For CEOs, a board’s support can make all the difference. But knowing what kind of
support to ask for isn’t always obvious.

In this episode, Wayne Peacock, vice chair of the Elizabeth Dole Foundation and the
former CEO of USAA, and Dona Young, a director on the boards of USAA, NACD, and
Spahn & Rose, spoke with NACD director of governance content Mallory Bucher.
Peacock and Young are cochairs of the NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission. Peacock
and Young are cochairs of the NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission. Together, they
discuss how boards can work with CEOs to create the conditions where both parties
can thrive. They also explore the ways directors can provide guidance without
micromanaging and why transparency is central to a high-functioning board-CEO
relationship.

Host: Mallory Bucher, director of governance content, NACD

Guests: Dona Young, NACD.DC®, director, USAA, NACD, Spahn &; Rose; cochair,
NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission

Wayne Peacock, vice chair, Elizabeth Dole Foundation; former CEO, USAA; cochair,
NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission

Related NACD Resources:  

• Building a High-Trust Board-CEO Relationship
• “Beyond the Appointment: Communicate CEO Transitions for Long-Term
  Success”
• “The Evolution of the C-Suite and Its Impact on Board Dynamics”

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Boards have high expectations for CEOs, but what do directors truly want beyond the numbers and reports?

In this episode, Wayne Peacock, vice chair of the Elizabeth Dole Foundation and the former CEO of USAA, and Dona Young, a director on the boards of USAA, NACD, and Spahn & Rose, spoke with NACD director of governance content Mallory Bucher. Peacock and Young are cochairs of the NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission. Together, they unpack what directors expect from CEOs. They also discuss how to establish trust early and maintain it through disagreement and disruption, and why steady leadership and transparency matter most when the stakes are high.

Host: Mallory Bucher, director of governance content, NACD

Guests: Dona Young, NACD.DC®, director, USAA, NACD, Spahn & Rose; cochair, NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission

Wayne Peacock, vice chair, Elizabeth Dole Foundation; former CEO, USAA; cochair, NACD 2025 Blue Ribbon Commission

Related NACD Resources:  

• Building a High-Trust Board-CEO Relationship
• “Making CEO Succession Plans Stick”
• “A Director’s Responsibility to the CEO”

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For some directors, networking may feel like a chore. But it can be one of the most
valuable practices for deepening governance insights and staying current in the
boardroom.

In this episode, Katrinka McCallum, a director on the boards of ACI Worldwide and
Intrusion, and NACD advisor Susan Paley explore the value of board networks. They
also discuss practical strategies for making networking purposeful rather than
transactional, ways to balance time and resources, and how a network evolves over the
arc of a director’s board career.

Host: Susan Paley, NACD advisor

Guest: Katrinka McCallum, NACD.DC, director, ACI Worldwide and Intrusion

Related NACD Resources: 

•  “You Joined a Board. Now What?”
•  NACD Chapters

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Building governance from the ground up at early-stage companies is Jack Lazar’s specialty—and his favorite kind of challenge.

In this episode, Lazar and NACD advisor Susan Paley explore Lazar’s extensive Silicon Valley career. They also discuss the nuances of private company board service, what it takes to work with visionary founders, and why effective governance always comes back to people and relationships.

Host: Susan Paley, NACD advisor 

Guest: Jack Lazar, 2025 NACD Directorship 100™ Private Company Director of the Year and a director at Astera Labs, Box, GlobalFoundries, Resideo Technologies, and Tonal Systems

Related NACD Resources:

• The Growth Catalyzer: Jack Lazar (link TK)
• Building a Board for Start-Up Success
• Documenting Governance (Boardroom Tool)

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How do investors assess the quality of boards? To start, they look for well-defined and transparent director roles and responsibilities, says Aeisha Mastagni, a CalSTRS senior portfolio manager.

In this episode, Mastagni and NACD’s Marcel Bucsescu look at the investor’s perspective on board effectiveness. They explore the importance of clear disclosures, board quality red flags, and the ways in which Mastagni and other investors interact with and influence boards.

Host: Marcel Bucsescu, NACD vice president of strategic engagement

Guest: Aeisha Mastagni, senior portfolio manager in the Sustainable Investment and Stewardship Strategies unit, California State Teachers’ Retirement System; chair, Council of Institutional Investors; chair, Golden 1 Credit Union

Related NACD Resources:

• Building Long-Term Value: Insights from Leading Investors
• The Importance of Investor Relations to the Board

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Boards don’t always need a well-known, “rock star” chair; sometimes, individuals who simply possess strong leadership qualities are more successful in the role. 

In this episode, board member Virginia Gambale and NACD advisor Susan Paley explore the role of independent chairs. They discuss the difference between board leaders and other board members, the relationships to prioritize in the role, and the qualities of effective chairs.

Host: Susan Paley, NACD advisor

Guest: Virginia Gambale, chair, Nutanix; board member, Consumer Edge, Evertec, Virtu Financial, and 10x Banking Technology; managing partner, Azimuth Partners

Related NACD Resources:

• Director Essentials: Board Leadership Structures
• Director Essentials: Succession Planning for Board and Committee Leaders

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An executive coach is not typically an advisor, a problem solver, or a performance corrector. Rather, a coach is someone who helps with self-discovery, Dawn Zier says.

In this episode, Zier, an executive leadership coach and board member, and NACD advisor Susan Paley discuss the role of coaches in the governance ecosystem. They explore when and why a CEO or C-suite coach may be necessary or desired; why this is a positive thing for executive leadership, the board, and the company; and the board’s role in establishing and supporting the success of a CEO-coach relationship.

Host: Susan Paley, NACD advisor

Guest: Dawn Zier, executive leadership coach, The ExCo Group; chair, Hain Celestial Group; board member, Acorns and Prestige Consumer Healthcare; former CEO, Nutrisystem

Related NACD Resources:

• Making CEO Succession Plans Stick
• Survey Analysis: Board-CEO Relationship

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It can feel impossible to distinguish between reality and hype when it comes to new technologies. But that’s exactly what strategic boards are doing, says Grant Thornton’s Adam Bowen.

In this episode, Bowen and NACD’s Dylan Sandlin discuss the board’s role in tying digital transformation to strategy, how technology executives can work with the board, and how directors can stay current on new technologies.

Host: Dylan Sandlin, program manager of digital and cybersecurity content at NACD

Guest: Adam Bowen, managing director in the Business Consulting practice at Grant Thornton Advisors LLC

Grant Thornton is a NACD sponsor, providing directors with critical and timely information, and perspectives. Grant Thornton is a financial supporter of the NACD.

Related NACD Resources:

• “A Guide to Energizing Technology Governance”
• The 2024 NACD Blue Ribbon Commission report: Technology Leadership in the Boardroom

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Am I as good as my board peers? Do they think I’m a fraud? If you’ve found yourself asking such questions, you may be experiencing impostor syndrome.

In this episode, board member and author Keith Dorsey and NACD advisor Susan Paley discuss impostor syndrome and self-doubt in the boardroom. They define what “impostor syndrome” is, how it manifests among directors, and how to tackle it individually and with peers.

Host: Susan Paley, NACD advisor

Guest: Keith Dorsey, NACD.DC®, senior advisor, United States, Boyden; board member, Continu, Pacific Crest Trail Association, Pepperdine University’s Graziadio Business School

Related NACD Resources:

• Redesigning Your Life: The Transition to a Portfolio Lifestyle
• Culture as the Foundation: Building a High-Performance Board

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The transition from an executive to a board career, or a portfolio lifestyle, is more than it appears; the change can be seismic, in fact.

In this episode, board member Paul Williams and NACD advisor Susan Paley discuss how Williams transitioned away from his full-time career toward a portfolio lifestyle. They cover the value he finds in board service, his shift in mindset from outward achievement to inward fulfillment, and the day-to-day changes he’s experienced.

Host: Susan Paley, NACD advisor

Guest: Paul S. Williams, director, American Funds/Capital Group; trustee, Public Storage, George Jackson Academy

Related NACD Resources:

• Redesigning Your Life: The Transition to a Portfolio Lifestyle
• Demystifying the Path to Board Service

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