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Have you ever carried shame so long it started to weigh more than the life you were living?

What if surrender isn't giving up, but the one move that sets everything free?

Bear Rinehart is the frontman and voice of NEEDTOBREATHE — one of the most distinctive vocalists of his generation, whosesongs have filled arenas for two decades. But beneath the anthems is a man who spent years growing into what the world saw as a rock-and-roll frontman. As a preacher’s kid with social anxiety, a survivor of childhood trauma, and an artist who learned early that revealing too much could cost you everything, Bear has carried more than most people would guess from the stage.

In this conversation, Miles and Bear share stories about shame, recovery, faith, fatherhood, and what it costs to finally step fully into who you are. What emerges is a portrait of two men in the middle of their own ongoing surrender, finding out in real time how much they have in common.

That surrender became NEEDTOBREATHE’s newest project — The Long Surrender — the most personal record yet to the band, written by Bear in the early mornings, recorded in first takes, and built around the one lesson Bear keeps coming back to: that freedom isn't found by holding it together. It's found the moment you stop and let others into your healing.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

• How to Recognize When Shame Is Masquerading as Strength
• How to Tell the Truth When You Fear Losing the Relationship
• How Surrender Becomes a Daily Practice, Not a One-Time Event
• How to Create From Your Real Story
• How to Repair With Your Kids Before the Moment Passes
• How to Know When Something You've Made Is True Enough to Release
• How to Build a Community That Goes Deeper
• How to Use Influence for Impact Without Losing Yourself
• How to Say Grateful 20 Years In When the World Wants More

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What We Discuss:

00:00:00 – Meet Bear Rinehart of NEEDTOBREATHE

00:05:40 – “Do You Feel Known?” Bear's Honest Answer

00:06:42 – Growing Up a Preacher's Kid with Social Anxiety

00:12:13 – Shame, the Church, and a Standard Nobody Could Meet

00:14:17 – Recovery, Rethinking, and the Freedom of Powerlessness

00:20:33 – What It Took to Finally Come Clean

00:21:53 – Childhood Trauma: Why Everyone Kept It Quiet and What That Cost

00:34:42 – Parenting Lessons From Their Kids

00:40:15 – The Long Surrender: How the Song and Album Broke Open

00:50:15 – How a Red Clay Strays Session Accidentally Led to an Album

00:59:32 – The Night Before Long Surrender

01:02:54 – Being Married to a Therapist

01:06:57 – Why Deep Adult Friendships Are Rare and Worth Fighting For

01:12:19 – A Deep Passion for Charity

01:19:58 – Bear, The Athlete

01:27:55 – From Club Rooms to Red Rocks

01:30:50 – Bear's Musical Inspirations

01:40:14 – Bear's Pre-Show Ritual & Meeting Springsteen

01:42:50 – The Hope Beyond the Music