Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock'n'Roll

In this episode of the Bitcoin, Fiat, and Rock'n'Roll podcast, host Michael Blaschke speaks with Lidia Kurt, CEO of BX Digital, a groundbreaking company in Switzerland that has recently received FINMA approval for a DLT trading facility. The episode explores BX Digital’s mission to revolutionize the trading and settlement of tokenized securities, utilizing blockchain technology in the regulated Swiss financial market.

Lidia shares her background in finance and blockchain, highlighting her journey from consulting in the digital asset space to leading BX Digital’s efforts in blockchain adoption. She explains how Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) can disrupt financial markets by changing how assets are exchanged, making the entire infrastructure more efficient and cost-effective.

BX Digital’s core innovation lies in the settlement process. Lidia emphasizes how the use of blockchain can significantly reduce settlement times and costs. The platform’s hybrid approach allows for digital asset settlements with traditional fiat currencies, ensuring speed and reducing the complexity of cross-border transactions. The company offers tokenized securities such as equities, bonds, and funds, focusing on efficiency and security for banks and financial institutions.

In the conversation, they also discuss the regulatory landscape in Switzerland, where BX Digital benefits from a favorable DLT law, positioning it at the forefront of financial market infrastructure innovation. Lydia talks about the company's ambition to lead a shift in financial market systems, offering a blueprint for other markets globally to follow.

The episode concludes with Lydia highlighting BX Digital's vision of a future where digital assets become a core part of the financial system, paving the way for faster, cheaper, and more secure transactions.

BX Digital press release on the granting of the licence by FINMA

Blockstories-Interview with Lidia Kurt

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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

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In this comprehensive March news episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, Manuel (dialing in from Singapore) and Alex (reporting from Frankfurt) unpack the month’s most important developments across crypto, DeFi, and traditional finance. The central theme? Infrastructure—and how the lines between legacy finance and blockchain-native innovation are rapidly blurring.

The hosts kick off with a macro market update: Bitcoin’s volatile price swings, ETF outflows, and how macroeconomic pressures are keeping crypto prices in check despite strong fundamentals. From there, they explore two converging trends: TradFi institutions cautiously adopting blockchain infrastructure, and crypto-native platforms building permissioned systems to accommodate regulators and institutional investors.

Key topics include Coinbase’s new “verified pools,” Kraken’s $1.5B acquisition of NinjaTrader, the closure of Ripple’s long-running SEC case, and the strategic moves by players like Goldman Sachs, Euroclear, and the Canton Network. Also in focus: the surge of stablecoin-related announcements—from Fidelity and OpenAI to Trump’s surprise USD1 token—and the shifting regulatory winds in both the U.S. and Europe.

Plus, insights from Frankfurt’s Crypto Asset Conference and the Digital Euro Conference, the rise of public-permissioned blockchain models, and how regulation like MiCA and the Basel standards will shape what comes next.

If you’re looking for a sharp, European take on how digital assets are evolving—and how institutions on both sides of the spectrum are adapting—this episode is a must-listen.

Nuggets of the months of each co-host:

FAZ article by Alex on the US Bitcoin reserve

Podcast with Frank Schäffler on the Bitcoin reserve

Podcast with Jürgen Schaaf on the Bitcoin reserve

Podcast with Peter Grosskopf on Unstoppable Finance

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

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In this episode of Bitcoin, Fiat, Rock & Roll, we dive into the shifting global regulatory landscape for digital assets and stablecoins—focusing on the growing influence of the United States.

Our guest, Hagen Weiß, a seasoned blockchain lawyer and former BaFin and Finance Ministry official, brings insider perspectives on how U.S. regulatory momentum—particularly around stablecoins—is reshaping the international playing field.

We explore:

Hagen also shares candid insights on the future of governance tokens, regulatory clarity, and how startups can survive—and thrive—under evolving crypto frameworks.

👉 Whether you're a legal pro, DeFi builder, policymaker, or crypto enthusiast, this episode is your essential briefing on the fast-evolving regulatory chessboard.

🎧 Tune in now and join the conversation.

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[LinkedIn Hagen Weiss (Dentons)]()

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

In this episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, we explore how SAP’s Digital Currency Hub (DCH) is bridging the gap between enterprise software and stablecoins. Michael Blaschke, Bernhard Schweizer (SAP), and Rebecca Carvatt (EY) explain how enterprises handle stablecoin payments without leaving their familiar ERP environment.

We explore the technical architecture that allows for 24/7, instant, global payments at low fees, supporting major stablecoins like USDC and PYUSD across multiple blockchain networks. The conversation includes a detailed look at PayPal’s historic first business payment using PYUSD to pay EY in fall 2024, marking a significant milestone in enterprise stablecoin adoption.

Our guests break down the practical aspects of implementation, from wallet management and currency conversion to compliance considerations and accounting standards. They share insights on why major corporations are embracing this technology now, particularly for cross-border payments and high-inflation corridors. The episode offers valuable guidance for corporate treasurers and finance leaders preparing for the future of payments, including specific action items for getting started with stablecoin payments in an enterprise context.

The discussion concludes with a forward-looking perspective on the evolution of enterprise payments, including programmable finance, machine-to-machine transactions, and the growing ecosystem of companies adopting digital currency solutions for business payments. Listeners will come away with a clear understanding of how traditional finance is being transformed by the merger of enterprise software and digital currencies.

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LinkedIn Bernhard Schweizer (SAP)

LinkedIn Michael Blaschke (BFRR)

SAP: "Digital Currency Hub - Enterprise Payments Without Boundaries"

Bloomberg: "PayPal Completes Its First Business Transaction Using Stablecoin"

CoinDesk: "Crypto Will See Revolution By Acceleration"

Coinbase Blog: "PayPal, EY and Google Cloud Use Coinbase for B2B Payments"

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

Strategic Bitcoin Reserves remain one of the most intensely debated topics in the digital currency landscape. Just a few days back, US President Trump has signed an Executive Order that states the establishment of both a Bitcoin Reserve and a broader Digital Asset Stockpile in the US. In this new episode of the Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll (BFRR) podcast, host Jonas Gross explores the topic of Bitcoin Reserves with Dr. Jürgen Schaaf, advisor to the Senior Management at the European Central Bank (ECB). Following a previous episode that examined the pro-Bitcoin Reserve perspective, this conversation dives deep into the counterarguments.

Dr. Schaaf points to Bitcoin's fundamental limitations. He argues that Bitcoin mainly failed to deliver on its original promise as a payment system, points to its extreme volatility as a barrier to mainstream adoption and questions its utility. The discussion distinguishes between three distinct reserve models that are often conflated in public discourse: strategic reserves, foreign exchange reserves, and sovereign wealth funds. Dr. Schaaf provides an analysis of whether from his perspective any of these three frameworks presents a legitimate economic case for institutions holding Bitcoin —with conclusions that may surprise listeners.

After two comprehensive episodes on Bitcoin reserves—examining both the supportive and critical viewpoints—stay tuned for an upcoming episode where the BFRR team will thoughtfully reflect on these discussions and share their own perspective on this both controversial and timely topic.

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x Profile Jürgen Schaaf

LinkedIn Profile Jonas Gross

Previous episode with Frank Schäffler on Bitcoin Reserves

Paper Schaaf & Bindseil: The distributional consequences of Bitcoin

Article FAZ by Jürgen Schaaf and Ulrich Bindseil: Was Gegen eine strategische Bitcoin-Reserve spricht

[BFRR Episode: ](Bitcoin-Papier der EZB: Zerstört Bitcoin die Demokratie](https://www.bfrr.de/bitcoin-kritik-in-paper-der-ezb/)

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

In this episode all four co-hosts, Alexander, Michael, Jonas and Manuel discuss the most relevant news of February: The negative crypto market sentiment, market cap and ETF AuM contractions and the reasons for that – among others the Bybit Hack Presidential Meme-Coins.

On Feb 21, one of the largest Crypto-Exchanges was hacked and a north-korean hacking group stole 1,4 bln USD worth of cryptocurrencies. The co-authors explain what happened and discuss how the attack and the biggest hack in history could have been prevented.

The Episode goes on to analyze and discuss the players and the mechanisms behind the issuance and price collapse of the Libra token that was supported by the Argentinian president Javier Milei and the interlinkage to the Melania Token.

After the bearish news, the record 2024 earnings of Tether and Coinbase are analyzed which reflect the positive crypto sentiment and market activity of last year – in particular in Q4.

The last section is devoted to European developments with an update on European MiCAR licenses for Stablecoins and crypto asset service providers as well as recent developments in the European projects on central bank digital currencies (CBDC). The ECB sees threats from USD denominated Stablecoins and wants to accelerate the digital Euro project as a respondes and on the other side wants to provide a solution in 2025 to connect Target services – existing settlement infrastructure – to newly emerging blockchain networks.

If you find these topics interesting, make sure you listen to this months news-episode of BFRR!

Nuggets of the months of each co-host:

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

In this episode, we present a panel discussion that took place at this year’s Frankfurt Digital Finance Conference. The BFRR co-host Stefan Grasmann and his expert panel featuring leaders from flatexDEGIRO, Bitpanda, Crypto Finance, and Union Investment engage in a discussion about business opportunities in the crypto space in 2025, focusing on trading, tokenization, and the role of stablecoins.

The panelists share insights into how their companies are navigating the landscape, from building retail and institutional adoption to creating new financial products like tokenized bonds and blockchain-based funds. You'll hear about the challenges of regulatory frameworks like the Markets in Crypto Assets Regulation (MiCAR), the need for standardization in tokenized assets, and the competitive pressure from the U.S. as it ramps up its crypto initiatives.

From the potential of crypto-native assets to the broader implications of blockchain technology on financial markets, the panel discussion unpacks what’s next for the digital asset space. Whether you’re a retail investor, an institutional player, or simply curious about the future of finance, this conversation offers fresh perspectives.

Listen in for a forward-looking discussion that sheds light on the future of trading, tokenization, and blockchain innovation. Don’t miss this opportunity to stay ahead of the curve and make sure to enjoy the episode!

Frankfurt Digital Finance Conference

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

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Quantum computing is no longer a distant prospect; it’s a reality. In this episode, co-host Michael Blaschke explores two significant developments that are impacting the relationship between quantum computing and blockchain: Google’s 105-qubit Willow chip and Ethereum’s proactive initiative for quantum resistance, known as "The Splurge."

Based on insights from his recent study at the FERI Cognitive Finance Institute, titled "Quantenzeitalter: Quantencomputing als Gamechanger für Finanz- und Realwirtschaft," Michael discusses the implications of quantum computing for both traditional finance and the cryptocurrency sector. The episode simplifies complex quantum concepts, highlighting how quantum computing poses both challenges and opportunities for traditional finance and crypto.

Key topics include:

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FERI press release “Quantum computing: game changer for a new information age”

Michael’s analysis “Quantenzeitalter: Quantencomputing als Gamechanger für Finanz- und Realwirtschaft” published by FERI as a Cognitive Comment in German

Recent post by Vitalik Buterin: “Possible futures of the Ethereum protocol, part 6: The Splurge"

Google press release “Meet Willow, our state-of-the-art quantum chip”

Research paper “Quantum Attacks on Bitcoin, and How to Protect Against Them”

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

The concept of a "strategic Bitcoin reserve" is gaining increasing international significance. What Donald Trump brought up in the US election campaign is now being seriously considered by a growing number of nations - including Brazil, Japan, Russia, and China alongside the US. The Czech Central Bank recently marked a milestone by becoming the first of its kind to officially announce plans to evaluate Bitcoin investments.

Against this backdrop, the new episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock'n'Roll focuses on whether and how nations and central banks should use Bitcoin as a strategic reserve - a topic now also taken up by the FDP in the current German federal election campaign. Co-hosts Jonas Gross and Michael Blaschke discuss this with FDP member of parliament Frank Schäffler, who champions Bitcoin, crypto, and digital asset topics in the Bundestag like few others.

How does the FDP envision a Bitcoin reserve? The specific proposal suggests that the German Bundesbank and the European Central Bank (ECB) should diversify their currency reserves through Bitcoin. The Bundesbank's current gold reserves of 140 billion euros serve as a reference point. Schäffler emphasizes that this is a political appeal, as central banks remain independent in their investment decisions. Implementation would occur through active, systematic new acquisitions. Should the German state also buy Bitcoin according to the FDP's vision? You'll find out in the episode.

What are the challenges? Schäffler sees the biggest challenges in convincing the "establishment" and central banks. While ECB President Lagarde currently rejects Bitcoin investments, Schäffler considers it progress that the topic is being discussed at this level at all. He points to the positive developments of recent years: from the first tax recognition in 2013 to today's broad social acceptance of Bitcoin. What other challenges exist? You'll find out in the episode.

Enjoy the Episode!

Transcript in English

Transcript in German

LinkedIn Profile Frank Schäffler

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LinkedIn Profile Jonas Groß

LinkedIn Profile Michael Blaschke

LinkedIn Profile Frank Schäffler

Previous episode with Frank Schäffler about Bitcoin ban in the EU

Book „Entnationalisierung des Geldes“ – F.A. Hayek

Book „Broken Money“ – Lyn Alden

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

In this episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock'n'Roll (BFRR), we speak with Julian Liniger, CEO and co-founder of Relai, about his mission to make Bitcoin accessible to everyone. Julian, a young Swiss entrepreneur, launched Relai in 2020 with the goal of simplifying Bitcoin investments.

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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to [email protected] by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.

Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here

All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!