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You Better Watch Out Interview with Darren Wearmouth and "Murr." How did Sci-fi/horror author Darren Wearmouth and impractical jokers TV star James Murray become writing partners? How did they come up with those crazy murder scenes and what announcement did they make about 2026?!!!! Plug in, be ready to laugh and be ready to pop into theaters to see Don't Move this fall.

What is Jessica's Obsession? Is Eddie Redeemable?  Why is Trinity the worst?

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https://www.instagram.com/darrenwearmouth
https://linktr.ee/jamessmurray

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We are thrilled to be partnering with Celisia Stanton, the host of Truer Crime, to bring you our episode which touches on Lauren McCluskey and the themes that are a part of her story: domestic violence, failures of the justice system and why women aren't listened to. 

TW: Femicide, Domestic Violence, Rape, Stalking, SA, Murder. Show notes: 

1:30-3:15 What is a domestic thriller and what are some we have read? 3:15 - 3:30 Domestic violence as a psychological thriller theme 3:45- 6:00 Why are women often portrayed as dumb? Why do women apologize and/or why are we worried about being seen as rude? 
6:00 -9 :30 The Gift of Fear book (linked in show notes) and Dr. Reeder teaches us about pre planned responses
9:30-11:30 Damsel in distress article about female protagonists, what does the movie Frozen have to do with this topic?
11:30 -14:30 Domestic Violence stats (Trigger warnings) 
14:30 - 19:00Why don't women get help and Truer Crime with Celisia Stanton - Lauren Mccluskey
19:10-20:00 state laws around DV
20:00 - 25:00 Wendy Maldonado case (linked below) 
25:00 - 26:15 How can women expect to be listened to? What are options for women to leave?
26:45-28:00 How many women are killed annually around the globe per day?28:00 - 30:00 What is happening around you? Behind closed doors. 
31:30 All men. Why women choose the bear. What does Ashley want the last thing her kids to see be if something happens to her?

Book: The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker - anywhere you shop for books

https://people.com/husband-wife-killed-murder-suicide-divorce-8769233

https://www.katherinemkennedywriter.com/post/the-damsel-in-distress-why-female-characters-are-still-stuck-in-a-tower

Every F-ing Day of my Life: https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/every-f---ing-day-of-my-life/umc.cmc.1aq9cocb6lbot0y8a4kkq2aa9

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truer-crime/id1565741041

https://www.dvsn.org/january-2024-stalking-stats-tactics-impacts/

https://laurenmccluskey.org

 https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/UN_BriefFem_251121.pdf

https://unews.utah.edu/timeline-of-events-in-lauren-mccluskey-case/

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/21/this-harrowing-study-reveals-why-victims-of-sexual-violence-dont-go-to-the-police/

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11 (ish) quick questions with Emily and Ashley including, what is something they've done together that was super risky, what type of a psychologist is Emily and how was Ashley's High School job legal?

Show notes:

0:00-2:00 Intro, announcements and reminders

2:30 What is a book we didn't finish or do not recommend.

4:00 What were our first jobs?

6:45 What shows did we binge? 

8:50 What misconceptions do people have about us?

12:30 What does your perfect reading "room" look like?

14:40 What are our pet peeves?

17:40 What is something risky we have done together?

20:00 What kind of a psychologist is Dr. Reeder?

23:00 The tik tok tics and Hysteria podcast

26:00 Placebo effect 

26:15 Jaen and Dalton study

27:45 Jury selection

30:00 Who is more willing to try new things?

30:10 What would you write a book about?

32:00 How did we name the book club?

34:00 Diabolical Lies 

Links:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25280827/

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0C3L653YS?ccs_id=8e7a14f9-21d9-400b-b7a7-0892798bea32

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/diabolical-lies/id1761438573 

https://moneywithkatie.com/

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hysterical/id1753789609

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/tics-and-tiktok-can-social-media-trigger-illness-202201182670

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9733629/

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Emily and I finally decided to chat about Saving Noah. 

0:00-2:00 Intro

2:00-3:00 Emily's synopsis of the book and the intro

3:00-5:00 The moms reaction in the book to Noahs admission 

5:30-6:30 When Noah's parents tell their victims

7:00-9:00 Noah's punishment 

9:00-12:00 Is it treatable? 

12:00 -14:00 Co dependency with Noah and his mom

15:00 Programs for those who recognize their pedophilia young 

17:00-19:00 Why did Noah need to go back to school?

19:00-26:00 Emily teaches us about cases that helped create new laws like Adams law and sex offender registry. 

26:00-29:00 Tiers of sex offender

29:00- 36:00 PAS/Euthanasia

36:00-39:00 The choice Noah's mother makes to help him 

39:00 -40:00 How did Emily and I feel about the mother's choice 

41:00 There is something wrong with you 

42:00 What were we relieved about?

43:00-46:00 Personal experience with predators 

46:00 Social media and other platforms - the BARK app (see connected)

48:00 Emily says "I am dead inside from doing this."

49:00-51:00 Maybe we will leave Lucinda alone

51:00-53:00 What are we reading now 

TW: Suicide, abuse, SA, children, violence, kidnapping, rape

https://lucindaberry.com/

https://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/news/sex-offending-genes-more-important-than-family-environment

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28282050 (pastors)

https://www.bark.us

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6470698/ (genetics)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10785970/ (Euthanasia for mental health)

https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-1-unique-considerations-regarding-juveniles-who-commit-sexual-offenses

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3565125/ (castration)

https://www.amazon.com/Saving-Noah-Lucinda-Berry-ebook/dp/B0752D8QQB

https://oneill.law.georgetown.edu/child-euthanasia-in-belgium/

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/europe/belgian-paedophile-belgium-euthanasia-escape-unbearable-sexuality-a7072841.html

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/first-do-no-harm

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/ad-am/bk-di.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/right-die-belgium-inside-worlds-liberal-euthanasia-laws

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2882449/

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/resources/newsletters/childrens-rights/five-facts-about-juvenile-sex-offender-registration/

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Show notes would be a total spoiler! You must listen to the episode to hear our favorites (or check the transcript). You can find the books we mention here https://amzn.to/3BFC4Ox

0:00-12:00 Our favorite reads of 2024 

12:00-13:50 What are we reading now?

13:50-15:15 What are we watching?

15:15-18:30 What podcasts are we listening to?

19:00-22:00 What podcasts do we plan on listening to?

22:00-30:00 What are our 2025 goals?

https://www.texasmonthly.com/podcasts/series/the-problem-with-erik/

https://open.spotify.com/show/3UNxeZPD5fDSzm26mqTjgc

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/noble/id1757686789

https://www.netflix.com/title/81705443

https://tv.apple.com/us/show/presumed-innocent/umc.cmc.5hnqrhwtzt3esr7rb1wq2ppvn

https://www.netflix.com/title/81474158

Books we mentioned: https://amzn.to/3BFC4Ox

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FULL spoilers Join Ashley and Emily as they chat You Better Watch Out by Darren Wearmouth and James Murray. Why did they love this book? This book was Smile meets escape room meets Dexter. We also discuss female serial killers and vigilante killers. Head to our Patreon for our quick and dirty show after the show to hear about our current life updates and holiday plans.  

TW: All of them, we chat about all scary and unnecessary things. 

Show notes:
0:00-2:00 The cover of the book and what we were reading
2:00-5:00 Intro to book 
5:00-7:00 How some of the characters died
7:00-10:00 Questions we have about the books
10:30- 17:00 Female Serial Killer Dorothea Puente
17:00 - 19:30 Mass murders versus spree killers 
20:00-23:00 What would you do? Can serial killers be rehabilitated?
23:00 - 24:00 Do not get back in that cops car
24:00-34:00 Vigilante Killers 
34:00 -37:00 Gun control and mental health 
37:00-40:00 Em teaches us about jury nullification
42:00- 44:00 Prison culture and "rules"
45:00-47:00 Drunk driving 
50:00-52:00 Wrapping up the episode 



Dorothea Puente article https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/killing-her-boarders-burying-them-194503281.html

https://www.oxygen.com/murders-at-the-boarding-house

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Rodrigues_Filho

WaPo poll https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/18/yes-many-young-adults-seem-sympathize-with-killing-health-care-ceo/

https://medium.com/bouncin-and-behavin-blogs/how-money-moves-why-billionaires-dont-help-the-economy-3de8c6ed30fb

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/jeffrey-dahmers-murderer-explains-why-he-killed-the-milwaukee-cannibal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

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Meet one of our original book club members who doesn't even read the books.  Heather is one of our dear friends who lives life with authenticity, has a servant heart and just happened to play a huge role in the 2024 hit "A Bar Song" by Shaboozey. Emily and I heard it first and Heather said to us "this is going to be the song of summer."

Listen in and learn all about how she started in the music industry and why in the world she remains a part of the book club while having no interest in the books. 

https://www.heathervassar.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hvassar/
https://sheisthemusic.org/profile/hvassar/
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20241212-shaboozey-a-bar-song-tipsy-the-2024-drinking-song-that-became-a-giant-us-hit
https://www.casualmediapartners.com/

Show notes: 
0:00-3:00 Who is Heather? 
5:00-7:00 A taste into Heather's insane life
7:00-7:45 Heather's phone habits 
7:45-10:00 Heather's busy life and her mental health 
10:30-12:30 How Heather stays disciplined 
12:30-16:00 Religion and living authentically 
16:00-21:00 The impact of travel on our lives 
21:00- 24:00 The impact of being around other artists on living as her best self
24:00-29:00 What is Heather reading and why she is being so brave
29:00 Emily schools us on psychopaths and scary photos 
29:00-33:00 Why Heather now reads for fun
33:00-35:00 How we met Heather and why she tried not to be our friend 
35:00-39:00 Why outsourcing work is the WAY to go 
40:00 Asking heather a BIG question 
40:30 - 44:00 Heather and her integral role with " A Bar song" By Shaboozey
44:00 We are so boring
45:00-51:00 Why Ashley is so boring, Heather and Emily's take on behind the scenes stuff
51:00-53:00 Why we never listen to ourselves 
53:00 Q and A with Heather 
53:45- End - Closing Remarks 

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What do the Jon Benet Ramsey and Casey Anthony cases have to do with our book of the month The Last One at The Wedding by Jason Rekulak? Listen in and find out! 

 What would Emily or Ashley do if they knew one of their kids committed a crime?  Thank you to our listener Tracee for her wedding story! 

TW: Sodomy, child abuse, graphic violence, suicide, SA, murder
MAJOR spoilers from the book 

Show notes:
0-2:00 Chit chat and intro and our rating of the book 
2:00 Frank - our favorite character
5:00 What made Ashley gag and not Emily  (preview) 
5:30-7:30 Maggie and Aiden
8:00 Why did Tammy horrify us 
9:30 The impact money has on our decision making 
11:30 How did Jason research this amount of wealth?
13:45-20:00 Would you turn your kiddo in for a crime?
20:35 Ellie Nessler 
23:00 creepy Catherine
24:00 WHAT made Ashley gag and not Emily
28:00 Harlows Study 
31:00 WHAT story from the book is true?
31:30 Funny wedding stories 
36:00 Where do wedding traditions come from?
40:00 Weddings and vow renewals

Poll: https://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2013/10/click-survey-would-you-ever-help-cover-up-your-childs-crime.html

LA times Ellie Nessler - https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-nesler30-2008dec30-story.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-wont-say-leads-jonbenet-case-say-s-obvious-want-solve-rcna182477

https://people.com/all-about-casey-anthony-parents-george-cindy-anthony-8422484

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-19/kristin-smarts-dad-says-justice-not-over-with-flores-conviction

https://www.justia.com/criminal/aggravating-mitigating-factors/

Harlows Study https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

Wedding flood https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-06-01-mn-8872-story.html

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Today Emily and Ashley chat real life - sick kids, parenting styles, member emails and pivots we are making as we learn how to best show up for our members. 

Show notes: 
0:00-2:30 WHO has Ashley become?!
3:30-8:00 Parenting styles 
8:00-10:00 Menendez brothers 
10:00-15:00 Member email 
15:00-18:00 Books we do NOT Recommend to anxious people 
19:00-22:00 The Anxious child and how we parent
22:00-24:00 Keeping kids Safe
24:00 - 29:00 Why we are done with Read with us and what the plan is
29:00-32:00 The HOLIDAYS 
35:00-38:00 Holiday decorating and Ashley's pet peeve

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Come on a ride with us through the top 10 questions we get. Here are the questions in order, please comment below with your answers. 

(1) What's your favorite type of thriller and least favorite ? (1:00-10:00)
(2) What thriller would you recommend to someone just getting into genre (10:20-11:50)
(3) What thriller would you recommend for thriller lovers (11:50-13:30)
(4) What thriller do you recommend to people who get scared easily? (13:30-15:00)
(5) What are the scariest thrillers you have read (15:00-18:00)
(6) What non-thriller do you think everyone should read (18:20-20:20)
(7) What thrillers are unknown and underrated (20:20-22:30)
(8) Authors you'll never skip (22:30-25:00)
(9) Current Controversies (25:00-31:00)
(10) What else do you need to say about reading? (31:30-end)

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