Kate and Oliver are joined by Bishop Omar Jahwar and Ryan Tillman on this episode of “Sibling Revelry.” Even though they aren’t actually related, the two met and had an instant spiritual connection, referring to each other as “brothers from another mother.” Bishop Omar Jahwar has devoted his career to curbing gang violence and Ryan Tillman is an active police officer and founder of Breaking Barriers United. Together, they’ve been holding conversations about race in our country and working to facilitate honest and open dialogues.

Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna

Produced by Allison Bresnick

Editor: Josh Windisch

Music by Mark Hudson

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