BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

Nick Burke knew he wanted to invest, but in his high-priced New Jersey market, buying a cash-flowing rental property was close to impossible. He needed to find an affordable market, somewhere with population growth, equity upside, and houses below the $100K price point. He did it, but in a city, 99% of investors have completely written off arguably too soon. 

Now, Nick owns a rental property portfolio of seven houses, using the “BRRRR” method (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat), to build an entire rental portfolio with very little money out of pocket. He’s done what most investors never thought of—buying his first true rental with a credit card, managing renovations from hundreds of miles away, and going 50/50 with a partner when he didn’t have the cash.

If any of that sounds too risky for you, Nick proves that if you’ve got your head on straight, you can make it work with all of these options. Just two years later, Nick’s portfolio has made him hundreds of thousands of dollars richer in equity, and he’s even gotten paid to buy rentals! All it took was taking the leap and realizing he, too, could build wealth in real estate.

This is his exact strategy for scaling so quickly, without a ton of cash to start.

In This Episode We Cover

How to use the BRRRR method to make tens of thousands in equity immediately 

Buying a rental property with a credit card?! The 0% interest move Nick made that paid off

The #1 most important person on your out-of-state investing team (you cannot miss this!)

Nick’s exact buy box for finding an affordable, cash-flowing real estate market

Investing while working a 9-5 job? Why it’s more than possible even if you’re managing renovations 

And So Much More!

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It’s the middle of Spring, traditionally the busiest time in the housing market. But this year…things have changed. The market isn’t following regular patterns; some new concerns and opportunities are emerging and starting to approach the horizon.

Are real estate investors prepared for what’s about to come? 

We’re back with this month’s housing market update, going over everything from mortgage rates to foreclosures and housing crash risk, how long homes are sitting on the market, and a silver lining for investors that most Americans are missing. But there are some concerns. 

One all-important metric for real estate investors is changing, and many rental property owners aren’t prepared for it. This could lead to lower profits, reduced cash flow, and, for those already struggling to pay the mortgage, foreclosures. Who’s in danger, and which areas of the country are most at risk? 

Plus, with delinquency rates rising and foreclosures increasing, are we at the tipping point of entering a dangerous housing market, or is this merely a return to normal, working its way through the system?

In This Episode We Cover

May 2026 housing market update: mortgage rates, foreclosures, rent trends, and more

Why investors may see their cash flow get squeezed, especially in these areas 

More price cut opportunity? Homes sit on the market longer, but when should you bid?

Americans (surprisingly) get back to buying, with pending sales seeing significant changes 

Updated risk of a housing crash: Does climbing delinquency signal a bigger problem? 

And So Much More!

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Are “tenant-friendly” states actually making investors richer? Ever since we started investing, people have always told us to invest in “landlord-friendly” states—places with quicker eviction laws, no or limited rent control, and fewer license requirements and fees. But most Americans will know that the top-appreciating markets like California, New York, Washington, and Hawaii are tenant-friendly. 

Are investors leaving money on the table by not investing in these more regulated markets?

Today, we’re getting to the bottom of it. We’ll explain what a tenant-friendly vs. landlord-friendly state is, the real dangers of investing in a tenant-friendly state, whether rent control could kill your real estate investing business, and why not all “landlord-friendly” states are so friendly to your bottom line.

The question is: would we invest in any of these “riskier” markets for landlords? Yes, but with one big caveat. If you can lock one specific skill down, you can invest in the most tenant-friendly states without ever going through an eviction, and make huge appreciation along the way. 

In This Episode We Cover

Landlord-friendly vs. tenant-friendly states: the biggest differences between the two

Do tenant-friendly states actually make investors more money?

Rent control, rental licenses, and long evictions: how to plan for all of them 

States with the worst (and best) laws for real estate investors 

Would we invest in a tenant-friendly state? And if so, how would we protect ourselves? 

And So Much More!

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5 paid-off rentals vs. 15 rentals with mortgages. We get this question a lot: Should I pay off my rental properties or use the ⁠cash flow⁠ to keep scaling? Many investors believe you need a dozen or more rentals to become financially free. So, in today’s show, we’re going to show you the overlooked math behind having five paid-off ⁠rental properties⁠, and whether it’s worth it to keep scaling to over a dozen doors.

I’ve modeled out both scenarios (pay off rentals vs. buy more) to see which gets you to ⁠financial freedom⁠ faster, which leaves you with a bigger net worth, and which pumps out more cash flow so you can do what you want with your time. We’re using real, inflation-adjusted numbers: $400K home prices, $250/month cash flow, 30-year loans. These are the types of deals we’re buying even in 2026.

So which scenario would Dave pick? Dave has a clear answer on the option he thinks is best for most real estate investors, and what to do if you pay off your rental properties but want to scale slowly when the right deal arrives.

If you’ve got some cash burning a hole in your pocket, this is the episode to hear before you make a move. 

How Logan scaled to 14 rental units and nearly $8,000 in monthly cash flow

Buying his first rental property at 18 with no credit, no experience, and just $15,000

Several ways to find off-market rental properties for sale (and fund them!)

How to scale your real estate portfolio faster while keeping your W-2 job

Why house hacking is a no-brainer for people looking to break into real estate

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5 paid-off rentals vs. 15 rentals with mortgages. We get this question a lot: Should I pay off my rental properties or use the cash flow to keep scaling? Many investors believe you need a dozen or more rentals to become financially free. So, in today’s show, we’re going to show you the overlooked math behind having five paid-off rental properties, and whether it’s worth it to keep scaling to over a dozen doors.

I’ve modeled out both scenarios (pay off rentals vs. buy more) to see which gets you to financial freedom faster, which leaves you with a bigger net worth, and which pumps out more cash flow so you can do what you want with your time. We’re using real, inflation-adjusted numbers: $400K home prices, $250/month cash flow, 30-year loans. These are the types of deals we’re buying even in 2026.

So which scenario would Dave pick? Dave has a clear answer on the option he thinks is best for most real estate investors, and what to do if you pay off your rental properties but want to scale slowly when the right deal arrives.

If you’ve got some cash burning a hole in your pocket, this is the episode to hear before you make a move. 

In This Episode We Cover

5 paid-off rental properties vs. 15 rentals with mortgages: which makes more money?

How much faster do you reach financial freedom if you pay off your mortgages early?

The multi-million dollar difference between the two scenarios (but is it worth it?)

How Dave is combining the two scenarios to “harvest” his cash flow while scaling

Proof you don’t need a huge portfolio to become a multimillionaire 

And So Much More!

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Most Americans are worried about money. Paying the bills, having enough for retirement, and being able to afford emergency expenses. And, like many of us, you may have grown up in a household watching your own parents constantly worry or fight over finances. This is one of the crucial anxiety points of Americans—and rentals can change that.

Today, Joel Larsgaard from the How to Money podcast shares his story about how rental properties, and just paying attention to his money, changed his worldview and his family’s financial future. He, too, saw his parents constantly keeping up with the Joneses—buying more house than they could afford, buying expensive cars, struggling to keep up. Joel vowed never to worry the way his parents did.

After discovering personal finance, Joel did what most new real estate investors do: a “no-brainer” house hack. Then he bought another, and another, and another—and over the past sixteen years, built a slow, scalable, financial freedom-enabling rental portfolio, without taking a ton of risk or biting off more than he could chew. 

Joel admits it’s harder to invest in 2026, but that’s what makes it a necessity in today’s economy.

In This Episode We Cover

The “no-brainer” rental property new real estate investors should buy first 

Why money stress is much more dangerous than most Americans realize

The slow, steady, low-risk rental property plan Joel followed to build an entire portfolio 

How to be prepared to invest in 2026 when home prices and rental costs are higher 

The world seems like it’s falling apart, but here’s why you should still invest 

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Brett Hundley doesn’t want an employer or a nine-to-five job. Ever. At just 32 years old, he has already retired from one career and is now chasing the freedom and flexibility that real estate investing can provide.

During his eight years as an NFL quarterback, Brett spent evenings after practice learning the ins and outs of real estate from teammates who had already discovered its wealth-building potential. Early on, he tried a little of everything—short-term rentals, new construction, and other investing strategies—before zeroing in on house flipping, which has since become his bread and butter.

Brett says the skills he developed running an NFL offense directly translate to the real estate investing world, where he now manages contractors, deadlines, and budgets instead of playbooks. His goal for 2026? Complete 24 real estate projects. But he’s not staying busy just to pass the time post-football. Like most investors, he’s after true financial freedom—not just the income but the flexibility to spend more time with family, travel the world, and retire on his terms.

In This Episode We Cover

Brett’s journey from NFL quarterback to veteran house flipper

How to find “great” deals in competitive markets with strong deal analysis

Quitting the nine-to-five grind and “retiring” with real estate investments

How to build out your own real estate investing team in any market

Completing 24 real estate “projects” per year (without working long hours!)

And So Much More!

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If you want to generate passive income with rental properties, reach financial freedom, and make the most money with the least stress, do not do any of these six things. There are six ways to fail at real estate investing in 2026, and if you get even a couple of these wrong on your first or next deal, you could be out of the game for years to come.  Trust us, we’re now dealing with five-figure emergency costs because we didn't follow the tips we’re sharing today. 

Both Henry and Dave have reached financial freedom in around a decade by doing real estate the right way. But that doesn’t mean they haven’t made very costly mistakes. Whether it’s tenants, repairs, using the wrong calculations, or waiting to talk to this specific person, there are a few crucial landmines to avoid on your next investment property. 

So, we’re going through the six ways to fail at real estate investing. If you do the opposite of these six, you’ll make money faster, with way less stress, scale smarter, and probably reach financial freedom even quicker than Henry or Dave.

In This Episode We Cover

What Dave does every single time before he hires someone to work on his rental 

The one mistake that led to an $80,000 (that’s right) repair bill 

The wrong way to calculate “cash flow” that will have you losing money every month

Why most new investors waste months or years by not talking to these two people 

Are home inspections really worth it? This is who should (and shouldn’t) pay for one 

The one true way to tell if a tenant will be a great renter or a nightmare 

And So Much More!

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Struggling to find cash flow these days? You’re not the only one. Today’s guest built a portfolio of 50 rental properties before margins started getting thin, but one giant pivot changed everything—a pure cash flow play to complement the appreciation and tax benefits from his rentals. If you want cash flow, he’ll show you exactly where to find it!

Today, Devon Kennard makes 12%-14% returns with an investing strategy that doesn’t involve tenants or toilets: private money lending. Better yet, he’s often able to recycle the same capital multiple times per year for even faster returns. And yes, this is real, passive income. Despite scaling to over $12 million in assets under management (AUM), his tech stack allows him to spend just 25 hours a week on his real estate business.

It sounds too good to be true, but with some capital and a few tools, you could start doing private money deals that give you the monthly income you’re unlikely to find with normal rental properties. Devon shows you how to get started with as little as $10,000 and even breaks down a standard deal where he makes $5,000 in monthly cash flow—plus fees upfront!

In This Episode We Cover

How to generate massive cash flow with private money lending

Why Devon pivoted to passive investing after building a 50-property rental portfolio

How to structure your own private money deals (with as little as $10,000)

The three “levels” of private lending you can start using in 2026

The tech stack that makes private money lending easy for new investors

And So Much More!

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At 20 years old, Jefferson Simmons was kicked out of his frat house. The entire property was getting remodeled, so he and 47 other college kids needed a place to live. Time to rent…right? After being discouraged by the rentals in his area, he switched his Zillow tab from “Rent” to “Buy” and saw a $250K house for sale.

He was a sophomore in college. Could he really buy his first house?

Thankfully, he had been saving up for tuition since high school, but an academic scholarship now put the entire down payment in his hands. He pitched his parents on cosigning, and next thing you know, he was renovating a basement to fit as many frat friends as possible.

Now, just nine years later, Jefferson is financially free, with a rental portfolio generating $20,000/month in cash flow, all before the age of thirty. Today, Jefferson shares why he ditched law school to invest, the one thing that helped him scale his portfolio way faster, and how he’s consistently found underpriced deals that give him stellar returns. 

In This Episode We Cover

How to buy your first rental, even if you’re young, and even if you have little money

The partnership every new investor should look for to keep growing 

An expensive lesson Jefferson learned on his second real estate deal (huge renovation)

Is dropping out of school worth it to invest in real estate? Why Jefferson did it 

Why you should always make a low offer even if it doesn’t get accepted (at first)

The secret to scaling faster when you want to buy more than one rental per year 

And So Much More!

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