like, there's something vague or something off, there's something like not congruent in those things. And it's because it's coming from someone who hasn't yet done it for themselves yet, so you have to be that value in you. And then it will shine through in the actions that you take and even an action even in the feminine energy. Yeah, that's cool. I like that.

Mary McMonagle 14:04  

Yes, exactly that. It's like if you are a health coach, and you're telling your client that food is important and you are what you eat, but then you are going and getting fast food every single day. There is that misalignment and we can definitely, as humans, until we do this work, we seek things outwardly from other people. So a lot of us including myself, I was seeking validation from men. Why? Because I didn't get validation from my father and why that is because my masculine wound with it. Well, I shouldn't say why but what did that create within me? That created a deep masculine wound. And so yeah, it goes really deep but I love how you reflected that back because it is just so important to really look at your values and ask yourself are you being that because If you're not being it, you're not going to receive it or when you do receive it, if you haven't embodied it, you won't feel worthy enough to keep it.

Lesley Logan 15:07  

Yeah. I have a question for you. And if you don't have an exercise for this, no worries it just keep coming up, I'm remember people saying like, what are your values for business? What are your values you should have? Like, it should be like three to five, you don't have too many, because you won't remember them. And I totally agree there. But I was like, well, how do I know my values? And I laugh a little bit, because it sounds a little silly to say it out loud. But also, if you've never done the action, like never done the exercise of like really looking at what your values are, what you think, it's not like, there are certain values that I agree, we should all care for other people and all that stuff, but also what are your personal values you live your life by? How did you discover yours? Or do you have suggestions for how people can like kind of try their own on? 

Mary McMonagle 15:50  

Such a great question. I love that. So oftentimes, we figure out what our values are, by identifying what we don't want. And a past version of myself, I said, okay, I don't want a man who can't provide for me who's not going to plan the dates. Why? Because I experienced that. And I didn't like that. And but I think a lot of times, including myself, I've been there, we can get stuck in this pain. We can get stuck in this is what I don't want, this is what I experienced. And it's important to look at the pleasure and the pleasure is the opposite side of that. So that is our values. So maybe when you, for me, when I was experiencing I want, I don't want a man where I'm going to have to plan all the dates, I'm gonna have to pay for everything. So for me, the opposite of that was okay, I want a man who is going to provide who is going to lead. And then deeper in that, ask yourself, well, why is this important to me? Why is that important to me? And that is important to me, because it also allows me to feel safe, it allows me to relax, it allows me to let go of control which is again, me allowing to be in my feminine energy. So a big piece in identifying your values is okay, think about what you want, what you've experienced that you don't want to experience again? That's your pain, but then move towards the pleasure and look at your list of values. And then again, ask yourself, identify, okay, am I embodying that a big piece of my values is, at least for what I want to receive in a man is a man who is secure within himself, he is emotionally available. So, and I have a pattern. Again, this isn't (inaudible) tangible, but start to notice what patterns you have within yourself, a.k.a. what are you frequently attracting in your life? And this could be, these patterns show up in different ways. So you might have a pattern of receiving a lot of money and doing really well in your business. And then you might have a lot of slow months. To me that's a pattern of you have yet to feel worthy to hold on to that money and to feel safe with money. I have a pattern where I would attract emotionally unavailable men because me as the healer, the coach, I'm like, let me fix you let me like show you I'm powerful.

Lesley Logan 18:19  

Yeah. 

Mary McMonagle 18:19  

So for me a big value is okay, this man is emotionally available and not meaning that he has to be my coach or healer, but I can be vulnerable and express myself. 

Lesley Logan 18:33  

Since we're talking a little bit about dating, the best advice I've ever given. When I was single, there's a couple pieces of advice that were like just stellar. One was how red is his flag. Because my therapist was like you there was red flags at the beginning of the relationship that you ignored. So you need to go back and reflect and like think about each day and think about the red flag and think about why you ignored it. So that you can spot it as you're dating. And so don't repeat because like I was dating the same person, just a different looking person, but like the same type of person. So that was one piece of advice that was really, really great. And it allowed me to understand it's another way of looking at values. It's like what do I need out of a relationship? Oh, that's a red flag for me. And instead of running away and just like going uh, you're out of here. I could actually go you know, what you just said that like makes me like, you know, just makes me like pick up a little bit go, so you explore it, can you tell me a little bit more what you mean by that word that you just said and it is at the very least educational informative for them. So and also at like, time saver for me. The other piece of advice is to go back to like, you don't want to coach them. I was working with this trainer and I my now husband had texted me about like his yoga practice and Pilates instructor. And he said if you want this guy to date you you are not allowed to teach him how to do the thing he struggles with in yoga. You can go to yoga with him, but you don't teach him. I have a lot of powerful women as best friends in my life and they are just like, they are amazing at what they do. They're even great to beat in their energies like feminine, like they can navigate really well. And they had partners who like just didn't grow with them. And now that they're out there dating, they're, they've been on some dates where people have said some things, and they just were like this, like, you know, you can, I'm here to listen to your problem. But as a coach, I don't want to coach you, because it's not sexy. It's not attractive to me. And so I think it's really cool. Everyone who's listening, whether you're in a relationship or wanting to be in one, it's just reflecting that you just because you are something and in the world and be famous and known for it doesn't mean you have to be that in the relationship. And that being that in the relationship is what's taking you out of your feminine to be able to receive anything amazing from that relationship.

Mary McMonagle 20:46  

Yes, I love that. Because adding on to that, it's like if you look at the yin and the yang, you are taking up all of the yang, you are not allowing any there to be any yin. So how I do view this work, which is important, because I think there's a lot of people out there who talk about feminine energy and don't really understand the roots of it. I come from a rooted place of evolutionary psychology. So and let's be gone. Continue with this relationship example. And based on evolutionary psychology, men, they are the leaders, the protectors, they want to be in charge. And us women, we are the nurturers where we're caring, we're softening but that doesn't mean that we can't be boss as bitches over here and have get stuff done. So like your example, Lesley, it's, if you're showing a man of here, let me show you how to do this yoga pose, often we then switch roles because your events were coming from a place of mothering. Oh, here honey, let me show you how to do this. And I know this because I've duh, God, I used to be a mom to so many men, it's crazy. So and this is important to look at in your life is okay where am I being a little bit mothering because and especially with men, you know, you might say, oh, like I can show you how to do this pose. But for men, it isn't in there, based on evolutionary psychology based off of the way their bodies are designed and function, it's important for them to be able to be lead and be in control. But that's not to say, you know, like, we don't have to be to the extreme. Again, I'm all about balance. Maybe your partner asks you to show him the yoga pose, like show him the yoga pose. But I think a lot of us women, including my past version of myself, is we sometimes seek to prove our worth, hey, look, I know this, look how amazing I am. Right? 

Lesley Logan 22:46  

I think that energy of what you're coming about is what you're getting at. Like, if you're coming at it from like, look at me, I'm so amazing. This is why you're gonna love me because I can teach you this thing. Versus like, okay, I have this knowledge. I can help you in this moment. But we don't have to go all the way into it all the time. Because it can change the dynamics of the relationship and like what and if and really I think it comes down to like, how do you feel like if you feel like you're giving that to that person, whether it's a partner or a friend, if you feeling like you're able to receive equally, that it's fine. It's different when you feel like it's draining you. And you're not getting anything back. Yeah.

Mary McMonagle 23:26  

Yes, yeah. Because and I'm sure if you're listening to this, can you think of a time where maybe you're giving to a friend, a family member and just giving, giving and giving? And all of a sudden, you're saying I feel drained, I feel not valued. I don't feel appreciated. Because well, one, you probably are giving from a place of lack and scarcity of like, let me help this person because yeah, I love them. But actually, you're trying to receive some sort of validation. And so when we give, it's important that we are then allowing ourselves to receive most of the times you're giving and you feel a lack, and you'd be that's because you're not getting that validation. So it's important when you are giving to ask yourself, okay, well, why is this important to give? Yeah, I want to help this person. I love them. But what are you also looking to receive from that as well?

Lesley Logan 24:19  

Yeah, that's very, that's very true. We coach Pilates instructors on their business and we talked about how like, if they are feeling resentment from their clients, it's because there's a lack, there's a discrepancy in what they're charging versus what they're giving. So they are giving more than they're receiving in exchange with money. And the only reason it can be money is because this person cannot teach you back. Like there, it's not a barter system. This is a client and the only way your energy gets refilled is if the exchange is equal value. So I love that you pointed out, it's like whatever you're giving, it's great. But before you give it it's like having an idea of what you expect to receive in return. What a brilliant thing because it allows you to measure if it's the right relationship of giving, and you know, like, I'm a big fan of like being very generous and like in giving what you can all the stuff but also, there, you do need to have like a measuring tool of like the of the receiving of that if that is a great place to be giving, or can you be giving somewhere else? So really cool. Okay, Mary, you know, you share the journey of you living Vegas and kind of figuring out what you're doing and stepping into this coaching role and what you're doing, what are you most excited about right now? Because I know that you are someone who is always growing. And, so what's what's the most exciting thing that you're being in right now?

Mary McMonagle 25:38  

Oh, okay. I love this question. So I'm going to share with you last two weeks ago, I was at a retreat, and it completely changed my life. And something so simple, was one of the speakers he talked about what are your dreams, and he had us write down our dreams. And I started crying because I realized, my dreams are really big. And I don't talk about them enough. So I'm going to share with you some of the things that I wrote down because I know they are going to happen. But I also had a realization the next day is oh, the reason I don't actually share, talk about my dreams is because I am a go-getter. And if I share or talk about it, then that means I'm going to have to think of a way and a plan and an action to get there. But if I'm coming from my heart, and I'm coming that I will trust that things, I will take the right actions and it will unfold in time. So what I am working on is why I'm gonna speak my manifestations. My dreams is becoming a bestselling author, is my podcast impact millions, is being a world-renowned speaker, is starting a nonprofit for animal rescue, is to serve at amazing surf spots, eat amazing vegetarian meals, help my family financially, and there's more. But so the reason I'm sharing that is because I invite you to open up within yourselves and start to speak about, okay, these things are scary and far away. But that's what I'm working on. And then on a smaller scale, just making as much impact as possible, providing as much value as I can being of service, and really continuing to be vulnerable with myself. One of the best feelings is when someone comes to me and they're like, I've never shared this with anyone. And it's and it's deep and you can tell that they finally are start starting to, to release it and tap into freedom. And to me that's one of the most fulfilling things about what I do. My energy allows people to do that, because I do that for myself. So that's one of my (inaudible) words. 

Lesley Logan 27:45  

That's super fun. I like that you shared that because I do think a lot of people don't share their dreams. And it's funny like when you do say them out loud people, whether you want to think about the universe conspired in this way, they do see that's conspired for you. Like it does make it happen, you know, so like, anytime I've ever said the dream actually out loud to people, not just to my husband, but to actual, like random strangers, it has all come true. It's all managed to make itself happen. And I don't know that I can recreate it if I want to do so like I think it's I think that's really cool. Thank you for sharing that with us. That's really a lot of fun. And I do think all of those things will happen I hope especially the rescue, the animal rescue. In my and like I said most people can't follow the other like, rescue dog things on social. I follow all of them in Las Vegas. I follow all of them. I heard all of them. I leave comments. I share all the time. Like I cannot have any more dogs, currently have three. And we promised ourselves to be a two-dog household when one of ours passes. She's 14. So don't like I'm not being dark that she's just older and it's going to happen guys. So we're like we're gonna do two, but oh my god, there's this like cutie yesterday. I'm like, I just need a rescue. It's really what I need. I need a place where I could just put all these dogs. So yeah, so I hope that happens. Okay, we're gonna take a brief break. And we're gonna find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, listen to your podcasts, all those things. 

Okay, Mary. So you work with people on then embodying their feminine energy. How do they find you? Where can they get the best information? What do you got for us?

Mary McMonagle 29:22  

Yeah, so I'm over on Instagram @marymc4. If you go on my Instagram and right immediately my bio, there's a quiz, a free quiz, which is do you lead with your feminine energy or do you lead with your masculine energy? Because maybe you're listening to this and you're like, hmm, this sparks something within me. And I love this quiz. Because depending on what you get, the quiz is going to show you okay, maybe you lead with your masculine energy, how does that benefit you? Because it does, and then the areas of what I call the areas of improvement, okay, how can I start to trust a little bit more how can I start to shift into my feminine energy So, this quiz is going to help you identify that. So definitely go check it out. And you know, if you feel called to share your results with me send me a message. I would love to hear what you get.

Lesley Logan 30:11  

Awesome in your podcast is the True Vibe podcast.

Mary McMonagle 30:15  

Yes, Living Your True Vibe.

Lesley Logan 30:17  

Living Your True Vibe. You guys, it's really great. I really have enjoyed the episodes I've listened to. So lots of little takeaways and nuggets. I am curious. I have just started the one where you cut your leg open so I'm a little bit nervous. Like how did your leg heal?

Mary McMonagle 30:34  

That's been a journey. Check that out guys. And this is real time. I'm currently still healing. I cut my leg open on a retreat in Mexico. Literally cut it.

Lesley Logan 30:46  

Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, that's one of the, I joked, we're going off to bleed our retreat in Cambodia. We're getting some of the shots just because when you travel a lot, like I just want, I'm like, I don't want the flu. I'm not here to get COVID. I'm here to teach. And I was like, oh, I'm due for my tetanus and no one goes I don't recommend you get them all three today. I recommend you get two and then come back for the other one. We didn't come back for our tetanus shot and I remember like Brad like slipped he almost (inaudible) I'm like is that metal because we didn't do our tetanus shots. Like this theory of anything with metal because it's like oh my god we have outdated tetanus. So there's a lot of fear around cutting. So I hope you're healing quickly. So okay, before I let you go, bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps you can take to be it till you see it. What do you have for us?

Mary McMonagle 31:38  

I shared with you I feel called in this moment. I have a bunch. But I feel called in this moment. I know there's someone out there that maybe when I spoke my dreams and they're big and might seem scary. Just for today, I invite you to think about what is something that you've been craving? Maybe it's food but what are you what is your soul craving? Something specific. Maybe you've been wanting to go for a walk, maybe you've been wanting to check out a new spot, maybe even wanting to get dressed up and take yourself out? What are you not doing that you're, that you've been avoiding? And I invite you to go do that. Go get yourself go on Instagram live and do the thing because then then the next piece and that is understand what you will be working through. You might be working through some discomfort, some getting outside your comfort zone. Going live, you might be working on getting through those insecurities. So where are you holding yourself back? A quick example of this. I just had a client text me this morning because her YouTube video is going viral. She went from 100 YouTube subscribers to 2000 overnight and she almost didn't post that video that she made. And I was like, well, why are you not gonna post it? She's like, I feel really insecure. I'm like, that's exactly why you need to post it. And just by her getting over that insecurity, I'm not saying you're gonna go viral overnight, but she, after that, after she posted them like how do you feel? She's like, I feel free. Because you're no longer letting your insecurities hold you back. So where in your life today can you do something that you're avoiding? And ask yourself this. This is really important. How will you know you are successful? So I asked her that. How will you know you've been successful when you posted this YouTube video? Well, I won't feel afraid. I'll feel good about it. She posted it. And instead of being insecure, because we worked through it, she felt excited. So how will you know you've been successful? And if you need to dive deeper, what is that, what does success mean to you? Because you might say, well, if I reach out to that person who's been on my mind about being a client, I know I'll be successful. And that success is for you. I invite you to say that success is you getting outside your comfort zone. So that's my steps. 

Lesley Logan 34:02  

Super cool. I also like figuring out, I like that her version of success wasn't like, I'll get 2000 subscribers. It was how she would feel and I think that's the most like that's a really great takeaway. This is really fun. Thank you, Mary, so much for having us here. Y'all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Mary, tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it because there's some nuggets in here that maybe someone in your life has just been like nagging at and just overdoing things and maybe just needed to be reminded that there's a lot of places they can lead from doesn't have to be from the doing. So thank you, Mary, and until next time y'all, Be It Till You See It. 

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Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah.

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. 

Lesley Logan 0:05  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:46  

Hello, Be It babe, how are you? Happy Friday. So today I'm actually in Connecticut in an incredible room, which I'll talk about with you in just a moment when I get to my wins. But first, I'm going to celebrate your wins. But in case this is your first time being to the Be It Pod, the reason I do this short episode every single Friday, is not as a brag sesh, it is a way for us all to take a moment to see that if you are having a down day you can hear other people's wins and realize like, there's room for you. There's no abundance pie that like every person gets a slice in yours, you get the leftovers. We are actually all surrounded by things we have been able to do that our wins and shit that's not going well. But if we only focus on the shit, then guess what you feel like you're just about shit. If you focus on what you're winning, you can actually see that there's a possibility, a path forward for you. And when you see other people having wins, it really does affect you in the most amazing, amazing, amazing way because you can celebrate their wins, you are creating space for your own as well. You know, it's not the cliche of like just women supporting women. It's like holy fuck, that's a win for them, I had that win yesterday. Sometimes we don't see our own wins until we see it in someone else. So that's why we do these. So I share a win of yours and a win of mine, and then we have an affirmation. 

Lesley Logan 2:00  

So, Ainsley Walker. I'm getting lots of great mat work practicing with different eLevate members and having fun exploring each move and geeking out. It's wonderful. Really starting to question my time, how and what I do with it, wanting to explore this more, meeting my own needs of what that means. I have another head cold, second one this month, but only the second in two years. Rather than battle through I cancelled my clients this morning to take the pressure off so I can still go and meet two friends and Pilates people in London later. But what was such a win was I didn't procrastinate over should I? Shouldn't I? I just knew I needed a chilled morning so I could show up for my classes tomorrow. Made an appointment to see a nutritionist who was also an eLevate member, being clear with people and clients this week and adhering to my boundaries both personally and professionally, and signed up for the local village fair again this year. This time will write down all the steps needed to prep for it and gather help. Excited for the lighter, longer days. 

Lesley Logan 2:00  

So do you hear how many wins she's got in there? She was able to celebrate a win in a head cold. And also really evaluate her time, that is a win. I know I'm guilty of this where like I'm like, oh my god, I'm wasting some time or I don't like how I fit in this time and then we get hard on ourselves instead of going what a win. I am thinking about how I want to spend my time better. So, so proud of you, Ainsley. Way to go. You've been in Agency for a while and I love having you in eLevate. I know the other eLevators are loving it too. 

Lesley Logan 3:20  

Okay, Stacey Extence, she's an Agency member, we've known her for many, many years even before she was a Pilates teacher and I love seeing her name in the wins section. So here we go. I'm making steps towards having a Joe's Gym class. I'm teaching a mother/daughter duet. Mother is intro system and daughter is a more advanced practitioner but 33 weeks pregnant. So I'm teaching them at the same time but on different equipment and at different capacities. I've been learning a lot about teaching someone who's pregnant, each week watching classes about prenatal and postnatal clients. After the first lesson last week I learned that I can vocalize multiple exercises to the daughter so that she was moving more and not doing too many reps of one exercise. The second lesson which happened last night went so much better with that slight adjustment. They booked their next lesson with me and I'm thrilled with this chance to help them further their Pilates journey. I'm also thrilled that they're helping me on my teaching journey. That's right, Stacey. For those who don't know what Joe's Gym is, it's basically just an open type of Pilates class. We teach this a lot and for Agency members, it's something I teach my eLevate members to do because it actually is a great way, it's a great skill set to have as a teacher, you can actually help couples or friends who are at different levels or needs in their life at the same time without having dozens of the same piece of equipment. 

Lesley Logan 4:29  

Last one is Ali. She's an Agency member. I realized that I had a target monthly earnings goal and whilst I haven't made it consistently, I missed celebrating the month when I earned it. The win here is twofold. One, to celebrate. Two, I've now caught up with my accounting and there's an automated report in Xero. So I can see at a glance the numbers! Going to track this! Next step is usage report. Congratulations, Ali. Oh my gosh, congratulations. This is so important, you guys. One, I love this. I have to highlight this because she didn't celebrate what happened. So even though it didn't happen this month, she celebrated when it did happen, like, way to go. And also, guys, the more you can know your numbers loves, the better it is. And so there is a sales number, which is what most people focus on. But usage is so important. And we'll talk about this inside of Agency. And so because usage is actually how you know you have sales coming in and people always like, I have to have a membership to have automated income. No, you don't. No, you don't. I have an automated income without ever having a membership for my clients. And there's so many reasons why I wouldn't let people have a membership for brick and mortar. 

Lesley Logan 5:27  

All right, a win of mine. So this is an interesting win because it's happening as we speak, as I like, talk to you, I'm putting myself in this room with a bunch of other business owners and the purpose of this, this particular one, the way we put ourselves in, is to really take our business to another level that we've achieved most of the goals that we've had for ourselves, maybe not in the timeline that we wanted, but we have this bigger goal of ourselves, and I'll share that goal with you later on down the road. I'm not gonna share with you now. But just know that this particular goal is requiring Brad and I to become an elevated version of ourselves and we are truly being it until we see it as we're doing this. We're putting in the cell ourselves in this room. That is scary. Because it's interesting to think about something that both you want and holy moly, how am I going to get there? Like, it's one of those like, who am I to have this goal? And it also sometimes can be intimidating because sometimes I'm like that I'm just a Pilates instructor, you know, and I have to remind myself that I'm not just anything. And in this room, while I may be the Pilates instructor, and I may not know the answers to the questions I'm asking, I actually know a ton about the answers to the questions that they're asking. And I have both the pros and cons of everything we've done that I love to share to the Agency members, I'm putting myself in this room where I'm like, I might be the weird one. I might be the weird one. But also like, I'm gonna benefit from this space and get the answers to my questions. And people benefit from me being in that space too, because I can provide my gifts. And so this is one of those wins, where I'm celebrating the act of doing something really, really scary. And it doesn't, it's not actually finished yet, this particular be it till you see it moment is going to be years long. Hopefully not year long, but years long. And it's really challenging to become a different leader, a different boss, a different teacher, a different friend, a different wife, a different co-worker, like all of these things, and making changes like that in a business and in your life are hard. So hard. But I'm super excited to make them and I'm super excited to be in this room and I can't wait to share with you what I've learned as I'm able to. So how's that for a win? Is that a fun win? Again here to share with you like wins or not, I made $11,000 in one post on social media, which by the way is probably like, not even true. 

Lesley Logan 7:55  

Okay, so, all right, the affirmation for us to repeat. My weirdness is wonderful. My weirdness is wonderful. My weirdness is wonderful. My dear, your weirdness is wonderful. My weirdness is wonderful. We are all, we're like weird in the best ways and so may you be weird. May you celebrate your wins. Send them to us so we can share them on the Be It Pod and until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 8:20  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 

Lesley Logan 8:49  

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Brad Crowell 9:04  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 9:09  

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Brad Crowell 9:13  

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Lesley Logan 9:20  

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Brad Crowell 9:23  

Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.

Brad Crowell and Lesley Logan share enlightening takeaways from confidence expert Simone in this compelling episode. They explore how confidence can be intentionally built through facing challenges and adopting actionable strategies. Tune in to learn about embracing failures, transforming mindsets, and using these experiences to cultivate a more confident and self-loving approach to life.

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• Why acceptance and self-love is the foundation for true confidence. 

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00  

She actually believes that failure is actually an important part of how we grow and it's not a stop sign I love that failure is actually not a stop sign of some people come like we'll have an obstacle on the go oh, this is a sign that I'm not supposed to doing the thing? No, it's actually the thing you have to learn how to overcome to get to the next bucket level sometimes. Welcome to the be it till you see it podcast, where we talk about taking messy action knowing that perfect is boring. I must say Logan Paul is instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained 1000s of people around the world. And the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week my guests will bring bold executable intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it it's a practice not a perfect LET'S GET STARTED Welcome back to the beat till you see it interview recap where my co host and life Brad and I are going to dig into the positively competent combo I had with Simone Cunego in our last episode if you haven't yet listened to that one you should listen to it now. I'm gonna say positively competent combo I had with Simone Cunego did get on that can we just say that those words together positively competent combo with Simone Koneko. Like there's it's like one of those like, She sells seashells down by the seashore. I know you should have heard me yesterday when I was filming tutorials for the barrel stack okay, I had to keep saying see shaper. See shaper see shaper and it was really hard not to say shaper. Like you will say like you say it like I'm Leslie Logan here to talk about criss cross on the sea shaper and then it's like the C shape or the t shirt you just keep saying it starts to blend into su words. Hi guys anyways, today

Brad Crowell 1:59  

it was a third take through that intro by the way.

Lesley Logan 2:02  

I was reading the wrong one slang. It's okay listen to the outtakes at the end. You'll hear it out here. So today is May 9 And it's all last sock Memorial Day. This is when you do due to or what's a memorial song?

Brad Crowell 2:18  

Do I have no idea what immortal Okay,

Lesley Logan 2:21  

so the origin of last sock Memorial Day is as big a mystery as the whereabouts are the socks. The day is meant to memorialize. But socks have been around for centuries. And it's clear Americans love their socks and 2018 in the US alone we purchased over $11 billion in socks. Most men wear socks every day including those particularly fashionable guys who wear socks with sandals Brad what hardly oh my gosh, you guys are ugly. We're so lucky. We know he wears socks with his sandals all all the time his socks and stocks all the time. So I believe rock industry continues to grow in sales and expand in variety. Gone are the days of the one color one style sock Hello

Brad Crowell 2:57  

Who does that boring

Lesley Logan 2:58  

I know I'm back to crew socks that I love it. Today socks are multiple purposes and are manufactured perform based on neat of course the dress the trouser sock is neutral colors exist for professionals, or fancy occasions for the markets for fun and functional socks are making a name for themselves. There are themed graphics like it keeps going I have Star Wars I'm going to skip to the end. So apparently they did a survey. And it said that the average person loses 1.3 SOCKS per month what that is over 15 SOCKS per person per year. So you can see that this is universally hits home and it causes us all distress when sock goes missing major distress. In fact, today we stand together to pay tribute to our deeply departed socks and this is where the song would come on. And

Brad Crowell 3:42  

it would be amazing because it causes so much stress that I decided with the help of my favorite chat bot to write an ode to my last suck. Okay, so here we go Jeffro should be singing this Oh noble sock, vanishing into the abyss of the laundry is dark realm. Once snugly paired now solitary you wander alone, a solitary helm in the labyrinth of mismatched pairs your absence leaves a longing overwhelm

Lesley Logan 4:14  

long and overwhelmed. That's how it finished up on chat TV.

Brad Crowell 4:18  

Ah Hey, who said that?

Lesley Logan 4:21  

I don't know who your favorite is. I that's what I know. That's all you guys I don't even I don't even use a chatbot I don't I don't use I don't have any AI. That's what my team is for. Okay, back to the regular scheduled program upcoming events and travel get ready get your get your pen and paper out and paper out OPC summer camp is less than a month away June one and we are hoping for the biggest biggest summer camp Edberg. If you don't have to attend live you can watch the replays. So what you can do to go is go to opc.me/events OPC that means slash events plural and you will see we have 14 events and you can buy them ala carte. You can buy a day pass or you buy both day passes. The savings is On the day pass, I will tell you that at any rate, I'm teaching one event and we have 13 other teachers from around the world. I'm so excited. We have a variety of classes and workshops and all different pieces of equipment, spinning different topics we've got, like Heather Ingram is doing Empower Matt. It's a resiliency mat class for those who have who had breast cancer or have are going through it. I'm super excited about that. We have Aaron Donohue doing a pelvic floor mat class. Super stoked about that. We also have workshops on knee pain, we have one a chair class, a couple reformer classes, a Tower of Power with the head tower power, happy hour with Lisa, I can keep going, it's gonna be great. We have 1414. So seven classes, seven workshops, over two days, come alive for the party. Watch the replays whenever you want. But you got to buy them before they go into full price. I'm just saying. So obviously that means slash events June 1 And second is going to be when we go live. Yeah.

Brad Crowell 5:58  

And if you sign up for any of them, whether you pick ala carte, or you buy the full day pass, you actually have access to the replay indefinitely. Yeah. in perpetuity, in perpetuity forever ever. For Finiti Cambodia

Lesley Logan 6:15  

earlybird is happening as this is happening. So if you are on the waitlist, got the email, and if you aren't on the waitlist, you don't get it. So you have to wait. Well,

Brad Crowell 6:24  

if you want to get on the waitlist right now go to Leslie logan.co/retreats. With portal that's plural. So that's

Lesley Logan 6:31  

gonna be our February event because October is very sold out. Yeah, first of all down super not an option. So February

Brad Crowell 6:39  

in and yeah, February, we're gonna go the 25th I think for 23 to 28, something like that. It's the end of Feb. It's

Lesley Logan 6:46  

after it's after the Lunar New Year. So you know, we'll be past the high season of travel and

Brad Crowell 6:52  

it's gonna be great. I'm really, really fired up and we're gonna have an amazing group at that point in the year as well. Next up, we got Summer Tour summer.

Lesley Logan 7:01  

We are doing a summer tour. We're not doing the West Coast tour. This time we're doing the summer we're doing I don't know it was the Midwest. Yeah. And I'm super excited because I've been back to Milwaukee since 2018. I

Brad Crowell 7:12  

know it's been a minute and in fact, you've never done Minnesota and we're looking at I've never been to Minnesota. I got locked in. It's not confirmed yet, but we're working on it literally right now.

Lesley Logan 7:22  

We're gonna get back to Chicago for the first time since 2018.

Brad Crowell 7:25  

Yeah, this time we're gonna hit Cleveland, but on the summer tour, and then we're gonna go south back through the Midwest. So we're looking at like, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, St. Louis, Kansas City. Yeah, we're even looking at Colorado Springs, y'all.

Lesley Logan 7:41  

Yeah. So at any rate, you want to go to opc.me/door? Yeah, get

Brad Crowell 7:45  

yourself on the waitlist for the tour. We're going to start talking about it and opening up the doors for that in earnest after summer camp. So yeah, first is summer camp. After that. We'll do the Summer Tour. Yeah.

Speaker 1 7:55  

Barrels flashcard. Oh, my goodness. So actually

Brad Crowell 7:59  

lots of progress.

Lesley Logan 8:00  

Here's the thing. This might be the last chance get on the waitlist, because based on one's is coming out and our presale is very, very, very sorted. It could be happening as we speak. I'm not really certain on that. So here's the deal. You want to go to opc.me/flashcard waitlist, it's a lot. It's a mouthful. Ready. opc.me/flashcard waitlist, all in a word. So only people on the waitlist will get the presale price. The pre sale price is the best price you don't want to miss out on that.

Brad Crowell 8:28  

Oh, this is a new exciting news that les is looking at me like do we want to talk about this? Maybe maybe not.

Lesley Logan 8:36  

No, I'm skipping it. We're skipping it. There's other people who need to hear about that first. Okay.

Brad Crowell 8:40  

All right. Well, we have something very exciting, well, secret that we will share

Lesley Logan 8:45  

later. Because come back maybe next week, but not just me doing that.

Brad Crowell 8:48  

Alright, so lastly, but

Lesley Logan 8:51  

not leastly is the elevate my mentorship program for amazing teachers

Brad Crowell 8:57  

to say lastly, but not less late. Oh.

Lesley Logan 9:01  

All right. All right. So if you look at the OBC summer camp, all the teachers have been through my mentorship program. So they will to see how they teach and like their personalities and their styles. And I couldn't pick every grad. So for the grads listening, it's not like I skipped you. There. I only do so many. But I I was able to see the teaching, and I was able to at that time pick them. I'm not saying that. That's why you should elevate you should do elevate because it makes you fucking badass. Yeah, and I actually just got a message from one of our grads who was kind of treated like a little bit like crap at work. And she actually took a moment and asked for a meeting. And then she asked what she want that meeting. She got what she wanted that meeting and she was able to remember like a year before being so scared to have a meeting. And now she's like comparing herself to herself. It's like, I know I'm good. And so if you are wanting competence in your teaching and your power and your awesomeness, and you are already a comprehensively to mean teacher, go to Leslie logan.co/ew. Leslie Logan, that CEO slash Ew, that's going to get you on the waitlist. The people on the waitlist are the ones who and we invited to apply. And we're not probably doing applications until after summer camp to be completely honest. I'm I'm 100% positive about that. But we have to fill 2025 early so you guys can plan your life around this amazing experience. Yeah. And it's virtual my mentorship is virtual you can come in person around for is like all up a whole bunch of people out there all the time. I love it so much. So anyways,

Brad Crowell 10:37  

we also people who are all over the world as literally not an option to come in person. So yeah, it was designed to be virtual. Just we got a couple of people who were like, Can I drop in?

Lesley Logan 10:45  

And then we're like, Sure. And then people just keep coming. And now it's like, it's amazing. We know a guy named Kevin around the corner who Airbnbs his place. So we met Kevin, we don't we actually have never met Kevin but okay, so we thought we gotta get into some Alan. But before we do that, do we have an audience? Question?

Brad Crowell 11:02  

We sure do. This is from Daniella on Instagram, on the ad G. Is there a cheap reformer that you can recommend? Dr. Leslie? No, there isn't.

Lesley Logan 11:15  

There's not there is not there isn't? Here's the deal. If you are looking for appeal applies equipment you can afford. Check out a window chair, check out a spine corrector check out the ControlLogix line. The spine corrector is about $700 When a chair I want to say is like 1200 and might be a little bit better. Look, I don't know what the price is already done this exact moment. But yes, that's still expensive. But it is a piece of code that doesn't take up a lot of space. You can have an amazing workout on it. It will support your mat practice. And it's not for

Brad Crowell 11:41  

rolling it around. It doesn't break either. Yeah. You

Lesley Logan 11:45  

know, and so the best performer is a ControlLogix reformer. And then there's other reforms that are also amazing. But any reformer, that's really going to get you the results you want isn't me over $3,000 I'm sorry. I hate to break it to you. That's just how it goes. They're hard to make they have hundreds of parts. Like it's just a complicated and when there is a cheaper form are out there that you're seeing, like Costco or some like that, it's probably doesn't have springs, it probably doesn't have the weight limit. Most easel springs, right? It's not going to have the foot bar that moves around. So check out my video on YouTube about choosing a home or farmer and you will hear why I cannot tell you about a cheaper farmer that I would ever recommend. Yeah,

Brad Crowell 12:27  

so just go to a search lesson Logan home reformer or we'll put it in the show. It's

Lesley Logan 12:34  

a YouTube video. So thank you for your question, Daniela. I'm so sorry. I'm the bearer of bad news. But also, you know what one of my clients she has a tower and a wooden chair in her entryway of her townhouse. And she's had an a spine corrector now she misses reformer. Absolutely. She actually doesn't have space for it. So this is what we're doing. And it's really quite exciting. You'd be surprised what you can get out of having a spine Correct. I have another client that I teach online who only has a mat and I want to cheer and you know, like it's great. It's amazing. We work out every week together. So anyway, thanks for asking good questions. Send your questions in via pod we will answer them here and and that's that's that heard it

Brad Crowell 13:14  

here first, peeps. Okay. Now let's talk about Simone. Can I go Simone, a keynote speaker and author of the extraordinary an ordinary you is renowned for her journey from CPA to a dedicated advocate for women with experiences in teaching medical sales and charitable works. She uses her diverse background of inspire and empower confidence in others. Simona is also the host of the daughter dears podcast, furthering her impact on personal development. I just want to do a brag for Simone. She summited Mount Kilimanjaro. Kilimanjaro, the big one. It's pretty cool.

Lesley Logan 13:50  

It's really cool. Also, I was on the daughter ders podcast. So I would go listen to my episode. It's a great way to break into the daughter dears podcast, I look got to talk to her daughter Olivia. And, and also Simone and Nate has asked really great questions, and we had a really great conversation. So highly recommend that you go listen to that episode. And then you can see if you really like it. I think her podcasts is really great. I love this a mother daughter podcast, and they talk about really amazing things someone has just, she's also just freaking cool. And she has the coolest tennis shoes. Oh, it just came out. Yeah, it just came out

Brad Crowell 14:28  

the episode. I'm gonna put the I'm going to put the link to that in the show notes.

Lesley Logan 14:33  

While he's doing that. Here's the deal. I loved that she is a very big believer that it's okay to change your mind. I think that's really something we we I for fucking sure have a really hard time doing this. Brad has been the reason why all like, he taught me how to cancel plans. He's like I said, but we told him to do that. He's like, Well, we changed our mind. We can't we're not or we aren't doing the thing that was over there. So we can't do the thing with them that's over there. So it's gonna have Change. And I'm like, oh my god, people get mad. So anyways, I just absolutely love that she, that she said this. And I think it's a great point for all of us. But until I see it people to remember that it's okay to change your mind. And trying different things also means that she has to fail and some of it and I think that that's also a really cool thing, you're gonna fail forward, really, especially if you learn from it. She actually believes that failure is actually an important part of how we grow. And it's not a stop sign. I love that. Failure is actually not a stop sign of some people come like we'll have an obstacle on the go, oh, this is a sign that I'm so busy doing the thing? No, it's actually the thing you have to learn how to overcome to get to the next fucking level, sometimes, you know what I mean? People Oh, door closed at the sign of necessity after that thing. You know what I mean? It's like, no one thinks about that with dating. By the way, no one goes up that day, it was honestly me alone for my date set. So that means I'm not meant to be with anybody. You know what I mean? But we think about that with anything that we want to do in our life, or like, Oh, no one responded to my post. So I'm not good enough, whatever. And it's like that, what are you talking about? These are not stop signs. These are just feedback. And she also mentioned that we should embrace failure. And to understand failures don't equal your worth. I love this. Because all the people that we admire, who are amazing business, people, whatever, they all fail on a lot of things. One of our coaches, literally coaches, people on book titles, and all these things. And he talks endlessly about how he titled one of his books terribly wrong.

Brad Crowell 16:36  

And he argued, he argued for this title that he has now concluded later is terribly wrong. It's terribly wrong. Like he was convinced this is going to be the best amazing title ever.

Lesley Logan 16:48  

Yeah, more or less. And so but he has used it as a way to help others not have that same thing. So it's kind of we, you know, these fail, we should call them other things. This is some words that need rebranding. And failure is one of them. It's a sliding step. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not the marketing people here. But I'm just saying it needs a new thing. Well, I'll your needs a PR person,

Brad Crowell 17:17  

we need a PR person for failure. Alright, here's what I really loved. She was talking about Kilimanjaro. Actually, really, really fascinating side note, she said that we apparently have 6000, roughly 6000 thoughts a day and 80% of them are negative what the eff

Lesley Logan 17:33  

I know. And also most of them are repetitive. They're the same thoughts as before. I'm like, who's counting these thoughts? Ding, ding. And also, do you ever wonder like, okay, as the overachiever in the room, the recovering one? I'm like, a bit, you have more?

Brad Crowell 17:49  

A bit, you have more negative thoughts than you know,

Lesley Logan 17:52  

I'm not. I'm not fighting for those. But that's funny.

Brad Crowell 17:55  

She said, when she was climbing Kilimanjaro. First off, it was like, a process to even get there and the mental battle to you know, write off the people who are who are basically challenging her. Or do you think you're actually going to make it? You know, like, yeah, I fucking do. Why do you think I'm going to I'm just going to do this. So I can go to the base. But

Lesley Logan 18:16  

what needs me fucking train on proper responses in life? Just yeah, that's here's the thing. When someone gets married, you don't have to ask them if they're having a baby. When someone said they're gonna climb a mountain. You don't have to ask them. Do you think you're gonna fucking finish it? Yeah, what happens? If

Brad Crowell 18:30  

you follow? It says I'm going to open a Pilates studio. Do your friends go? Really? That's so risky. Are you going to do that? Yeah. Well, yes. If they say that,

Lesley Logan 18:37  

then and it's one or the other. If that is you, if I just said, if I just said a response that you think you've done, first of all, give yourself permission to never do it again. And also let it go. You did it and now you know better. But it I get it. Like I have a girlfriend who I just was having coffee with and she has a four year old. And there is a part of me that wants to know, does she want to have another guess what I didn't do ask? I kept it to my fucking cell. If she wants to tell me if she's having another, she will tell me. It's not my business. That's fun. Anyways, well,

Brad Crowell 19:08  

so she she was talking about while she was climbing Kilimanjaro. She was actually having this internal argument with herself. And she had to, you know, continue to encourage her own self and challenge herself while she was climbing the hill, y'all. And she said, when you once you got back home, it was really exhilarating. You know, it was quite a moment that she could be proud of. And she said, the challenge of it was something that she isn't going to forget she see challenged us to find our own Kilimanjaro and in a figurative sense, not necessarily a literal sense. Although, if any of you decide to go climb Kilimanjaro, tell us because we will cheer you along. There'll be also

Lesley Logan 19:55  

the other Kilimanjaro climber we've had because now we've had to Jen

Brad Crowell 19:59  

Did she climb a clique is Kilimanjaro the second highest? So yeah, it's

Lesley Logan 20:03  

okay to see we have had to I remember on her first attempt, two people died. Yeah. So she turned around, turn around. And then she did it again. She actually did it again. But guess what she's doing? She's creating a like retreat of some kind where you will climb with her? Oh, wow. And I was like, wow. And she's like, Yeah, are you in and I was like, probably not. So excited for you, and everyone is doing it with you, because I'm gonna go with Simone and find my own Kilimanjaro. When I'm on my own. I'm gonna say, owning the businesses we have feels like fucking climbing Kilimanjaro every day. So I'm good. Note it. I got it. Well, you

Brad Crowell 20:45  

know, she actually said it was not part of her bucket list. And she did it as part of a charity work to raise money for the LIVESTRONG Foundation. And people asked her what it would feel like if she didn't reach the summit. And she said, honestly, it wasn't about reaching the summit for her. It was the mindset that got her there. Like I was saying one step at a time continuing to encourage yourself, she did talk herself up, not down so many times during the climb due to self doubt. Right, and then having summitted Kilimanjaro and surmounted her negative self talk, that's why she's encouraging everyone to go find their own Kilimanjaro because it was a challenge. And it was it was probably quite scary. And you know, what a conversation we're having in your head, if you actually do doubt yourself making it to the top? Well, I just think is great, though. Because you know, and you're Kilimanjaro doesn't have to be an extra. It doesn't have to be physical. It could be, you know, Kilimanjaro, it could be weighing nice to that person who's consistently an asshole to you. You know, it could be, it could be right. Like, I said, I'm not, I'm not a parent. So I don't have to go to like PTA meetings. I don't have to go to soccer games to stay on the sidelines.

Lesley Logan 21:59  

We gotta dig neighbor that we have to like we do. Yeah, that's my mountain calling drought.

Brad Crowell 22:04  

I'm still working on that. There's,

Lesley Logan 22:07  

there's like, Okay, you guys, when we walk past this one house, also passes one house is the view of a building that shall remain nameless, because I envision the name of this building, burning off the building every single day. And so maybe my mountain Kilimanjaro is just not noticed these two things that I have to walk past, that might be it. Or maybe it's just like not having negative thoughts while I do it. But at any rate, find your own. Ask us later, if we found ours, that can be a question you ask. And

Brad Crowell 22:36  

like I said before, you know whether it's literal Kilimanjaro or figured out if you've got something that you are going to tackle, and you want us to cheer you on. Tell us Yeah,

Lesley Logan 22:46  

well, and also you can send us your wins when you do because we have an FY EPS but and I just want to reiterate, she was focusing on overcoming her negative thoughts to get her up there to talk herself up, like you said, it's okay to talk yourself up.

Brad Crowell 22:59  

Yeah,

Lesley Logan 23:00  

I think it's really important. And also, like Brad said, we want to cheer you on. If you don't ask us to cheer you on. That's totally fine, not offended. But tell people in your life, this is really important to me, and how you react to me doing this thing is also really important to me, you know, Brené Brown, as the person who taught me the people whose opinions of you matter, they should know that their opinions of you matter. Yeah. And so if you have someone in your life who you love, and whenever you tell him, you're doing something that scares you, they kind of shit around it, then you need to have a talk with them. It says, When I tell you what I'm excited about. And we you respond with doubt. It's really hard for me to stay excited. So I would really love it. If when I say something that I'm excited about that you just say I'm excited for you. And then take your fears and talk to your other friend about it.

Brad Crowell 23:53  

Or another time not in the moment. Yeah,

Lesley Logan 23:55  

yeah. Yeah. Cuz, you know, they think they're being curious, but their curiosity is actually

Brad Crowell 24:00  

negative shanks. Yeah, um, you

Lesley Logan 24:04  

know, Dr. Pepper, no, Sprite. We don't do those things around here. Okay, let's go to those be. At least a Dr. Pepper is better. I still haven't had you know, I haven't had soda since I was 18 years old.

Brad Crowell 24:16  

Oh, really? Yeah. That's impressive. I've definitely had soda since I know it's terrible for you. Yeah. I mean, I don't have it all the time.

Lesley Logan 24:23  

It doesn't even matter. It's like it clears off battery acid from a car you should not be drinking.

Brad Crowell 24:30  

This is true. It does that. All right. Finally let's talk about those be it action items what bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items. Can we take away from your combo with Simone can Nago, she said that she uses affirmations on a daily basis. And then she told a really hilarious story about her daughter being like, I have nothing to be happy about today. And she was like, Oh, yes, you do. Let me tell you how. And then her daughter was like, I'm never telling that to you again. But

Lesley Logan 24:56  

you know what? Simone just was that guys That's an example of the response people in your life should be saying to you, yeah, when you're like, nobody likes me, you should have someone's like, Nope, this person, this person, this person, this person, last person. Somebody goes, oh my god, it's so true. No one likes you. Yeah, right.

Brad Crowell 25:13  

So right, everyone hates you.

Lesley Logan 25:16  

Yeah, you do. So did you know that this person also?

Brad Crowell 25:22  

She said, it's important that we constantly ask ourselves what we want, so that you can get what you need. Right? Because I think, you know, the two of you were talking about effectively, just doing life and being sucked into the whirlwind that I like to call the whirlwind. And there are times where we feel like we need to make a change to tackle something big, right? I've often over the years, I've had moments in my life where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna have to kick it into high gear, right? And and that might be for the next six months, or whatever it might be right? And she said, we kind of forget to change it up. We just get stuck in this thing. So whether that is oh,

Lesley Logan 26:08  

you You mean, you're like the truck that just gets the press accelerate just floors it and yeah.

Brad Crowell 26:16  

lived at one of those trucks. The Tesla, the Tesla truck,

Lesley Logan 26:20  

they're called something else. They're called. This has happened, guys. So obviously, you're gonna know when we did this, but it's called the

Brad Crowell 26:26  

cyber truck, the cyber, the cyber truck has flopped and just issued a recall shocking, because the accelerator literally gets stuck to the floor, and then it's stuck in high that is accelerated.

Lesley Logan 26:37  

That's a lot of you, you guys get stuck. You like you.

Brad Crowell 26:41  

I mean, me too. I've done it too. Right. I

Lesley Logan 26:42  

do it all the time. But you're also Enneagram three. So that's true. But like, it's you forget that you also have another gear, which is called Slow? Well, it's not.

Brad Crowell 26:52  

It's not just that. But we when we kick into high gear, there's one consistent common factor that suffers and that is yourself. Because you're like, I don't need to deal with me right now I need to focus on this thing. I need to focus on my family, my daughter, my, you know, my partner is going through law school, whatever it is, right? And you're, you're shifting everything around to support this cause. And, you know, there comes a time where you're like, hey, wait a minute, you know, what do I actually want? Because it might be that the two of you or on a team or you know, there is this thing where you're consistently sacrificing, but you also need to make sure you're taking care of yourself. And if you don't ask yourself, what do I want? How are you going to know? Yeah, I thought about this when I was listening to the interview, you know, and I love running our company and traveling and all the things. And I asked myself, What do I want? And I like literally the answer was instantaneous sleep. You know, and so it's like, okay, maybe I need to be more intentional about sleep. And then I won't. That won't be my guttural response

Lesley Logan 28:01  

on something else. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna want something else. Yeah. So anyway,

Brad Crowell 28:05  

ask yourself, what do you want? Right? And, yeah,

Unknown Speaker 28:10  

well, I'll go Yeah, go.

Lesley Logan 28:12  

So she said, respect your reflections. We need to learn to love the woman or the man or the person in the mirror, like

Brad Crowell 28:21  

the reflection asleep.

Lesley Logan 28:22  

Know what I need to know. No, no, no, no. Literal reflections, your literal reflection,

Brad Crowell 28:28  

okay, literal reflection.

Lesley Logan 28:29  

So she wants us to be who we are. So that when we look in the mirror, the first thing we see is what we actually love. And that's us. It's ourselves. And the truth is, is that so many of us are comparing ourselves to others. When we're actually looking in the mirror. We're comparing ourselves, you know, to like something unattainable, and then we're nitpicking. And really, it's just like, get it just focus. Like yeah, to love the person. And you're always love

Speaker 1 28:52  

the one you're with. Yeah. Love the one. You wasted something earlier that that was a better so I love the one we're looking at in the mirror. Yeah, no,

Lesley Logan 29:01  

that was not the song either. There was another song earlier. I don't remember. It'll come back. Oh, you said we don't get as we want. We ate and I was like, we can't I hate that song. When you get it. You can't always get what you want on. And he just keeps repeating that, but I

Brad Crowell 29:19  

just my he gave me

Lesley Logan 29:24  

like, oh my god, what was that music? Good. Anyway, Simone, You're fabulous. Thank you for teaching us all. Oh, I missed this part.

Brad Crowell 29:32  

This is important. This is important. Yeah.

Lesley Logan 29:34  

She said that 20% of people are born with confidence. So 80% of us have to work with it. If you're listening to this, and you're like, I'm struggle with confidence. It's because you're probably part of the 80%. And so we'll work on it. And Simone with her Mount Kilimanjaro situation, that's how she was able to she committed to something and she did the thing. And she that's

Brad Crowell 29:53  

coaches, women on Khan competence.

Lesley Logan 29:55  

She literally said when were with her last week, she said women instead of asking for a raise, we'll just look for another job. And really, competence comes like ask for the raise, even if you don't get it like the girl I've talked about earlier about Elevate, she like went in there and she asked what she wanted. And what I saw when I saw the video telling me about it was she was so fucking competent because she did the thing, right? The things that scare us or the things like put us in a confident bucket. So just go do that. All right, Melissa Logan, and I'm Brad Crawley. Thank you so much for listening, or watching or how are reading this? I don't know how you're doing it. Anyway, we're so grateful for you. This is due here. This is episode 365 Holy cow, holy cow. We're here because of you. And if it's your first time, we're still here because of you. Well, thank you so much for being here. Make sure you share this podcast with a friend who needs to hear it. And until next time, be it Titus yet bye for now. That's all I got for this episode of the bee until you see a podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the beat pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it help us and others be it till you see it. Have an awesome day. Be it till you see it is a production of the bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read another episode you can text us at plus 1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram at Viet pot. It's

Brad Crowell 31:31  

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Lesley Logan hosts Simone Knego for an in-depth discussion on the often-overlooked impact of societal pressures on self-esteem and how to counteract these negative influences. She delves into the importance of embracing failures as growth opportunities, utilizing positive affirmations to bolster self-worth and the crucial practice of loving oneself. Simone also highlights the importance of regularly questioning personal desires to truly understand one's needs, offering strategies for listeners to build a resilient, confident identity amidst external expectations.

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In this episode you will learn about:

• How to view failures not as setbacks but as essential growth opportunities.
• Strategies for shifting your mindset to overcome negative talk and self-doubt.
• The role of positive affirmations in strengthening self-esteem and confidence.
• Simone’s 3 tools that can help build and sustain inner confidence every day.
• How respecting your own reflections can enhance self-awareness and acceptance. 

Episode References/Links:

• Simone Knego Instagram
• Simone Knego Website
• Daughter Dearest Podcast
• The Extraordinary Unordinary You
• Chelsea Peitz Instagram

Guest Bio:

Simone Knego is an international speaker and award-winning author of the best-selling book, "The Extraordinary UnOrdinary You." She is a two-time TEDx Speaker, and her work has been featured on ABC, NBC, and CBS and in Entrepreneur Magazine and Yahoo News. Her literary contributions have been honored by the National Indie Excellence Award and the NYC Big Book Award. Simone has not only summited Mt. Kilimanjaro, but she is also the heart of a bustling household with six children, three dogs, and one husband of 30 years. As the creator of the REAL Method, Simone continues to inspire and impact teams, fostering growth, and promoting self-discovery. 

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Episode Transcript:

Simone Knego 0:00  

I think people who are confident from the inside out, they are able to compromise, they are able to see when they've made mistakes. They're able to admit when they've made mistakes. They celebrate their victories but they also celebrate when they figured out that they did something wrong and they can fix it. 

Lesley Logan 0:22  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

All right, Be It Babe. Hello, welcome back. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being awesome. My goodness, I can't believe how long we've been doing this podcast and the time of recording this intro I just recently saw several of you listeners in real life. And I got to hear your favorite takeaways in person. Also, like the quotes you were saying. And some of you have listened to the episodes two times, and I just want to say like that means so much to me. When I started this podcast, because I really wanted to help women really, truly understand how amazing you already are. And for you to find that inner confidence. And so what I'm so excited about with today's guest is she really is going to help you tap into your bold confidence. And she hasn't the most interesting take on it that I have not heard. And so her name is Simone Knego. I happen to know her in real life. And she's just amazing. And when I, when I am with her in person, like there's just something about her that like you're drawn to listening to her. She's so thoughtful and insightful. As you will listen to her on this podcast, I think you will also get that as well. She's got some amazing tips for helping you find your inner confidence, which is like the true confidence. Talk about like, confidence on the outside, confidence on the inside. And I just think this is gonna be a really wonderful conversation for you to listen to, and probably save it and listen to it again. So Simone, thank you for being here. Y'all, here she is. And I can't wait to hear your favorite takeaways. 

All right, Be It babe. I'm so excited because I have a wonderful woman here. I remember, when I first met her, we actually hadn't met yet. I heard her introduce herself. I was like, this woman is a badass, she is doing amazing things. And I really was excited to get to know her more. And I've been lucky enough to see her in person a couple of times and also be on her amazing podcast. Simone Knego, thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?

Simone Knego 3:07  

Absolutely. First, thank you so much for having me here today. I'm excited to be here. And same thing I when I first heard you speak, I was like, okay, this woman is amazing. Want to get to know her better. First and foremost, I'm a mom of six. I have been married to my husband for almost 31 years. I am a keynote speaker, author and podcast host and I love what I'm doing.

Lesley Logan 3:22  

Oh my gosh, 30 years of marriage and six kids and a podcast host, and I mean, you've also like climbed Mount Kilimanjaro, you've written books like you've been on TEDx twice. So we can go a lot of different ways, I guess. I'd love to hear like, what got you started in doing what you're doing to do always work for yourself? Are you always interested in helping people? Or did you do something before this and it kind of led to what you're doing now?

Simone Knego 3:51  

So I'm a big believer that it's okay to change your mind. I have tried many things over my life. I started out as a certified public accountant. That was what I got my degree in. And the reason I got an accounting degree, I have a Bachelor's and Master's in accounting was because I failed organic chemistry and then got us D at the second time, and that was the end of like med school. So I had to move on and so.

Lesley Logan 4:18  

Med school drop out to CPA. 

Simone Knego 4:21  

Yes. And I really wanted to act. But the words of my dad were while you live under my roof and I'm paying for your education, you're gonna get a real education, which means you're going to be an accountant because you're really good at math. Okay, great. Thank you. And realized quickly that I did not love accounting, so worked at it for a couple of years, had a horse farm, taught horseback riding lessons were at a summer camp, I did all kinds of stuff. And then I had kids. I went back to school to be a teacher because I figured I have six kids. I kind of have my own classroom might as well, put it to work in the real world. And unfortunately, as we know, teachers don't get paid enough for what they do. And I was paying my babysitter more than I was making. So that's when I went into medical sales. And then from there, I started speaking because I was asked to speak at some volunteer events through charitable organizations, and I fell in love with it. And that's when I realized I had a story.

Lesley Logan 5:28  

That's cool. Yeah, teachers don't get paid enough. We say this a lot. And also, like, I was also thinking, like, my goodness, you could go you take care of other people's kids all day long, and then you have a sick one at home, you're never getting a break so.

Simone Knego 5:44  

There was definitely no breaks happening there. But you know what, I love kids. So obviously I better, right? So it was fine. 

Lesley Logan 5:51  

Yeah, I think thank you for sharing like it's okay to change your mind. It's also okay to like dabble in things. I think so often people go, oh, that didn't work out. So I failed at that. And that didn't work out. I failed at that. And it's like, actually, you know, you get to know yourself. And I imagine that you use different skill sets from each, each different stint you had in what you're doing. 

Simone Knego 6:12  

I learned so much about myself by trying all these different things. And by failing at some of them, I mean, I think failure is actually an important part of how we grow. It's not a stop sign it is. Okay, try this next time. So, sometimes easier said than done, right? When you're in the moment of failure, it's a little bit difficult. But it's so important that we realize that it isn't something that should stop us forever. It should just say, Okay, that didn't work. What's next? 

Lesley Logan 6:40  

Yeah, I know, I it is very difficult when you're in it, like, you need someone around you, who also has that same mentality, to remind you that this is going to be a lesson that you're gonna learn from, it might be the best thing that ever happened to you. Doesn't feel good when you hear it, either, but like to get a reminder. Okay, so you got into speaking and you found you had a story to tell. I feel like a lot of people that first of all, their biggest fear is speaking in public. I know you had that acting love, but also like, was it easy for you to get into speaking? How did you take your story and put that out there because I feel like there's a big journey between like speaking efforts in charities and then doing TEDx. 

Simone Knego 7:19  

I think the more you do it, the more comfort just like anything, the more you do it, the more comfortable you feel, the more you're willing to put yourself out there. And really realizing that if my story can impact one person, it's worth it, it's worth standing on a stage and telling it and I've, I've changed even what I'm doing now. So now my speaking is really for women, women's groups all about overcoming self-doubt, building bold confidence from the inside out. Which, when we think of confidence, I think a lot of people will look at someone say, oh, my gosh, they're so confident, but are they really on the inside? Right? Is it just how they're portraying themselves? Or do they really feel good about themselves all the time? And it was a learning process to get up on that stage and just be okay with, you know, still gonna make mistakes on stage. I mean, that's life. And I'm big on just putting it out there. And I think it's good for people to see other people get up and try something that they maybe want to try. But they're too afraid to do it and then say, Oh, wait, they're human. It was still fine. It was great. I learned a lot. And yeah, they still messed up. They're great. 

Lesley Logan 8:26  

Yeah, there's a law that I'm forgetting. But Chelsea Peitz, a mutual friend of ours, she posted it. She did it in a speech. And it's like, actually, when people see someone, they look up to make a mistake, they don't go, oh, they're, they're a terrible person. They made a mistake. They actually go, oh, my God, they're human. And they trust you more. It's like this really interesting thing. Okay, so. So I want to dive into this bold confidence. And like, what is driving you to do this venture that you're working on, because you could do anything, and you could still have stuck with any of the things you've already done. So what made you want to dive into helping women specifically, have bold confidence?

Simone Knego 9:05  

So it really started with my journey to Kilimanjaro? Because I was someone who struggled for years to believe in myself, I really struggled with self-doubt. And looking back and I talk about this now and I write about this now, I had a really, mentally and physically abusive boyfriend when I was a teenager actually just did a podcast episode earlier this morning with my daughter about dating culture and what's okay and what's not okay, and the things that we don't talk about. But when I realized that that was really, it killed my self-esteem that it just brought me to the lowest levels. I didn't respect myself, I needed to build myself back up and it took years for me to talk about it for me to realize what had happened to me. And when I was asked to climb Kilimanjaro, it totally out of my wheelhouse. It's not something that was a bucket list item, but it was raising money for the Livestrong Foundation. So the philanthropic part made me very happy. And I was like, you know what, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this and I'm going to put everything in, I'm going to change my mindset, I'm going to believe in myself. And that change kind of started so many different things for me. 

Lesley Logan 10:19  

Thank you for sharing about your dating history. It's really interesting. Like, I think so many people, so many women get into relationships, and they do end up losing themselves because of it's embarrassing to talk about it, you're not really sure it was a red flag is that like, you know, there's all these different things. I have a beautiful girlfriend who's, who just recently went through a breakup and I was like, I was like, fully supportive. I was like, oh my gosh, whatever happened, like on your side. And then she told me all these things when I'm away. I'm like, I had no, I had no idea. If you'd told me one of these things had happened. I would have been like, girl, you okay? You know what, I think it's so easy. So I love that you and your daughter have this conversation because it's, they're needed to have. So I think that that's really cool. Also, like I've, I've never wanted to climb Mount Kilimanjaro. I've met many people who have most of them have done it to raising money. You know, after you climb that mountain, you know? And did it was, during the mountain, you were like reflecting like, what was like, was there a change and you came down at the high of the elevation?

Simone Knego 11:22  

All of the above. Get, so the really getting to the summit, it wasn't even getting to the summit, I've had people ask me, okay, if you didn't make it, would you still feel the same? Well, I don't know, because I did so, but hopefully, I would. Because again, I'm not a believer that failure stops you, it kind of opens the next door. But really, when I had to talk myself up, not down, I had to talk myself up so many times on the mountain thinking that, hey, what are you doing here, you have six kids at home, this is not in your wheelhouse, you're not capable of this. And the whole time, I had to say to myself, you can do this, you put in the work, you set the goal, you put in the work, you are going to accomplish this, like you are absolutely going to accomplish this. And I have a bad knee. So that didn't help with things. But it was really that change of mindset. And when I got to the summit was when I really kind of put it all together where I said that all these things, all of these negative thoughts that I have all the time, right, we have 6200 thoughts a day, and 80% of them are negative, that those aren't what I'm going to let control how I move forward, it's the positive ones and making more of the positive ones. And it really has made a difference for me and self-respect, self-worth, self-love. All of it is all part of that moment. And so I like to tell women, find your Kilimanjaro I'm not saying the specifically Kilimanjaro, but find that one thing that will kind of pull you out to where you want to be. 

Lesley Logan 13:02  

I agree with that I just heard, I was listening to some podcast. And this girl was like, so excited, cuz she ran a 5k. And she's like, I never thought I would run like I never could run around the block without like being out of breath. And she was so excited and so proud of herself for like this 5k that she ran. And I think that to her could have been Kilimanjaro, because like that just seemed like so she's like I hear about these people just go for a couple mile run. And I'm like, I can't go for a couple mile, couple block run. So I think it's true. We have to figure out what it is and also put you out of that comfort zone makes you challenge yourself. And you do have to change the story. So like I could hear, you know, it'd be so easy to oh, got this bad knee, I'm just not gonna go all the way to the top, or I'm actually gonna, I'll raise the money, but I'm not gonna go like there's so many different things you could do takes a whole superhuman level of finding yourself to do something that's outside of your comfort zone. Can we talk a bit about the difference between like the confidence that we see outside from people and then that bold confidence that comes from inside? Like, can we talk about what those two things look like or feel like?

Simone Knego 14:09  

So I think I see a lot of people who seem to be confident and then they go home and they struggle looking at themselves in the mirror. It's kind of like what they put on for everybody else to feel like they're that they're strong and they're and a lot of times when someone is confident on the outside and not on the inside, they tend to be a little bit rough around the edges with conversations. And basically, if you don't agree with them, then you're wrong. I mean, that's how what I see a lot of the time. I think people who are confident from the inside out, they are able to compromise they are able to see when they've made mistakes. They're able to admit when they've made mistakes. They celebrate their victories but they also celebrate when they figure out that they did something wrong and they can fix it. So there's four things that I like to talk about when it comes to confidence from the inside out is really your respecting your reflection, embracing your failures, asking yourself what you want, and loving the woman in the mirror. Because I think all those pieces together really, it covers everything that has to do with self-esteem. And when you look at statistics that eight, almost 85% of people will say that they struggle with self-esteem. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people that are struggling. And my daughter was asking me the other day, so why do you think it is I was like, it's called society, we have these pressures that are put on us by society, to behave a certain way to look a certain way to have a certain job to drive a certain car. And that's not real. It's just like body image. When we talked about, on our podcast, she was talking about when you said, how every woman has a different body, there's, you don't have to be the super skinny person to be really strong with Pilates. She was like, I really never thought about it like that. We always think about that, if you're super skinny, that means like, you're super fit. And that's not how it works. 

Lesley Logan 16:12  

No, no, I,um, I think that you're correct. Society puts us pressures on us it affects, it affects the compass that we're working from, you know, like, I feel like when you're I watch my girlfriend's as a little, little girl, and she posts these videos, and I just like, watch her like, this little girl has like, not really experienced the pressure of society, yet. She just hasn't. She is just like, walking around doing her own thing, like smelling a rock, like just all these things. And then at some point, you know, you learn that you have to conform in a different way, and you have to mask certain things. And my husband, he is not diagnosed, but pretty confident he has ADHD. So he taps his feet all the time, they're always shaking, he'll start whistling and like doesn't even realize it, like he's got this, like, just these interesting things. And in school, he would have to, like, keep his leg still and not whistle and like that is kind of masking of like a personality, just so we can all conform. It can change didn't change him. He is resilient in that way. But like, I think for me, like I definitely as a child go, okay, well, I have to do it like this. And if I do it like this, then I get the affirmation stuff, I get the affirmation that I did a good job, but I must feel good. And it was so interesting. Like, I went to college. And I still did all the things, and I was like, I don't actually feel very good. I don't really know why I'm here. Why am I studying this major? What am I doing? And I think it's, it's a very difficult place to be when you're like, okay, now I'm gonna pivot, I'm gonna change these things. You have to figure out that inner confidence because the outside world's like, why did you do that? How the work and it's also the outside world, like, I'm just thinking of some other times where you go through a breakup, and people like, oh, but you guys were so great together, or you decide like, one of my girlfriend's posted on Instagram, like, just being okay with people who decide to be child-free. And she's like, you don't know why they're being child-free. Like, you don't have to tell them anything. And I jokingly wrote like, oh, yeah, people will say, but she would have the most beautiful children as if that's the thing the world needs more of. And it's an interesting thing, when you make a decision in your life, and then the society, what they come out, you have to find that inner confidence, otherwise, you're going to end up doing things for the wrong reasons.

Simone Knego 18:29  

Absolutely. And I love that you brought up that, that part about when you make a choice for as a couple, as a woman as a man that you don't want to have children. How that is seen as an outlier, which is so ridiculous, right? Like everybody chooses what they want to do. And people just assume something has to be wrong. It's not like, hey, wait, we just didn't want to have children or for us, they assume because we have six children and we adopted our youngest three that we're super religious, that's the thing that we get is that

Lesley Logan 19:03  

You be your own version of suicidal.

Simone Knego 19:06  

So no matter what you do, you get some weird ideas that our people have in their heads of this isn't what you're supposed to be doing like two kids, house with a picket fence, or 2.2 kids, I forget what it is now. But six kids is way out of the norm. And so there has to be a reason there has to be an issue that you're solving in that moment or your problem that you have and that's why you have six kids now that's we just like kids and we wanted to adopt and it worked out great.

Lesley Logan 19:38  

Yeah. Well, I mean, also like, people like you and your husband should, if you love kids, should have all the kids you want because you're raising these beautiful people from, with inner confidence. I always joke when I meet people with six I'm like, great, thanks for keeping the average up for me. But obviously, you have six kids, so I'm sure you can see the differences from your boys and your girls, but also like, I do think that it's, it can tell us particularly interesting pressure for women to have that inner, bold confidence you talk about and stick with the choice that they've made for themselves, whether it's their career or whether they want to stay at home or go to like, all these different things. There's these different pressures. And so to keep that compass steady, I mean, I feel like it's not perfect. I feel like it's a pendulum and you have to be aware of when you're kind of getting out of that bold confidence. 

Simone Knego 20:30  

Yeah, I, and even yesterday, I was having a moment where I was frustrated about something, I'm late for my doctor's appointment, and all these things are happening at once. And I was like, why do you always do this? Why are you making yourself wait, why are you doing and I was like, okay, hello, take a breath. These are such minor things like, just push it aside, you'll get there when you get there. You can't change that, you've already started this process, you can't change the past. So next time you leave a little earlier and stop driving yourself crazy. I mean, just those kind of little things. I think sometimes like I call them our daily doubts, like the little things that creep up on us that we're not allowed, you know, we're not good enough to go to this party because all these women will be dressed a certain way. And I'm a jeans and T-shirt kind of girl. So when I go somewhere, I still, unless it's truly like a formal event, I wear what I wear. And what's really interesting about that, and I know I'm kind of random here, but when I go to something like that, in jeans and a T-shirt and it's a nice cheap T-shirt, I mean, I still look nice, but I'll have multiple women come up to me and they'll say, I didn't know we were allowed to wear jeans. I was like, I don't think it's about being allowed. I think it's what you want. They're like, oh, gosh, I wish I would have known I would have dressed like that you look so comfortable. And I am wearing these heels and they're killing me. And so that's part of the inner confidence is being able to show up as yourself and not worry about what anybody else is thinking of you. Because a lot of times what they're thinking is I wish I would have done that. 

Lesley Logan 22:04  

Yeah, okay. Okay, first of all, love the daily doubts. And also, the conversation you just have with yourself in the car, it's like, it's a daily thing. I'm like, why did I do this? Why did I put these things back to back? Why didn't I give myself 15 minutes in between what like all these things, and then it's just like, then if you don't stop it, it goes into a whole spiral that by the end, you're like, I made the worst mistake of doing this.

Simone Knego 22:30  

It becomes like Doomsday, and you're like, wait, I was just going to be five minutes late to the appointment. And I turned it into this ridiculous cycle. 

Lesley Logan 22:36  

Yes, I mean, it's also a pressure we can throw ourselves, my husband is late to everything and I don't mean that in like a rude way. He's like, Lesley, we can be five minutes late, like, it's not the end of the world. It's just a dinner, it's going to be okay. And I am like, we should be early, you should be 10 minutes early, people should not be expecting that, like worried that you're late or wondering if you're gonna be respectful of people's time. And he's like, it's a coffee, it's gonna be okay. And so we have like, I was like, okay, well then, there's, we had to negotiate. Like, if it's something that's really important to me, then it's on me to say, I want to be here on time, because this is really important to me. And if it's not, then I will do my very, very best to just chill out in the car and not worry about being late. I'm not perfect at it at all. But it's helped me because this weird pressure that I put on myself, and it puts me in a doubt, a daily doubt. And then almost a doomsday so. So I love that. I also love that you brought up like inner confidence that can be just like showing up as you are and not waiting for the permission to be like, how can I show up? Like how should I, how should I show up versus like, how do I want to show up? I think that's really beautiful. And I feel like it's really cool because you can be this like little example, giving into your inner confidence and showing up as yourself and wearing the jeans and a nice shirt. Oh, my goodness, I went up T-shirt shopping the other day. I was like, are you kidding? Why are these T-shirts? $200? I'm like, okay, I'm going to Target. I will get there. I will look around and I see people in there they're showing off in their style like when you can see that they have their own. This is like this is their brand is (inaudible) wear but like that's how they are, like I wear tennis shoes with dresses because I just, I can't wear heels. I just don't feel good in them. So I always wear tennis shoes with dresses, and people are like oh my god that's so funny. Like Punky Brewster. I'm like the adult version. Here she is. And you do give people permission. But I also just want to say to the people listening if that sounds like something you do, that's a checkbox for this inner confidence and I think we sometimes don't realize because that might come easier for us to just do that than we might not realize we have more inner confidence than we think we're not maybe not giving ourselves credit for it. 

Simone Knego 24:47  

Absolutely. And then the sneaker thing I love as well. So I say that I gave up heels for (inaudible), for my birthday last week my girls bought me a really fun pair of sneakers because that's what I want to wear. I want to wear stuff that's comfortable. But that's kind of my style that I don't feel like I have to dress up for anyone else. Whatever I do, and this is I think a really important thing that I would love for your audience to take away is that what we do we need to do for ourselves. So the way we dress, it should be for ourselves, it shouldn't be that we're worried that the woman down the street is going to judge us if we don't wear something that she wears, the way we show up at something, it should be about us. You want to get Botox? That's about you. It's how you feel good in your skin and not what anybody else tells you. Going back real quick to Kilimanjaro, when I first told people that I was going to climb it. I will tell you, my close friends were like, okay, that is amazing. And then the people that I didn't know very well, you know, kind of gave me the ones over and we're like, do you really think you're going to make it to the top? No, no, I think I'm going to make it halfway. That's why I'm doing it. So these pressures that we put on ourselves, when you hear negative things enough times from other people, you can understand why these thoughts will creep into our head because people will say ridiculous stuff to us all the time.

Lesley Logan 26:16  

Oh, my gosh. I've told the story before but I'll tell you, I, Brad and I signed up for like an artist's way. It was a group that all the artists were together. And so we all were on week one together, week two together, I forget which week it is, I think it's week two or three, but there are some questions that she asked you to journal about. And this memory came up of when I was really young. And I felt like eight years old. And I had made myself a grilled cheese sandwich. But I didn't know how to turn on the stove at my grandparents' house. So I grabbed my grandfather, I said hey, had like a plate with like butter on the outside, cheese on the inside sandwich. And I was like, hey, Papa, can you turn on, can you turn on the stove so I can make this grilled cheese sandwich? Many of you are probably stuck on the eight-year-old at the stove. I just want you to know like that was really normal for me. I'm just, that's its own childhood trauma. He was like, are you an idiot? What is on their sandwich? Like he called me stupid for putting butter on the outside of my sandwich. I was like, well, I'm making a grilled cheese sandwich. And you put that's how you butter on it to like go I don't know, maybe people do oil. I don't know. But that's how I was raised. Right? And so my grandmother said, oh, Jake, just turn on the stove. She's got it right, it's fine. But I'll tell you this, I actually never cooked. Like I, like my dad would, I would cook with stuff that my dad had prepared from like pancakes and French toast. But I never cooked at that house again. And then when I left my dad's house, I never cooked again. Like it's just so rare. It's very, very rare from and I'll just say I don't, I can't cook, I can't cook. So I'm doing the artist's way. And I'm like writing these different memories that I have. And I was like, oh my God, that's why I can cook. I (inaudible) I can't from someone else's negative thing. And it's so easy for those daily doubts that you're talking about. They're not really our voice. They're just other people's doubts that we've like, absorbed like a sponge and put on (inaudible).

Simone Knego 28:16  

Yeah, we put all those upon ourselves and but yeah, you hear things enough time. And this is why I think it's so important that so one of the things I love to do are positive affirmations. And if you would have asked me 15 years ago, I would have said, that doesn't work. That would not work for me. I'm not talking to myself. I talked to myself all the time now. And it really does work. But when you see how people can absorb all the negative stuff, think about it, it makes sense that we can absorb the positive stuff, too. So if we're constantly telling ourselves that we can't do something, or that we're not enough, why can't we flip it and say, yes, you can do this. And you are more than enough. And if you say it enough times you do believe it, it really is about that mindset shift. And when you think about it that way that if we can believe all the crap, then we should be able to believe the good stuff as well.

Lesley Logan 29:11  

Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna ask you like, is that, is that the only tool that you use to like flip the script or to stop your daily doubts? Or do you have other tools that you use to kind of build this inner confidence? 

Simone Knego 29:24  

I have other other tools as well. So that, that one I like to do. I do evening gratitudes so like a gratitude journal or and I remember my daughter said I have nothing to be thankful about today. I was like, Hello. Yes, you do. Let me tell you all the things and she was like, Okay, I'm never gonna say that in front of you again. No, you won't know. So really, if I go through like the the different steps like embracing your failures, it's really about understanding that your failures don't equal your worth. Right so it's all a stepping stone to the next, next section of your life and asking yourself what you want, I think is such an important thing, especially as women, I think that we forget to do that, that we either we've done the same thing for so long, we don't actually know what we want. Or we have to do this because we're in this part of our lives, right? We have to have this job, we have to do this work, we have to raise the kids, it's all about everyone else. It's all about our spouse, whatever it is. And we don't ask ourselves what we want. So I have the, it's really like a compass that you go through the different parts of the compass, asking yourself what you want, and that kind of, like, do I want to do I want to wake up negative in the morning, right? I mean, you have a choice every day. So it's really looking at that compass of where your direction is going. And kind of following a bunch of questions to say, okay, yeah, no, I mean, I have a choice when I wake up in the morning, do I want to be negative? Do I want to be positive? Do I want to be happy, do I want and I know, there's external factors. But it's really important that we constantly ask ourselves what we want, so that we can get what we need. 

Lesley Logan 31:06  

Yeah, I think that's a really beautiful, it's very important because especially the longer you go, without asking yourself that the harder you have to spend more time thinking about it, and almost like, it's like the Runaway Bride sitting where she's like, trying out all the eggs, you know, it's like, she doesn't know what her favorite way of having eggs is. And it's a simple, funny story, but also like, just reality, if like, if you just are doing so much for so many other people, you start to forget what you want. And then it's going to take time to really go through that. I love it. It's a compass. I don't know, I didn't know that. And I just like for whatever reason, like this felt like there's a compass measurement for like keeping ourselves on this path. Simone, I could talk, we could go in more things, because I just think confidence is something that so many of my listeners are always how do you have it? How do you get it? What is it and it's like, there's, I love the way that you're talking about it. Because it's different than it's different than the other ways I've heard it, which is like, just keep doing, just keep doing the things. You said you'd do. Then you'll have confidence. And it's like, yes, and that gets the perfectionist overachiever in trouble. That's a really great tool for the person who is not perfect. We're not looking for perfection or overachiever awards. We're gonna take a brief break, and then find out how people can find you, follow you, listen to you. 

All right, Simone, where can people work with you? How can they study your real method? What do you got for us?

Simone Knego 32:24  

That's where to find me is my website, Simoneknego.com. I have a new downloadable, which is the first step of my real method, all about respecting your reflection and tools and everything that goes along with it the work that we need to be doing, because like anything else, you're building a muscle and you have to work on it. I'm also Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, you can find me, Simone Knego, K-N-E-G-O because I am the only one in the world with that name.

Lesley Logan 32:59  

That's awesome. That's actually awesome. And you never have to regain your handle anywhere. And you have a podcast. 

Simone Knego 33:06  

Yes. So I have a podcast with my daughter called The Daughter Dearest Podcast. And it's really so much fun. You can find it anywhere you listen to podcasts. And I also, I have a book and I'm working on my second book. My first book is called The extraordinary Unordinary You. And you can read more about my Kilimanjaro story, my children, it's all about realizing what you're capable of. And recognizing that the little things you do everyday matter.

Lesley Logan 33:32  

I love it so much good stuff, I'll have all those links in the show notes. Before I let you go, I mean, you gave us some really good action steps already. So but just in case you will skip to the end for the too long, (inaudible) action steps of bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps we can take to be it till you see it, what do you have?

Simone Knego 33:48  

So I think the first step is really goes back to the respecting your reflection using positive affirmations on a regular basis. Don't be afraid of them. Don't, like, okay, so maybe they're silly, right? But they work like keep doing it. Whatever you do. It just doesn't happen overnight. You have to keep working on yourself. And again, if we want to say build bold confidence from the inside out, it really is you have to work at it doesn't just happen. You're not born with confidence. It's like 20% of people are born with confidence okay, so the 80% of us, we got to work. And I would say the other thing is really learning to love the woman in the mirror. We have to stop comparing ourselves to others, we have to realize what we're capable of put the work into our ourselves and really be proud of who we are so that when we look in the mirror, the first thing that we see isn't what we don't like, but the first thing that we see is what we actually love and that, that's us and I think that is such an important thing for women to remind ourselves of. 

Lesley Logan 34:46  

Oh, I love that. That is beautiful. Okay, well, yes, because it's so easy. The first thing I look at was like, oh gosh, my, I have a puffy eye. I've got this like you just like pick yourself apart and you're like, okay, I'm gonna have a good day. 

Simone Knego 34:58  

Yeah, have a good day. 

Lesley Logan 35:01  

I love it also, here on the pod on Fridays, y'all, we do the Fuck Yeah Fridays, which is like just I celebrate the wins of our listeners and I share a win of mine, it's mostly so people can hear, like, different ways that you could have a win. They don't always have to be like, I climbed Mount Kilimanjaro, which is a win, but also like, there was a little parts along the way that are wins as well. And so I started doing affirmations at the end. And I said, I hope people like these, because they can seem really like cheesy, cliche. Yes. But you know what, like, I whenever I read them, I repeat, I read them three times for the podcast. I go through my day, and I'm like, oh, look, I am pacing myself. Look at that. I'm sorry to find it. One of our other guests we've had on. She even shared, you guys, she used to put these affirmations on Post Its it's all around her house and then but she was so nervous that people will make fun of her that she would pull them all down when people come over and then she put them all up when they would leave. And she's like, now I just leave a lot because now I have the confidence to do that. But it's a, there's different ways to find those affirmations. And I think that's a great way to remind yourself of awesome things if it's not a natural phrase for you to say to yourself. So, Simone, thank you so much for being here. I really enjoy our talks and I can't wait to see you in person again soon I hope. You all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Let Simone know, let us know in the Be It pod. Share this with a friend who is needing some inner confidence and you just know they need it. This could be a nice little nudge. You don't have to tell them why you could just send them the episode. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

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Lesley Logan 0:00  

It's Fuck Yeah Friday. 

Brad Crowell 0:01  

Fuck yeah. 

Lesley Logan 0:02  

Get ready for some wins. 

Lesley Logan 0:05  

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:46  

Hello, Be It babe. Oh my goodness. Welcome to the May 3rd. Happy May 3rd. FYF, this is the Fuck Yeah Friday, which means we share wins of yours we share a win of mine and why we're doing this is so we can all stop harping on the things we did not get done today or this week or last month because my goodness, have you ever seen a finished to-do list? There's this one guy running on the podcast. He always says like he is actually had never reached a goal in the last six years of his business. And he has been very successful. And I just love that because we don't actually have to have wins the way we anticipated them to have an amazing successful life, one that is got so much goodness going on it. So let's start with your wins. 

Lesley Logan 1:29  

So, Sonia Ahmed, she's an eLevate grad and she's an Agency member. And she said an article I wrote will be published in a Pilates magazine in April. Thanks goes to Roxy for the encouragement, guidance and support. Yes. Oh my gosh. So in Agency, we have several coaches and one of them is Roxy Menzies. You've heard her on the podcast (inaudible) shout out because she herself is some amazing guest and she saw what Sonia Ahmed had written and said that could be an article and Sonya reached out and it is and I'm so, so excited for Sonia and I also love when people see things in other people and encourage them to actually say it out loud. Like it's just so fun. So thanks, Sonia and we celebrate that with you. 

Lesley Logan 2:04  

Melissa Nagai who's been an Agency member for many many years, said I sat down to do a little bit of work today after taking off six full days of doing anything to do with my business. My mind feels so much more clear as I worked on my schedule for the next couple of months. Everything felt like it was falling into place with ease versus me feeling overwhelmed. I always appreciate a good reset. Melissa, I agree. I just took three full days, which is not six full, three full days of like, not opening an email, not doing anything and it was like Holy Moly. Actually I was like, excited to come back to my desk and I'm still very behind on everything to do but it felt like it was at ease. And we have Christine Eschen, she's an Agency member and eLevate grad. Okay, wins for the week, sign up for an additional chamber group. I am working on my abundance mindset and I cancelled a 96-mile, one-way drive to work due to snowmageddon. No clients and my hubby has back pain. So we did a workout together this morning. I shared the Be It Pod with my masseuse because I think she needs it, and excited to go to Vegas and meet my eLevate partner, Heather, in real life. Feeling super blessed to be at home, loaded up with groceries and ready for snowmageddon coming, feeling blessed to have LL, Brad and everyone at Agency. Oh my gosh, Christine, I just want to highlight that you're trying to have an abundance mindset. And that in focusing on having an abundance mindset, you got rid of a drive you probably couldn't have even done if you wanted to. And you would have been so mad at yourself if you had even attempted it and frustrated and so way to go, way to like hold space for that abundance mindset you want to have. Okay, so you guys, you can send your wins in based on how many we get, we get so many that when you hear yours, it's probably a few weeks after it actually happened. And so you get to re-celebrate that win. 

Lesley Logan 3:49  

So my win is that crazy travel, like all April was just like home for four days, gone for 10, home for four, gone for four, home for four, gone again. In fact, I'm currently about to leave again for another week. And it's just a little chaotic. It's not how all of Q2 is going to be. But it's how this first third of Q2 has been. And it'd be so easy to just let the crazy travel be the reason why I don't keep my morning routines. But I am proud to say that all of April even with the crazy, chaotic flights and weird meetings and hotels and other stuff, I was able to keep a version of a morning routine that would fuel me and I share that as a phrase because some mornings included a walk and a workout and my journals, and some mornings included a workout and my journals, and in some mornings included a meditation and then a walk and then a float. Like, when you are traveling instead of focusing on what you can't do that's part of your morning routine, actually ask yourself what is possible and it truly opens up the doors for what is possible and you actually don't waste time on can't do that, can't do that, can't do, as it's a boring way to think, right? So it was actually really wonderful, wonderful April even though every single weekend of April, I was gone. And then many of the days there in the middle, I was actually just able to maintain a morning routine that would keep me fueled, which is so, so important for me to stay in my creative state of mind, because that's the only way I can give you things. 

Lesley Logan 1:29  

So I have an affirmation for you to repeat to yourself. Saying no is an act of self-affirmation, too. Saying no is an act of self-affirmation, too. Saying no is an act of self-affirmation, too. Oh, what can you say no to this weekend? That is an act of self-affirmation. I want to know, share it with me at the Be It Pod, send your wins and send your shout out too, here. If you have questions, we'll answer those on the recaps. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. 

Lesley Logan 5:44  

That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. 

Lesley Logan 6:11  

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Brad Crowell 6:26  

It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.

Lesley Logan 6:31  

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Brad Crowell 6:36  

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Lesley Logan 6:43  

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Brad Crowell 6:46  

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