Mike and Jesse are joined by Cliff Panezich and Steve Grad to discuss a story that has rocked the hobby, a multimillion-dollar forgery scandal that came out last week. Cliff and Steve offer unique perspectives on both sides of the story to help illuminate where the hobby currently is and how a scam of this scale could possibly be achieved.

Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson

Guests: Cliff Panezich and Steve Grad

Producer: Steve Ahlman

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