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  • BI 138 Matthew Larkum: The Dendrite Hypothesis

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    Matthew Larkum runs his lab at Humboldt University of Berlin, where his group studies how dendrites contribute to  computations within and across layers of the neocortex. Since the late 1990s, Matthew has continued to uncover key properties of the way pyramidal neurons stretch across layers of the cortex, their dendrites receiving inputs from those different layers - and thus different brain areas. For example, layer 5 pyramidal neurons have a set of basal dendrites near the cell body that receives feedforward-like input, and a set of apical dendrites all the way up in layer 1 that receives feedback--like input. Depending on which set of dendrites is receiving input, or neither or both, the neuron's output functions in different modes- silent, regular spiking, or burst spiking. Matthew realized the different sets of dendritic inputs could signal different operations, often pairing feedforward sensory--like signals and feedback context-like signals. His research has shown this kind of coincidence detection is important for cognitive functions like perception, memory, learning, and even wakefulness. We discuss many of his ideas and research findings, why dendrites have long been neglected in favor of neuron cell bodies, the possibility of learning about computations by studying implementation-level phenomena, and much more.

    • Larkum Lab.
    • Twitter: @mattlark.
    • Related papers
      • Cellular Mechanisms of Conscious Processing.
      • Perirhinal input to neocortical layer 1 controls learning. (bioRxiv link: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/713883v1)
      • Are dendrites conceptually useful?
      • Memories off the top of your head.
      • Do Action Potentials Cause Consciousness?
    • Blake Richard's episode discussing back-propagation in the brain (based on Matthew's experiments)

    0:00 - Intro

    5:31 - Background: Dendrites
    23:20 - Cortical neuron bodies vs. branches
    25:47 - Theories of cortex
    30:49 - Feedforward and feedback hierarchy
    37:40 - Dendritic integration hypothesis
    44:32 - DIT vs. other consciousness theories
    51:30 - Mac Shine Q1
    1:04:38 - Are dendrites conceptually useful?
    1:09:15 - Insights from implementation level
    1:24:44 - How detailed to model?
    1:28:15 - Do action potentials cause consciousness?
    1:40:33 - Mac Shine Q2

    1 hr 52 min
  • BI 137 Brian Butterworth: Can Fish Count?

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    Brian Butterworth is Emeritus Professor of Cognitive Neuropsychology at University College London. In his book, Can Fish Count?: What Animals Reveal About Our Uniquely Mathematical Minds, he describes the counting and numerical abilities across many different species, suggesting our ability to count is evolutionarily very old (since many diverse species can count). We discuss many of the examples in his book, the mathematical disability dyscalculia and its relation to dyslexia, how to test counting abilities in various species, how counting may happen in brains, the promise of creating artificial networks that can do math, and many more topics.

    • Brian's website: The Mathematical Brain
    • Twitter: @b_butterworth
    • The book:
      • Can Fish Count?: What Animals Reveal About Our Uniquely Mathematical Minds

    0:00 - Intro

    3:19 - Why Counting?
    5:31 - Dyscalculia
    12:06 - Dyslexia
    19:12 - Counting
    26:37 - Origins of counting vs. language
    34:48 - Counting vs. higher math
    46:46 - Counting some things and not others
    53:33 - How to test counting
    1:03:30 - How does the brain count?
    1:13:10 - Are numbers real?

    1 hr 18 min
  • BI 136 Michel Bitbol and Alex Gomez-Marin: Phenomenology

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    Michel Bitbol is Director of Research at CNRS (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique). Alex Gomez-Marin is a neuroscientist running his lab, The Behavior of Organisms Laboratory, at the Instituto de Neurociencias in Alicante. We discuss phenomenology as an alternative perspective on our scientific endeavors. Although we like to believe our science is objective and explains the reality of the world we inhabit, we can't escape the fact that all of our scientific knowledge comes through our perceptions and interpretations as conscious living beings. Michel has used phenomenology to resolve many of the paradoxes that quantum mechanics generates when it is understood as a description of reality, and more recently he has applied phenomenology to the philosophy of mind and consciousness. Alex is currently trying to apply the phenomenological approach to his research on brains and behavior. Much of our conversation revolves around how phenomenology and our "normal" scientific explorations can co-exist, including the study of minds, brains, and intelligence- our own and that of other organisms. We also discuss the "blind spot" of science, the history and practice of phenomenology, various kinds of explanation, the language we use to describe things, and more.

    • Michel's website
    • Alex's Lab: The Behavior of Organisms Laboratory.
    • Twitter: @behaviOrganisms (Alex)
    • Related papers
      • The Blind Spot of Neuroscience  
      • The Life of Behavior
      • A Clash of Umwelts 
    • Related events:
      • The Future Scientist (a conversation series)

    0:00 - Intro

    4:32 - The Blind Spot
    15:53 - Phenomenology and interpretation
    22:51 - Personal stories: appreciating phenomenology
    37:42 - Quantum physics example
    47:16 - Scientific explanation vs. phenomenological description
    59:39 - How can phenomenology and science complement each other?
    1:08:22 - Neurophenomenology
    1:17:34 - Use of language
    1:25:46 - Mutual constraints

    1 hr 35 min
  • BI 135 Elena Galea: The Stars of the Brain

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    Brains are often conceived as consisting of neurons and "everything else." As Elena discusses, the "everything else," including glial cells and in particular astrocytes, have largely been ignored in neuroscience. That's partly because the fast action potentials of neurons have been assumed to underlie computations in the brain, and because technology only recently afforded closer scrutiny of astrocyte activity. Now that we can record calcium signaling in astrocytes, it's possible to relate how astrocyte signaling with each other and with neurons may complement the cognitive roles once thought the sole domain of neurons. Although the computational role of astrocytes remains unclear, it is clear that astrocytes interact with neurons and neural circuits in dynamic and interesting ways. We talk about the historical story of astrocytes, the emerging modern story, and Elena shares her views on the path forward to understand astrocyte function in cognition, disease, homeostasis, and - Elena's favorite current hypothesis - their integrative role in negative feedback control.

    • Elena's website.
    • Twitter: @elenagalea1
    • Related papers
      • A roadmap to integrate astrocytes into Systems Neuroscience.
      • Elena recommended this paper: Biological feedback control—Respect the loops.

    0:00 - Intro

    5:23 - The changing story of astrocytes
    14:58 - Astrocyte research lags neuroscience
    19:45 - Types of astrocytes
    23:06 - Astrocytes vs neurons
    26:08 - Computational roles of astrocytes
    35:45 - Feedback control
    43:37 - Energy efficiency
    46:25 - Current technology
    52:58 - Computational astroscience
    1:10:57 - Do names for things matter

    1 hr 18 min
  • BI 134 Mandyam Srinivasan: Bee Flight and Cognition

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    Srini is Emeritus Professor at Queensland Brain Institute in Australia. In this episode, he shares his wide range of behavioral experiments elucidating the principles of flight and navigation in insects. We discuss how bees use optic flow signals to determine their speed, distance, proximity to objects, and to gracefully land. These abilities are largely governed via control systems, balancing incoming perceptual signals with internal reference signals. We also talk about a few of the aerial robotics projects his research has inspired, many of the other cognitive skills bees can learn, the possibility of their feeling pain , and the nature of their possible subjective conscious experience.

    • Srini's Website.
    • Related papers
      • Vision, perception, navigation and 'cognition' in honeybees and applications to aerial robotics.

    0:00 - Intro

    3:34 - Background
    8:20 - Bee experiments
    14:30 - Bee flight and navigation
    28:05 - Landing
    33:06 - Umwelt and perception
    37:26 - Bee-inspired aerial robotics
    49:10 - Motion camouflage
    51:52 - Cognition in bees
    1:03:10 - Small vs. big brains
    1:06:42 - Pain in bees
    1:12:50 - Subjective experience
    1:15:25 - Deep learning
    1:23:00 - Path forward

    1 hr 27 min
  • BI 133 Ken Paller: Lucid Dreaming, Memory, and Sleep

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    Ken discusses the recent work in his lab that allows communication with subjects while they experience lucid dreams. This new paradigm opens many avenues to study the neuroscience and psychology of consciousness, sleep, dreams, memory, and learning, and to improve and optimize sleep for cognition. Ken and his team are developing a Lucid Dreaming App which is freely available via his lab. We also discuss much of his work on memory and learning in general and specifically related to sleep, like reactivating specific memories during sleep to improve learning.

    • Ken's Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory.
    • Twitter: @kap101.
    • The Lucid Dreaming App.
    • Related papers
      • Memory and Sleep: How Sleep Cognition Can Change the Waking Mind for the Better.
      • Does memory reactivation during sleep support generalization at the cost of memory specifics?
      • Real-time dialogue between experimenters and dreamers during REM sleep.

    0:00 - Intro

    2:48 - Background and types of memory
    14:44 -Consciousness and memory
    23:32 - Phases and sleep and wakefulness
    28:19 - Sleep, memory, and learning
    33:50 - Targeted memory reactivation
    48:34 - Problem solving during sleep
    51:50 - 2-way communication with lucid dreamers
    1:01:43 - Confounds to the paradigm
    1:04:50 - Limitations and future studies
    1:09:35 - Lucid dreaming app
    1:13:47 - How sleep can inform AI
    1:20:18 - Advice for students

    1 hr 30 min
  • BI 132 Ila Fiete: A Grid Scaffold for Memory
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    Ila discusses her theoretical neuroscience work suggesting how our memories are formed within the cognitive maps we use to navigate the world and navigate our thoughts. The main idea is that grid cell networks in the entorhinal cortex internally generate a structured scaffold, which gets sent to the hippocampus. Neurons in the hippocampus, like the well-known place cells, receive that scaffolding and also receive external signals from the neocortex- signals about what's happening in the world and in our thoughts. Thus, the place cells act to "pin" what's happening in our neocortex to the scaffold, forming a memory. We also discuss her background as a physicist and her approach as a "neurophysicist", and a review she's publishing all about the many brain areas and cognitive functions being explained as attractor landscapes within a dynamical systems framework.

    • The Fiete Lab.
    • Related papers
      • A structured scaffold underlies activity in the hippocampus.
      • Attractor and integrator networks in the brain.

    0:00 - Intro

    3:36 - "Neurophysicist"
    9:30 - Bottom-up vs. top-down
    15:57 - Tool scavenging
    18:21 - Cognitive maps and hippocampus
    22:40 - Hopfield networks
    27:56 - Internal scaffold
    38:42 - Place cells
    43:44 - Grid cells
    54:22 - Grid cells encoding place cells
    59:39 - Scaffold model: stacked hopfield networks
    1:05:39 - Attractor landscapes
    1:09:22 - Landscapes across scales
    1:12:27 - Dimensionality of landscapes

    1 hr 18 min
  • BI 131 Sri Ramaswamy and Jie Mei: Neuromodulation-aware DNNs

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    Sri and Mei join me to discuss how including principles of neuromodulation in deep learning networks may improve network performance. It's an ever-present question how much detail to include in models, and we are in the early stages of learning how neuromodulators and their interactions shape biological brain function. But as we continue to learn more, Sri and Mei are interested in building "neuromodulation-aware DNNs".

    • Neural Circuits Laboratory.
    • Twitter: Sri: @srikipedia; Jie: @neuro_Mei.
    • Related papers
      • Informing deep neural networks by multiscale principles of neuromodulatory systems.

    0:00 - Intro

    3:10 - Background
    9:19 - Bottom-up vs. top-down
    14:42 - Levels of abstraction
    22:46 - Biological neuromodulation
    33:18 - Inventing neuromodulators
    41:10 - How far along are we?
    53:31 - Multiple realizability
    1:09:40 -Modeling dendrites
    1:15:24 - Across-species neuromodulation

    1 hr 27 min
  • BI 130 Eve Marder: Modulation of Networks

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    Eve discusses many of the lessons she has learned studying a small nervous system, the crustacean stomatogastric nervous system (STG). The STG has only about 30 neurons and its connections and neurophysiology are well-understood. Yet Eve's work has shown it functions under a remarkable diversity of conditions, and does so is a remarkable variety of ways. We discuss her work on the STG specifically, and what her work implies about trying to study much larger nervous systems, like our human brains.

    • The Marder Lab.
    • Twitter: @MarderLab.
    • Related to our conversation:
      • Understanding Brains: Details, Intuition, and Big Data.
      • Emerging principles governing the operation of neural networks (Eve mentions this regarding "building blocks" of neural networks).

    0:00 - Intro

    3:58 - Background
    8:00 - Levels of ambiguity
    9:47 - Stomatogastric nervous system
    17:13 - Structure vs. function
    26:08 - Role of theory
    34:56 - Technology vs. understanding
    38:25 - Higher cognitive function
    44:35 - Adaptability, resilience, evolution
    50:23 - Climate change
    56:11 - Deep learning
    57:12 - Dynamical systems

    1 hr 1 min
  • BI 129 Patryk Laurent: Learning from the Real World

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    Patryk and I discuss his wide-ranging background working in both the neuroscience and AI worlds, and his resultant perspective on what's needed to move forward in AI, including some principles of brain processes that are more and less important. We also discuss his own work using some of those principles to help deep learning generalize to better capture how humans behave in and perceive the world.

    • Patryk's homepage.
    • Twitter: @paklnet.
    • Related papers
      • Unsupervised Learning from Continuous Video in a Scalable Predictive Recurrent Network.

    0:00 - Intro

    2:22 - Patryk's background
    8:37 - Importance of diverse skills
    16:14 - What is intelligence?
    20:34 - Important brain principles
    22:36 - Learning from the real world
    35:09 - Language models
    42:51 - AI contribution to neuroscience
    48:22 - Criteria for "real" AI
    53:11 - Neuroscience for AI
    1:01:20 - What can we ignore about brains?
    1:11:45 - Advice to past self

    1 hr 22 min

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