Between Us Moms Podcast

In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Between Us Moms, Katie Krause Mork and Hallie Stevens Drake welcome Nicole Phelps—mom of four boys, former Miss California USA, mental health advocate, and wife to the most decorated Olympian of all time, Michael Phelps.

In a rare and refreshingly candid conversation, Nicole opens up like never before about the beautiful chaos of raising four boys, the core values she and Michael are instilling in their kids, and how they navigate the unique pressures of growing up with such a high-profile last name.

Nicole also shares intimate insights into her four postpartum journeys and her bouts with PPD, the beautiful and evolving dynamic of her marriage, the impact of social media on parenting, and why mental health has become such a deeply personal mission for her. She even answers the question we’re all wondering: Would the Phelps family ever do a reality show?

From funny to emotional to incredibly inspiring—this is a raw, real and exclusive, must-listen episode for every mom (and dad!).

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Buckle up, mamas, because this week's episode of Between Us Moms is a wild ride! Hallie confesses that potty training 2-year-old Dylan is officially her least favorite parenting phase EVER, and to top it off, her postpartum period has made an unwelcome and intense return. Meanwhile, Katie sought answers from Google AI about her second baby Emma's challenging behavior, and the response was… unsettling.

Get ready for a hilarious (and slightly gross) ‘OMG of the Week’ as Hallie shares the headline about Frida's breast milk-flavored ice cream. And finally, Katie sparks a debate: would YOU lie to your kids about their food? The mama besties dive into the viral video of a mom telling her kiddo that the fish on their plate was ‘beach chicken.’ Tune in for the raw, real, and relatable chaos!

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Katie and Hallie had some ROUGH weeks and they are taking to this week's episode to share what they've been going through. Katie explains why she's on the verge of tears as Hallie recounts some wild moments she experienced over the weekend while on a trip that was supposed to be a celebration.

The mamas are here to remind you that WE CAN DO HARD THINGS! And it's OKAY to be honest about our feelings when we're going through it.

The hosts also dive into a big topic: marriage with kids. They share trials, tribulations and tips about what works for them and their husbands.

Please tell your mom friends about the podcast and let us know if you can relate.

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It's time for Hallie and Katie to share their honest feelings on screen time and iPads for their kids at restaurants. The moms dive into the topic head first after Katie opens up about a hard time with one of her kiddos out at dinner recently. The mamas also open up about religion as Hallie shares what she is giving up for lent so that that can feel closer to God. It's a juicy, captivating and candid episode -- so buckle up!

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Join Hallie and Katie on this week's episode of Between Us Moms as they welcome the incredibly candid and insightful Sarah Hoover, author of the acclaimed memoir, ‘The Mother Load: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood.’ Sarah is a writer, art advisor, and mom-of-two who has captivated readers with her raw and honest portrayal of the realities of pregnancy and new motherhood.

In this deeply personal conversation, Sarah opens up about why she decided to write a book about her experience with postpartum depression. ‘It burned its way out of my body,’ she tells Hallie and Katie. ‘If writing this book had been illegal and punishable by death I still would have written it.’ Sarah, who experienced PPD after the birth of her first child, Guy, 7, explains that the subject matter felt ‘urgent.’ In the depths of her own depression, Sarah says she searched for literature that might make her feel seen and less alone, but was left empty handed, so writing the memoir felt ‘non-negotiable,’ adding that it was coming out of her body ‘one way or another.’

In the book, Sarah reveals how having a baby impacted her marriage, delivering an unflinching look at the struggles many couples face in the transition to parenthood. Now, Sarah offers an update on her relationship, saying they have emerged stronger and more connected than ever.

Sarah also explains why she decided to have a second child after the trauma of her first and shares the steps she took to ensure a vastly different and more positive experience in the delivery room and postpartum. Sarah delivers a powerful message of hope for any mother currently struggling and reminds us that even in the darkest moments, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Now, Sarah says she's in early talks with producers and would love to turn ‘The Mother Load’ into a television series. Naturally, Hallie and Katie have some casting suggestions.

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This week on the podcast, Hallie and Katie talk about aging and motherhood. Both of the mamas started their families later in life and now, they are raising babies and toddlers as they enter their 40s. Hallie admits she often thinks about what it might have been like being a younger mom and imagines that it might have been easier to deal with those last night feeds and getting up and down off the floor to play with the kiddos. But, she is grateful she was able to focus on her career, travel and live a full life before entering motherhood.

Katie, who met her husband, Jason, at the end of 2019 agrees that while being an older mom comes with its challenges, the timing was perfect. Now, she’s committed to taking care of herself so she is able to be there for her girls. Katie also reveals that she is starting to feel like herself again after having back-to-back pregnancies, crediting her new self-care routine for getting her pink back. Meanwhile, Hallie, a self-described ‘crunchy mom,’ is looking fresh-faced after a highly-anticipated post-baby making botox session. 

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Erin Lim Rhodes joins Katie Krause Mork and Hallie Stephens Drake as this week's special mama guest on the podcast! Fresh off her coverage of the 2025 SAG Awards, the E! host and correspondent shares an intimate look into her life as a mother to her three-year-old daughter, Saylor.

In this heartfelt conversation, Erin opens up about balancing her career dreams, the challenges of postpartum depression after taking maternity leave, diving into a new hobby, and recounting her powerful natural delivery story. This episode is a must-listen for any mother, filled with moments of vulnerability, humor, inspiration, and connection.

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This week on the podcast, Hallie and Katie dive into all things stay at home mom life. The mamas, who met at work over a decade ago, have both transitioned out of the office and into the home as the primary caretaker for their kiddos. The Emmy-winning entertainment journalists' days were once filled with fast deadlines, red carpets and bright lights, but now they manage a world full of dirty diapers, toddler tantrums and Ms. Rachel.

While both Hallie and Katie are grateful to be home with their littles and present for all the milestones along the way, they admit, it's the hardest job they've ever had, one that is way more demanding that your typical 9 to 5 employment. In a world full of sugar-coating and obsession with perfectionism, the ladies open up about all the things no one talks about like the isolation a woman can feel and the toll it can take on your mental health.

But the besties share a few of the tips and tricks they've learned along the way that have helped them manage the chaos and zero in on the gratitude.

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Oh man! Katie and Hallie are going through it in different ways. Dive into the latest episode that feels more like a therapy session as they talk about their marriages and their wedding vows and how they feel different these days -- in sickness and health really has a different feel to it these days.

The mamas also talk about a TikTok gone viral on how in motherhood we mourn who we once were. Do Hallie and Katie feel this way? They go deep into conversation about the changes and feelings they are both experiencing that we feel our listeners will be able to relate to.

It's an emotionally deep episode -- please join us and let us know how you are feeling these days too!

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This week on the podcast, Hallie and Katie dive into the universal experience of mom guilt. Katie explains that she feels the most guilty when she takes time for herself away from her kiddos, even when it's for the betterment of her mental health, like a workout class, or a chore for her family, like a trip to the grocery store. She also has lingering guilt over having a second baby so quickly after her first. The mom-of-two, who conceived her second child when she was just 5 months postpartum with her first, admits that she feels like she is often torn between the two and unable to provide them with the kind of attention she would like to.

Meanwhile, Hallie has mom guilt over her breastfeeding journey after she decided to start feeding her second-born formula at 7 months. The mama says she caught herself defending her choice to friends and family and had a realization that she hopes all moms can apply to their own motherhood journey. She also explains the guilt she feels traveling for work. While she knows she is providing for her family and is grateful for the gig, she suffers from wife guilt too, as her husband, Andrew, is left to juggle the kids and work at home.

The moms touch on how motherhood can alter certain friendships after Katie's iPhone took her on a trip down memory lane. And Hallie is left pondering pubic hair in motherhood after Vogue declared that the bush is back in 2025.

Hallie and Katie also take a moment to reflect on their recent trip to NYC to see the podcast featured on Amazon Music's billboard in Times Square. The mamas are still floating on cloud nine and can't wait to tell their girls about the experience one day.

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