Beyond High Performance

What happens when we pull back the curtain? In this special edition of Beyond High Performance, we’re flipping the script as our host Jason Jaggard is interviewed by Andy Stanley, Founder and Senior Pastor at North Point Ministries, to unpack the powerful ideas behind Jason’s book, Beyond High Performance: What Great Coaches Know About How the Best Get Better.

Together, they explore the four mindsets that define how we work — prisoner, mercenary, missionary, and athlete — and reveal why the best leaders don’t just perform; they grow. Andy shares how the book challenged his own leadership approach, shifting him from managing to leading again, and why the most irritating question — “What am I capable of?” — might just unlock your next breakthrough.

🌟 What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• The four work mindsets — and how to move from burnout to growth.
• The “high performer problem” and why success can secretly stall progress.
• The single question that drives lasting transformation: What are we capable of?
• Why leaders must model learning, not just teaching.
• How curiosity, imagination, and courage drive meta performance.

🧾 Guest Description

Andy Stanley is the founder, senior pastor, and visionary leader behind North Point Ministries, as well as a best-selling author and communicator.

Listen to Andy on the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, featuring the episode “Beyond High Performance: How Great Leaders Make Great Teams.” Tune in here.  The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast is recognized as one of Forbes’ 6 Leadership Podcasts To Listen To In 2024 and one of the Best Leadership Podcasts To Stay in the Know for CEOs, according to Industry Leader Magazine.

Jason Jaggard is the founder and CEO of Novus Global and co-founder of the Meta Performance Institute. His book Beyond High Performance has inspired elite leaders worldwide to think bigger, lead deeper, and grow beyond their current limits.

Book a free vision call with Novus Global to discover how we can partner with you on your journey beyond high performance. Click here to explore: https://novus.global/client-meta-performance-show/

Get your copy of Beyond High Performance — available on Amazon or head to https://novus.global/andy/. This special webpage is just for Andy Stanley Podcast listeners, where you can download a free copy of the Beyond High Performance workbook, and receive 40% off the hardcover version of the book itself.

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Beyond High Performance, Amanda Jaggard sits down with coach and Novus Global Partner David Gerber and his client Payandeh Ekrami, a sales leader whose “impossible” goals became reality in record time.

Originally featured on Your Finest Hour, this inspiring conversation traces how a reluctant introduction to coaching turned into a partnership that transformed Payandeh’s life — leading her to achieve a ten-year dream in just eighteen months.

Together, they unpack the power of anchoring goals to deeper dreams, embracing “soul-line” coaching, and learning that excellence isn’t earned — it’s embodied.

🔑 You’ll discover:

• How aligning goals with purpose turns the “impossible” into achievable
• Why integrating emotion and logic unlocks authentic leadership
• The difference between goal-line and soul-line coaching — and why both matter
• How powerful coaching partnerships thrive on honesty, friction, and trust
• The mindset shift that helped Payandeh buy her dream home and lead with wholeness

Payandeh’s story reminds us that high performance isn’t about grinding harder — it’s about showing up whole, courageous, and open-hearted to what’s possible.

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Beyond High Performance, Jason Jaggard revisits his conversation with author, leadership coach, and entrepreneur Jo Saxton. Originally recorded for the Global Leadership Network, this powerful dialogue explores what true wellness means — beyond yoga mats and scented candles — and why it’s a vital part of sustainable leadership.

Jo opens up about her own experiences with burnout and recovery, offering hard-won lessons on slowing down, setting boundaries, and embracing the courage to rest. Together, she and Jason unpack how personal narratives, cultural expectations, and hidden wounds shape the way we lead — and what it takes to lead from wholeness instead of exhaustion.

🔑 You’ll discover:

• Why wellness isn’t a luxury — it’s leadership fuel
• How your personal story drives your approach to work, rest, and resilience
• The subtle warning signs of burnout and what your body is trying to say
• Why authenticity and self-awareness amplify your leadership impact
• Practical tools to help you and your team build rhythms of renewal

Jo leaves us with a profound reminder: You have one body and one life, and your leadership is living in that body. Look after it.

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Your Finest Hour: What does it take to move from driving results to truly transforming a company?

In this episode of Beyond High Performance, David Miller sits down with Jeff McMartin, President of Pliant Plastics, to explore his journey from a results-obsessed “high performer” to a transformational leader who embraces vulnerability, authenticity, and coaching.

Jeff reveals the hidden costs of chasing performance at all costs — and how leaning into coaching helped him reclaim agency, integrity, and influence. You’ll hear how this shift not only reshaped Jeff’s leadership but also turned Pliant Plastics’ culture into a driver of growth and innovation.

You’ll discover:

• Why vulnerability is one of the most powerful leadership tools you’re not using
• How to identify and break free from the hidden barriers holding leaders back
• The role of coaching in scaling both culture and performance
• What it takes to lead a company into the future with clarity and courage

Whether you’re leading a team of ten or ten thousand, this conversation will challenge how you think about performance, leadership, and growth.

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Beyond High Performance, Jason Jaggard revisits his conversation with Brian Ferguson, a former Navy SEAL, tech entrepreneur, and Founder of Arena Labs. This conversation originally aired on The Meta Performance Show.

Brian shares insights from his Navy SEAL career, his work with elite teams, and his journey building Arena Labs. He opens up about the pursuit of mastery, why doing hard things matters, and how humility and resourcefulness shape great leadership.

🔑 You’ll discover:

• Why excellence is a lifelong pursuit, not a destination
• How adversity and grit fuel growth and purpose
• The role of humility in leadership and mastery
• Practical lessons from elite performance that apply to business, medicine, and life

Brian’s story is a powerful reminder that the pursuit of mastery isn’t about perfection — it’s about choosing hard things, growing through them, and expanding your capacity to serve.

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In this episode of Beyond High Performance, Jason Jaggard sits down with Diane Grant, the longtime strategic partner and executive assistant to Andy Stanley — best-selling author, world-renowned communicator, and founder of North Point Ministries, one of the largest and most influential leadership organizations in the world.

This isn’t just a story about supporting a leader. It’s a conversation about how elite leadership actually works behind the scenes — and what the world’s highest-performing CEOs, executives, and entrepreneurs can learn from it.

From her beginnings as a pediatric oncology nurse to leading in medical sales and ultimately becoming one of the most trusted figures inside North Point’s executive leadership, Diane reveals the systems, mindset shifts, and emotional intelligence frameworks that have allowed her to thrive in one of the most complex leadership environments imaginable.

Whether you’re leading a global enterprise, scaling a fast-growing company, or building an organization from the ground up, this episode will challenge how you think about trust, delegation, influence, and collaboration — and give you practical strategies for multiplying your impact.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• The CEO’s Hidden Advantage: Why high-performing leaders depend on the right partners to scale their impact.
• Building Trust That Lasts Decades: How to create unshakable partnerships that fuel growth.
• Multiplying Your Influence: Strategies for empowering the people around you to execute your vision.
• Leading Without the Spotlight: The art of shaping culture, impact, and results behind the scenes.
• Emotional Intelligence at the Highest Level: How self-awareness and boundaries protect energy, focus, and relationships.
• Hiring & Delegation Frameworks: What world-class leaders look for in the people who keep them performing at their best.

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Beyond High Performance, Dan Leffelaar revisits his conversation with Chantelle Little — Founder and CEO of Tiller Digital — and her coach, Janet Breitenbach. Chantelle shares how coaching not only transformed her personally but also helped her company double in size in just one year.

From rewriting limiting beliefs to redefining company culture, Chantelle opens up about the practices that fueled her growth as a leader. Together, she and Janet discuss how intentional hiring, ownership, and culture-building became catalysts for Tiller Digital’s rapid success. Chantelle also reveals the one powerful question Janet asked repeatedly that had the greatest impact on her journey.

🔑 You’ll discover:

• How writing out limiting beliefs can unlock personal and professional breakthroughs
• Why culture is the foundation of sustainable growth
• The importance of testing for ownership and growth in the hiring process
• How coaching accelerates both leadership and organizational performance
• The simple yet profound question that transformed Chantelle’s leadership approach

Chantelle’s story is a powerful reminder that coaching isn’t just about performance — it’s about unlocking the courage and clarity to create lasting impact.

Listen to the full episode here on Spotify and here on Apple Podcasts.

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Beyond High Performance, Jason Jaggard revisits his conversation with Andy Allo — musician, actor, and star of Amazon’s Upload. Born in Cameroon and raised in the U.S., Andy has built a remarkable career spanning music, film, and television, including touring with Prince as part of the legendary New Power Generation.

From open mics to global stages, Andy shares how grit, preparation, and authenticity shaped her journey. She opens up about pursuing her dream against cultural expectations, embracing both planning and adaptability, and the leadership lessons she learned directly from Prince.

🔑 You’ll discover:

• Why preparation creates the foundation for “lucky breaks”
• How to balance vision and flexibility in pursuing goals
• The power of adaptability — being “like water” in uncertain times
• Why great leaders know when to step back so others can shine
• How self-reflection and feedback fuel continuous growth

Andy’s story is a reminder that true artistry — and leadership — isn’t just about talent or charm. It’s about discipline, humility, and the courage to keep evolving.

Listen to the full episode here on Spotify and here on Apple Podcasts.

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We’re excited to share a new chapter of Beyond High Performance. As we transition from our MPS Moments series into a new Greatest Hits collection, we’ll be revisiting some of the most powerful and timeless conversations from past episodes.

In this Greatest Hits episode of Beyond High Performance, we revisit Jason Jaggard’s conversation with American  actor and producer Cress Williams — best known for his roles in The West Wing, Friday Night Lights, Hart of Dixie, and as the first Black superhero on network television in Black Lightning.

From navigating rejection to embracing leadership, Cress shares how his career evolved from supporting roles to carrying the mantle of a cultural icon. He opens up about lessons learned from Drew Barrymore, the responsibility of representation, and how forgiveness transformed his personal life.

Whether you’re in film, business, or leading a team, Cress’s story is a masterclass in humility, resilience, and authentic leadership.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

🎬 From reluctant leader to role model — how Cress grew into leadership on and off set
🌟 Lessons from Drew Barrymore — why compassion and presence make great leaders
🤝 Supporting roles done well — why thriving as “second” builds stronger teams
⚡ Rejection to opportunity — how losing Luke Cage paved the way for Black Lightning
👨‍👧 Family and integrity — why Cress refused to sacrifice fatherhood for fame
💡Forgiveness and redemption — the powerful story of reconciling with his father

Listen to the full episode here on Spotify and here on Apple Podcasts.

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In this episode of Beyond High Performance, Jason Jaggard sits down with Matisse Thybulle, Shooting Guard for the Portland Trail Blazers, celebrated for his elite defensive skills and creative pursuits beyond basketball.

Coached by Dan Leffelaar, Co-President of Novus Global and Founder of the Novus Global Sport division, Matisse reflects on pivotal moments in his career — including turning a season-ending injury into a powerful opportunity for leadership, mentorship, and personal growth.

From choosing discomfort as a path to growth, to reframing setbacks as launching pads for new possibilities, Matisse offers powerful lessons for athletes, leaders, and creatives alike.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

• Basketball as self-discovery: Why Matisse sees the game as a path, not an identity.
• Turning injury into impact: How he mentored teammates while sidelined.
• From defense to offense: Shifting from reactive to proactive on the court and in life.
• Choosing discomfort: Why Matisse sees it as a product worth pursuing.
• Balancing creativity & competition: Moving from viral YouTube fame back to a focused athletic career.

You can catch it all right here on the Beyond High Performance podcast, brought to you by Novus Global.

Listen to the full episode here on Spotify and here on Apple Podcasts.

Book a free vision call with Novus Global to see how we can journey with you to go beyond high performance. Click here to explore https://novus.global/client-meta-performance-show/

Join us on the Beyond High Performance Network - Order The Beyond High Performance book by Jason Jaggard today, and get free access to special bonus content!

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