On this Thursday bonus episode we are going to play the interview from episode 168 back from August 5th 2018 with filmmaker Jean-Luc Julien who talks about moving to Berlin and how he managed to make his first feature on a very low budget while living in Berlin. I felt like this was a good pairing for our episode with Jae because they are both documentary filmmakers who pushed the genre in different directions, but one working in Los Angeles and the other working in Europe. But don't got away because Liz and Alrik also play another round of the game! Enjoy!