Episode 5

In this episode of the Santam Insure Your Future Money Bootcamp, my co-host Maya Fisher-French and I sit down with Brian Mphakoanyane from Summit Financial to unpack one of the most important conversations in personal finance: DEBT!

From credit scores to debt counselling, Brian breaks down the realities of borrowing, the traps to avoid, and the practical steps you can take to get back in control of your money.

We talk about:
✅ The difference between good debt and bad debt
✅ How your credit score really works
✅ What to do when debt becomes overwhelming
✅ Debt review — the pros, the cons, and when it makes sense
✅ Why an emergency fund matters (even while in debt)

🎯 Whether you’re just starting your financial journey or trying to climb out of debt, this conversation is full of real, actionable insights to help you protect your future and move closer to financial freedom.