If you’ve been told “everything looks normal” but you still feel exhausted, foggy, or stuck in a cycle of unexplained illness—this episode could change everything.

In this powerful, information-rich conversation, Lori and Kelly sit down with Dr. Richie Shoemaker, the groundbreaking physician who uncovered a hidden driver behind many complex chronic illnesses: Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS). You’ll hear how environmental exposures like mold and biotoxins, combined with certain genetics, create a perfect storm that traditional medicine often misses.

Dr. Shoemaker shares how his decades of research created a clear path forward for those who’ve felt overlooked, dismissed, or misdiagnosed.

You’ll Learn:

• What CIRS really is—and how to know if you have it
• Why brain fog, fatigue, and pain often share a hidden root cause
• The role of genetics (HLA) in who gets sick and why
• How validated testing and treatment can offer real hope

This is Part 1 of a two-part series. It’s dense, technical, and absolutely essential listening if you’re a patient or provider trying to navigate the maze of chronic illness.