BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

How many rental properties do you need to retire? A lot fewer than you think.

When people start investing in real estate, they think they need 20, 50, or even 100 rental units to build wealth, retire early, and secure financial freedom for themselves and their families. This is not the case…and it’s not even close.

The average American only needs eight—yes, eight—paid-off rental properties to retire with six figures in annual cash flow. But that would take decades to pay off, right? Not quite. Within just around a decade, you could go from zero rentals to a paid-off portfolio, giving you financial independence via passive income from a small, powerful rental property portfolio.

Henry is walking through the math, how to get to financial freedom faster, and the strategy he uses to recycle the same down payment so he doesn’t need to wait years to buy the next rental.

Your financial freedom is just eight rental properties away. What are you waiting for? 

In This Episode We Cover

How many rentals you actually need to replace your income and retire (early)

Recycling your down payment to scale your rental portfolio even faster

How to (comfortably) get to $10,000 per month in rental property cash flow 

The timeline to go from zero rental properties to complete freedom with rentals 

How much money you need to start your real estate portfolio 

And So Much More!

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We’re all here for passive income, and when you say “passive income,” many people immediately think of rental properties. But, is real estate investing really the best path to get the income streams you’re dreaming of, and is there a certain threshold where it’s not worth the effort? You’re listening to this show because you’re either interested in or investing in real estate, but we’ve been invited to debate someone with a different perspective. 

Ryan Sterling, CEO of NerdWallet Wealth Partners, has owned real estate investments but has since sold them and opted for something simpler, easier, and, in his opinion, more worth the money. Ryan likes real estate investing and sees it as the quickest way for the everyday American to build wealth. But…he thinks many investors are operating under a dangerous premise, one that could delay their financial freedom.

In this episode, we’re going well beyond the average “stocks vs. real estate” debate you’ve heard a dozen times. We’re debating whether “passive income” is a lie, when real estate is worth it, who should invest in rental properties, why a 20-year-old and 40-year-old must invest differently, and the boring, simple way to invest that has made many Americans millionaires. 

NerdWallet Wealth Partners, LLC is an SEC-registered investment adviser. Registration does not imply a certain level of skill or training and nothing contained herein should be construed as investment advice. NerdWallet Wealth Partners does not guarantee investment results and does not provide tax or legal advice.

In This Episode We Cover

Have Americans been lied to about the “passive income” real estate provides?

Your real estate is not as safe as you think it is (but are stocks better?)

Why Ryan sold his real estate investment in exchange for something much more passive 

Who should go all-in on real estate and scale to a sizable rental portfolio 

How to find a real estate-friendly financial advisor (who isn’t a salesperson) 

And So Much More!

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In just six years, this single mom of three became a self-made multimillionaire with rental properties. She didn’t start with a ton of cash; she worked full-time, and she often put very little down. Using an owner-occupied strategy that 99% of investors won’t dare to try, she’s reached financial freedom while raising three kids. 

So how’d she do it?

Today, we’re talking to Rachel Duck from central Texas. She took a popular strategy—the live-in flip—and made it even better: buying houses with 5% down, living in them for a year, fixing them up, moving out, and repeating. She did it with three kids and spent her 5-9 after her 9-5 renovating homes so she could rent them and repeat.

The result? Millions of dollars in equity that has made her financially free. Today, she’s giving you the blueprint so you can do it too. Rachel shares the tips for your first live-in renovation rental, the expensive mistake she made that you can avoid, how to do it while raising kids and working 9-5, and the low-money-down loans she used to scale without putting up tons of cash.

In This Episode We Cover

One of the smartest strategies for growing your real estate portfolio fast

The “uncomfortable” rentals that make you rich and give you a place to live

Low-money-down loans you can use to buy your first property for 5% down

Rachel’s exact buy box for rental properties and live-in flip-style rentals 

Tips before you buy a property that you’ll live in and renovate 

And So Much More!

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New to investing in real estate? In an area that has high housing prices, tough landlord laws, or little-to-no cash flow potential? We’ve got you covered. We’re sharing 12 markets that are making money for real estate investors right now. Regardless of your strategy, we have markets for you. From long-term rentals to short-term rentals and Airbnbs, house hacking cities that will help cover your mortgage, and house flipping markets with high returns and low rehab costs.

We didn’t want to give you just one option to choose from, so Dave, Henry, and Ashley Kehr from the Real Estate Rookie podcast brought along three separate markets for each real estate investing strategy. From overlooked affordable suburbs with solid population growth to tourist towns that are making killer nightly rates during busy season, and even some sneaky top-tier markets that many would assume house hacking wouldn’t work (but it does!).

We’ll walk through why we like each market, their population and job growth, average home prices and rent prices, and the strategy that would make the most sense there. You can invest in real estate in 2026; you’ve just got to pick the right place!

See Dave, Henry, AND Ashley at BPCON2026! 

In This Episode We Cover

12 top real estate investing markets in 2026 (most of which you may have never heard of)

The cash flow and appreciation “hybrid” market with huge population growth 

A beach town with over 18 million yearly visitors and killer short-term rental rates

One underrated city where you can be all-in on a house flip for $200K (and make serious profit)

The one city where Dave would move if he were starting his real estate investing all over again 

We’d invest in this state…even if everyone else tells you not to 

And So Much More!

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Is buying rental properties still worth it in 2026?

There’s no denying that rising interest rates, sluggish rent growth, and other factors have taken the shine off many properties that would have been home-run deals only a few years ago.

But this is real estate we’re talking about. Buy-and-hold investing tends to reward people in the long run. It’s just that, to buy in this market, you’ve got to adapt.

Chad “Coach” Carson believes these market conditions heavily favor the “small and mighty” investor—the person who isn’t looking to buy at a massive scale but actually handpick one or two great assets every year. But there’s one caveat: you must have the time, grit, and hunger to go out and find real estate deals that the more experienced, “lazy” investors can’t be bothered with.

And Chad’s about to show you how to do just that. He shares how his own buy box has evolved in the last 12 months, his favorite strategies for buying off-market properties today, and what every investor can do to slowly and steadily build a rental portfolio that provides the lifestyle they want—no matter the market.

In This Episode We Cover

The two biggest ways to win as a “small” real estate investor in 2026

Why getting a strong cash-on-cash return today isn’t as important as you think

The new investor’s superpower when looking for off-market properties

Chad’s 3-2-1 strategy for building a portfolio with new construction homes

The number one mistake most investors make shortly after buying a rental property

The exact blueprint Chad would follow if you dropped him in a new market today

How to arrive at “enough” when everyone tells you to keep scaling

And So Much More!

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Britton Eads was making $15 per hour putting up fences all day. He had no college degree; he dropped out of the electrician trade and didn’t have many other options. One day, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad, and realized his life didn’t need to stay on the same track it was going.

Now, just four years later, he’s got over 15 rental units, his rental income replaced his fence job, he’s sitting on $200,000 in equity across his portfolio, and he couldn’t be happier. It only happened because he took action instead of second-guessing himself.

Britton’s story is one of the wildest we’ve heard. Everything from burst pipes to ceiling holes, very low appraisals, and funding mishaps. But it didn’t stop Britton from pushing forward and creating the wealth he knew was possible. He just had to learn from his mistakes. 

If you feel like you’re stuck, wanting to get into real estate investing, but thinking you don’t have the cash, the income, or the experience, there is no better guest than Britton to prove you can start—you just need to start.

In This Episode We Cover

How Britton funded his first real estate deal when he had (almost) no money 

The big mistakes Britton made on his first real estate deal (that you should not repeat)

Using equity from one rental property to fund the purchase of another 

Buying a fourplex with just 3.5% down using a loan most investors overlook

When paying for a mentor (or community) is actually worth the investment 

The best beginner advice from Britton to get you in the game and stay out of trouble

And So Much More!

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The housing market is doing what nobody expected—and none of the mainstream media is covering it. Trends are forming that most Americans thought were impossible in this type of economy, greatly impacting home prices, days on market, and buyers' negotiating power. If you know the truth, you can take advantage. If you don’t, you’ll miss what’s actually happening behind the scenes. This is our June 2026 housing market update! 

It could be the most encouraging sign for the housing market in years—prices haven’t crashed, Americans are actually buying more homes, and many traditionally hot markets are seeing complete buyer control. It’s a real estate investor's dream come true, but the media won’t tell you that. 

These numbers matter more than you think as investors. You can find better deals, negotiate tens of thousands off the list price, and get cash flow that many thought was dead in 2026. Today, I’m sharing the exact process you can go through to see how aggressive you can be in your investing market so that you can pick up a deal for a steal most people will wish they would have gotten in a few years.

Don’t miss it. This is not going to last forever. 

In This Episode We Cover

The surprising state of the housing market that news outlets aren’t covering 

Best (and worst) markets in June 2026 and which are seeing serious discounts

A new reality for the housing market? Why buyers are coming back to bid 

Updated housing market risk report and whether foreclosures are rising or falling 

Investors: this is exactly what to do to get a better real estate deal in 2026!

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Morgan Housel, best-selling author of The Psychology of Money, Same as Ever, and The Art of Spending Money, has a “system” for building wealth that seems too simple, too easy to be true—but is. Most Americans think getting wealthy is only for those willing to work 100+ hour weeks, build a business from scratch, inherit millions, or get a high-paying six-figure job.

That’s not the case. The average American can get wealthy—you just need to follow this “good enough” system.

Morgan spent the early part of his career covering lessons from the fallout of the 2008 Great Financial Crisis. Economics couldn’t make sense of it, and what he found was that psychology could. Knowing how to win the money game puts you in the player’s seat, instead of watching from the sidelines. And today, Morgan shares the biggest lessons to get in the game.

From the simple “system” both he and Dave use to build wealth to the #1 skill of a wealthy investor, when you should spend more money, and why merely working harder isn’t going to get you what you want. Morgan even shares his strong opinion on the #1 thing wrong with the housing market today—and how we could actually fix it. 

In This Episode We Cover

Morgan’s simple “system” for building wealth even if you don’t have tons of extra income

Why retiring early is not the goal worth striving for (and what is better)

How much of a return should you be making on your investments? Morgan’s unique answer 

Knowing your “enough” so you can stop worrying, start living, and do what you’re meant to do 

Spend more money before it’s too late? The argument for why you shouldn’t wait to give 

And So Much More!

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Ten years ago, Erika Brown bought her first investment property. Now, a decade later, she’s financially free, with a portfolio she’s slowly starting to scale down so she can do less, enjoy her life more, and build the early retirement lifestyle she had always dreamed of. But it wasn’t always like this. 

Back in 2012, Erika was working at a bank, climbing the corporate ladder, with no thought of ever retiring before 65. She just couldn’t ignore one thing—every wealthy client at the bank was investing in real estate. They were on to something she wasn’t, so she tried her first house hack—fixing up a basement unit while raising three kids and working nine-to-five.

Then, a few years later, the real investing began. Erika did everything—short-term rentals, Section 8 long-term rentals, cashing out her 401(k) to renovate, renting out rooms, buying up entire blocks. She gives her true, honest take on which strategies are worth the effort, which have a bad rap but strong cash flow, and why she’s scaling down, not up, only 10 years into her investing career. 

In This Episode We Cover

How to break out of the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle starting with one property 

You’re wrong about Section 8: How to get great tenants with government rent checks 

Is coliving (rent-by-the-room) really worth it?

Would you trade your retirement account for a rental property? Why Erika pulled the trigger

Why you need to change your rental strategy often to keep cash flowing 

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Anyone can flip a house after hearing this episode. If you’ve got around 30 minutes and want to make a faster return on your money than rental properties, this is how you do it. And this isn’t just hype—Dave is putting this knowledge to the test, flipping his first house with the help of expert house flipper James Dainard. 

James has flipped over 4,000 houses, has made more mistakes than almost any house flipper on the planet, and knows exactly what to buy, what not to buy, and how to turn an average, outdated home into a top-seller with six-figure profits. If you’re a beginner, you’re in luck—James is breaking down everything a beginner needs to know when buying, budgeting, fixing, and selling a house flip in 2026. 

We’ll get into it all—why house flipping still works in 2026, the best properties to flip for beginners, the red flags to avoid (unless you’re very experienced), Dave’s actual first house flip numbers (with examples), how to protect yourself in a bad market, and what to do when costs rise faster than you anticipated. 

Give us 30 minutes, and you’ll be ready to try your first house flip. 

In This Episode We Cover

The best properties for beginners to flip (with the least amount of risk)

Dave’s actual numbers on a house flip property he’s buying and renovating 

The biggest red flags a beginner must avoid when buying a house to flip 

Profits shrinking? Here’s what to do ASAP to lower your flipping costs 

How to still make a sizable profit when the market is working against you

The team members that will make or break your profit (and timeline) 

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