Normally on the podcast, I introduce you to innovative individuals who are shaping the future of the American West—ranchers, writers, athletes, authors, adventurers, conservationists, entrepreneurs... pretty much anyone who’s interesting and doing important work here in the West. • But this episode is a little different. This time the tables are turned, and I’m in the hot seat, being interviewed on the local Colorado Springs podcast, The Little London Show. • A few months back, Little London Show hosts Jeff and Darcie asked me to join them to chat about my new role as Conservation Director at Palmer Land Trust, my family’s move from Boulder to Colorado Springs, and some of the lessons I’ve learned from hosting the Mountain & Prairie Podcast. I thought it was a fun conversation, and we discussed a variety of interesting topics, including public lands, Theodore Roosevelt (of course), favorite books, my journey from selling ranches to full-time conservation, and much more. • And just to be clear, I don’t think I’m an Innovator of the American West, nor do I enjoy listening to my own voice, but we covered some topics that I thought might be of interest to you guys. As usual, there are links to everything we discuss in the episode notes, so visit the website to access all of those resources. And if you have a few moments, let me know if you enjoy this format of me answering a few questions. If you do, then every so often I’ll plan on releasing episodes from other podcasts where I am the interviewee or possibly answering questions from you guys, if that would be of interest. • But no matter what, we’ll be back to the normal interviews with real innovators next week, so be on the lookout for that. Again, thanks for your support and thanks for listening. ••• Episode Notes: http://mountainandprairie.com/bonus/ Support the Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/mountainandprairie ••• TOPICS DISCUSSED 2:30 - Introduction 3:20 - Mountain & Prairie Podcast explained 6:00 - Discussion of podcast guests 9:55 - TR and Public Lands 13:40 - Lessons learned from the podcast 16:50 - How I ended up in the West 19:45 - Transition to Colorado Springs from Boulder 22:30 - New job with Palmer 24:20 - Land conservation discussion 30:40 - Rugged individualism 33:10 - Rawness of the West 35:40 - “Your Stoke Won’t Save Us” article 40:50 - Uselessness of ultra running 42:10 - Three best books on the West