You probably learned about Harriet Tubman in school growing up — how she led slaves to freedom on the underground railroad. But she was a lot more than an activist and freedom fighter. She was a daughter, wife, entrepreneur — and a talented outdoorswoman.

This episode from the podcast Out There explores Tubman’s relationship with nature, unpacks how that history shapes the way Black Americans engage with the outdoors today and shows how a closer look at Tubman could offer new perspectives on who belongs outdoors.