Show notes:

Follow Melanie on Twitter: @MelMitchell1.

Learn more about what she does at her homepage.

Here is her New York Times Op-Ed about AI.

And here is a talk which goes into more depth: AI and the Barrier of Meaning.

Her book, Complexity: A Guided Tour, has won awards.

Check out all the free coures and tutorials at Complexity Explorer.

Here’s a talk she gave: Introduction to Complexity.

Melanie’s PhD advisor was Douglas Hofstadter, author of Godel, Escher, Bach: The Eternal Golden Braid.

I mentioned Terrence Deacon’s book Incomplete Nature: How Mind Emerged from Matter.