Between Us Moms Podcast

Between Us Moms Podcast

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Between Us Moms Podcast episodes

  • Keltie Knight on "The F*ck Them Theory: Red Carpets, Enemies, Money & Why Being “Bad” Is the Key to Success

    Between Us Moms is joined by TV host, bestselling author, and longtime friend Keltie Knight to talk about her bold new book, "The F*ck Them Theory" (available for pre-order now)—and this conversation does not hold back.

    Keltie gets real about what it actually takes to succeed in Hollywood, why being “perfect” is overrated, and how embracing your “bad” or badass side might be the thing that finally sets you free and helps you to succeed.

    In this episode, we dive into:

    ✨ The truth about Hollywood - from red carpets and fashion to after-parties (and why it’s not as glamorous as you might think) and her most awkward encounter

    ✨ Why money is the ultimate power move and the most important accolade you can have

    ✨ The reality behind Emmy Awards and what they really cost

    ✨ Why sometimes you have to leave a job to be seen the way you want to be seen

    ✨ The future of entertainment news after the cancellation of E! News and Access Hollywood

    ✨ Influencer culture vs. a return to excellence

    ✨ Why red carpets may soon become obsolete

    ✨ The Met Gala—and why it’s become more of a TikTok moment than an A-list experience

    ✨ Tips moms need to hear if they have a dream they want to build into reality

    Keltie also opens up in a way we’ve never heard before—sharing what she unlearned about herself while writing this book, who might be the most upset when it comes out, and yes… the story behind her facelift.

    Plus, she breaks down why she actually loves having enemies, what makes her an “evil genius,” and how she’s using that mindset to help other women win big. Moms, she has incredible ideas if you're ready to build a new career path for yourself!

    This episode is equal parts empowering, unfiltered, and wildly entertaining—and might just change the way you think about success.

    Pre-order The Fck Them Theory now and tune in for one of our most honest conversations yet.*

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    58 min
  • Sarah Hoover is Back!

    In this powerful and deeply honest episode of Between Us Moms, we welcome back bestselling author and returning guest Sarah Hoover for a conversation that every mother—and mother-to-be—needs to hear.

    Since her last appearance, Sarah has traveled the globe promoting her critically acclaimed book "The Motherload," now available in paperback and currently being adapted into a television series. Along the way, she uncovered something striking: women everywhere are desperate for a space to talk openly about the realities of motherhood. From intrusive thoughts in the early postpartum weeks to the silent weight so many mothers carry, Sarah shares what she learned after meeting thousands of women who felt unheard, overwhelmed, and alone.

    We dive into the universal truths of motherhood, including the shocking realization that many women—even into their 70s—never recognized they experienced postpartum depression until reading "The Motherload." Sarah opens up about why owning your truth as a mother is essential and why no one deserves to spend decades disconnected from their own experience.

    Sarah also takes us behind the scenes of "The Motherload" TV adaptation, discussing the growing wave of honest storytelling about motherhood in Hollywood. She shares her dream casting (including her pick for who should play her), reveals that several high-profile moms have reached out to support the project, and reflects on how motherhood transcends status, fame, and access.

    In this episode, we also talk about:

    • Why mothers need to have hard, honest conversations—not just for themselves, but for their children
    • The cultural shift toward more authentic portrayals of motherhood in media
    • Sarah’s thoughts on the controversial article about mothers who regret having children
    • Her personal “mama hot takes,” including breaking free from Instagram addiction
    • The biggest myth she believes we need to stop telling new moms


    Plus, Sarah shares the simple but powerful practice that makes her feel whole as a mother—and why being present matters more than ever.

    This is an unfiltered, validating, and inspiring conversation about modern motherhood, mental health, postpartum experiences, and the importance of community.

    🎧 If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, unseen, or questioned your experience as a mom, this episode will remind you: you are not alone.

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    43 min
  • The Ultimate Taylor Swift Love Letter: Inside the Swiftie Universe with Olivia Levin and The Story Of Us

    This episode is a full love letter to Taylor Swift—and the Swifties who grew up with her.

    We’re joined by Olivia Levin (@swiftiesforeternity), author of "The Story of Us," to dive deep into the magic behind the fandom that shaped a generation. From decoding Easter eggs to what it’s surprisingly like meeting Taylor, Olivia shares the behind-the-scenes of her new book and the community that inspired it. We swap Taylor stories and memories... reflect on iconic dates, eras and moments and share predictions about TS13.

    We get into everything:

    ✨ The most iconic Taylor Swift bridges

    ✨ The saddest songs and favorite albums

    ✨ The Travis Kelce era and what it means for Taylor’s story -- we can't wait for her wedding photos!

    ✨ Wild fan theories and predictions

    ✨ The bond between moms and daughters through Taylor’s music

    Plus—why Taylor feels like the “ultimate mother” to so many women and how her music continues to evolve with us through every stage of life.

    Whether you’re a lifelong Swiftie or raising one, this episode is pure joy, candid conversation, magic, nostalgia, and joy.

    #Swifties #TaylorSwift #TheStoryOfUs

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    37 min
  • Emily Harrington

    In this inspiring and deeply honest episode of Between Us Moms, we sit down with world-renowned climber Emily Harrington—a 5-time U.S. National Champion and the first woman to successfully free climb Yosemite’s iconic Golden Gate route on El Capitan in a single day. Known for redefining what’s possible both on and off the wall, Emily has built a career on resilience, ambition, and pushing limits—and now, she’s navigating her most transformative role yet: motherhood. (And yes—her documentary Girl Climber was recently nominated for a Sports Emmy.)

    In this conversation, Emily opens up about how becoming a mom has fundamentally reshaped her identity, her priorities, and what fulfillment looks like in this new season of life. Once driven by clear career milestones and the pressure of a ticking biological clock, she shares how intentional she was about the timing of motherhood—and how much her perspective has shifted since welcoming her son in 2022. Now on the other side, she reflects on the unexpected joy and clarity she’s found, describing herself as “super happy” in a way she didn’t fully anticipate.

    We also dive into the persistent question so many women face: Can you really have it all? Emily offers a candid and refreshing take, calling the expectation itself an “exhausting narrative.” Instead, she explores how motherhood has redefined what “having it all” even means—and why that definition is allowed to evolve over time.

    This episode is a thoughtful exploration of ambition, identity, and the quiet (and not-so-quiet) transformations that come with becoming a parent. Emily speaks to the tension between striving and surrendering, and how motherhood doesn’t just add to your life—it reshapes what you want from it entirely.

    If you’ve ever felt caught between who you were and who you’re becoming, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and more at ease with the ever-evolving nature of it all.

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    43 min
  • Spring Cleaning for the Mom Soul: Mental Reset, Marriage Check-Ins, Decluttering & Finding Yourself After Kids

    Spring cleaning—but make it for your mind, marriage, home and identity as a mom. In this episode of Between Us Moms, we’re diving into the real kind of reset moms actually need—decluttering your brain, your home, your schedule, and your emotional load after having kids. Because let’s be honest… when do we actually get our autonomy back after welcoming kids?

    We’re talking about:

    • How we’re doing a mental reset as moms (what's helping us close the tabs and what we’re letting go of)
    • Simple ways to declutter your home and your mind without overwhelm
    • What it looks like to spring clean your marriage after kids -- what's helping in this busy season as we check in with our husbands
    • Finding yourself again after motherhood (and redefining who you are now)
    • Mom anxiety, overstimulation, and the invisible mental load

    PLUS, real-life mom updates you’ll definitely relate to:

    • Hallie shares about her first parent-teacher conference and the unexpected anxiety that came with it
    • Katie talks about seeing Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce together—and opens up about her daughter’s first school performance and why it didn’t go as planned

    If you’ve been feeling overwhelmed, stretched thin, or like you’ve lost a piece of yourself in motherhood—this episode is your reminder that you’re not alone… and that you can reset. 🤍

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    35 min
  • Taylor Frankie Paul's Season of 'The Bachelorette' Cancelled, Brenda Song Slams Alaska Airlines After Flying With Kids and a Gen Z Reality Check

    This week’s episode dives into a few stories that feel very online at first, but quickly turn into bigger conversations about parenting, media accountability, and where culture is shifting right now.

    We start with Brenda Song calling out Alaska Airlines after a flight experience that hit a nerve for a lot of parents. She booked six months in advance and still got separated from her child. And that’s where we had to pause, because if you’ve ever flown with a toddler, you already know sitting together is not a preference, it’s survival. We get into why airlines treating seat assignments like “suggestions” feels completely disconnected from reality, and why separating a parent from a young child isn’t just inconvenient, it can quickly become everyone’s problem.

    Then we shift into the story that completely took over reality TV this week. Just days before premiere, ABC pulled an entire filmed season starring Taylor Frankie Paul after resurfaced footage from a 2023 domestic incident sparked immediate backlash. While the case itself was already public and even documented through police body cam footage, this newly surfaced video added a level of visibility that changed everything. We break down what was shown, why the reaction was so fast, and what it means that executives chose to scrap a project reportedly worth tens of millions of dollars.

    But the bigger question we keep coming back to is how it got this far in the first place. With her past already known, critics are asking whether ABC knowingly cast controversy for ratings and whether this cancellation is actually accountability or just damage control after the fact. Because this isn’t just internet drama, it involves alleged violence, a child present, and very real consequences.

    And finally, we dive into a new global study that reveals a surprising shift in how Gen Z men view relationships, marriage, and gender roles. The numbers don’t exactly match the narrative we’ve all been told about younger generations being more progressive, and the gap between Gen Z men and women is noticeable. We talk through what’s behind this shift, what it might mean long term, and why it’s sparking so much conversation right now.

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    30 min
  • Amanda Stanton

    Former Bachelor Nation fan favorite Amanda Stanton joins Between Us Moms for a candid conversation about motherhood, marriage, and the unexpected path that changed her life.

    Amanda opens up about how appearing on The Bachelor shifted her future even though her older daughters barely remember she was ever on the show. She reveals why she hasn’t watched the franchise for years, why she plans to tune in for the upcoming season starring Taylor Frankie Paul, and why she believes the series was “due to switch something up.”

    The mom of three also gets refreshingly honest about parenting teenagers, navigating middle school drama, and the emotional challenge of watching your kids go through real-life social struggles. Amanda shares the advice she gives her daughters when they feel left out — and why she sometimes gets more upset than they do.


    Plus, Amanda reveals:

    Why her girls would be mortified to watch her Bachelor season

    The surprising reality show she could have joined (The Real Housewives of Orange County) — and why she said no

    Why she’s excited to watch Ashley Iaconetti on The Real Housewives of Rhode Island

    The unexpected way she met her husband Michael Fogel just days after a breakup and why he's girl dad goals now

    Her relatable idea of a perfect date

    What dinner time looks like in her house -- spoiler alert: it's chaotic in the best way

    Her honest advice for single moms dating again who are looking very their happily ever after

    Whether baby #4 could be in the future (even though pregnancy is so rough for her)


    Amanda also reflects on raising her older daughters as a young single mom, how motherhood has changed over the years and why she's a different type of mom now, and why she’s fiercely protective of their privacy now that they’re teenagers.

    Episode Note: This episode was recorded prior to the recent domestic violence allegations involving Taylor Frankie Paul.

    Whether you’re a longtime Bachelor Nation fan, a mom navigating the tween and teen years, someone thinking of adding another baby to the family or a single mom hoping to find love after heartbreak, this conversation is full of honesty, humor, and relatable moments.

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    37 min
  • Daddy Issues, Feeling Like a Bad Mom, Trying Something New & The ‘Regret Having Kids’ Article Everyone’s Talking About

    This week on Between Us Moms, Katie and Hallie are keeping it real about the highs, lows, and headlines that had them texting each other nonstop.

    First up: Mom Slay or Nays of the Week. Katie opens up about a tough potty-training moment that left her feeling like a “bad mom” and more emotional than she expected. But the week wasn’t all tears—she also filled her cup by saying yes to an inspiring event for International Women’s Day featuring Amanda Kloots. Meanwhile, Hallie is celebrating a triple slay: protecting her boundaries, saying yes only to what brings her peace, and trying something completely new—tennis lessons. Her message to moms? Try the thing, even if you’re terrible at it.

    Next, in Headlines That Made Us Text Each Other, Katie brings the latest from the podcast world as Sofia Franklyn shares new details about her upcoming memoir "Daddy Issues," where she’ll dive deeper into the early days of "Call Her Daddy" and her dramatic fallout with Alex Cooper. Then Hallie brings a controversial article from "The Cut" about women who regret having children—and let’s just say the conversation sparks some very different reactions between the two hosts.

    And in The Mom Algorithm, the ladies react to a viral high school teacher who revealed the one classroom rule she stopped enforcing after 25 years: cursing. Her reasoning? There are simply bigger battles to fight. Katie and Hallie unpack all that and their stance might surprise you.

    Honest, funny, and refreshingly relatable—this episode is a reminder that motherhood is full of messy moments, surprising wins, and conversations we don’t always have out loud.

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    28 min
  • Shenae Grimes Beech on Leaving Hollywood, “Traumatizing” Fame, Marriage & Raising Kids to “Stay Weird”

    This week on Between Us Moms, we interview actress, entrepreneur, and mom of two Shenae Grimes Beech for one of her most honest conversations yet.

    You first fell in love with her on Degrassi: The Next Generation and the CW's 90210, but today Shenae is opening up about why her time in Hollywood felt “traumatizing,” how fame in the peak tabloid era shaped her identity, and why she doesn’t necessarily want her daughter to follow in her footsteps. Now raising two kids with husband Josh, Shenae shares what life really looks like in this season: being the default parent, building her clothing brand Two Halves, dreaming about writing a book, and redefining success on her own terms -- and what new dreams she has.

    We talk about:

    • Why she stepped away from mainstream acting ans what her life looks like today
    • The “unlearning” she’s had to do after years of being told how to look, speak, and behave
    • Raising confident kids in today’s culture — and why their motto is “stay weird.” We dive into their experiences at school and how to stop caring when other kids question their fashion and choices. It's something all parents need to hear!
    • Marriage shifts when your husband goes from creative life to a 9–5 job and what the secret sauce is to staying together for over a decade.
    • Beauty standards, aging naturally, and her decision (for now) to skip Botox — even though she fully supports women who choose it
    • Living with rosacea, showing real skin online, and rejecting impossible expectations
    • Do women in Hollywood get treated differently after they become moms? What about as they age?
    • Her message to moms spiraling or feeling anxiety over the doom and gloom news cycles

    Shenae also gets candid about modern motherhood pressures, her bouts with postpartum and a baby with colic -- and why it's so important we take up space, find our identities, and take care of our mental health.

    This episode is about pivoting without shame, redefining ambition, protecting your peace, and raising kids who feel free to be exactly who they are.

    If you’re navigating motherhood, identity shifts, career changes, aging, marriage, or simply trying to care less about being “likable” — this one is for you.

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    48 min
  • What We’re Loving: JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette, Fourth Wing, Trader Joe’s Dip, Punch & Fraxel Lasers

    This week on Between Us Moms, Katie and Hallie are sharing their biggest wins and favorite things right now. Katie is celebrating a huge mom win — her daughter Kaia is officially potty trained, a milestone every parent knows is worth celebrating. Hallie shares a Valentine’s Day gift that is far from traditional but deeply meaningful: an emergency box filled with all the information she could ever need if her husband, Andrew, passed first. While it wasn’t your typical dinner and flowers (don’t worry, he did that too), this thoughtful gift showed Hallie how much he pays attention to her concerns and supports her peace of mind.


    The moms also dive into everything they are loving right now. Hallie gushes over FX’s new series, Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. and Carolyn Bessette, Katie dishes on the bestselling book Fourth Wing, and they can’t get enough of the show Ponies on Peacock. Hallie shares her hyper-fixation snack from Trader Joe’s, perfect for busy moms, they both get emotional over Punch the Monkey, and Hallie is preemptively declaring her upcoming Fraxel laser treatment for glowing, healthy skin as her new favorite beauty splurge.


    Whether you are looking for mom life inspiration, the latest trending books, fun TV shows for adults, unique Valentine’s Day gift ideas for moms, or the best snacks and lifestyle tips for parents, this episode has it all. Katie and Hallie bring laughter, relatable mom moments, and practical tips that every parent can appreciate.

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    32 min

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