Dads And Daddies

Brian and Judson hookup with Darrell Martin


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Judson gets his first tattoo and shares his feelings about hooking up with dog owners. Brian experiences a near-perfect hookup minutes before enduring a far-from-perfect parenting moment. They listen to a short-and-sweet Hookup of the Week that, while quick, was a year in the making. The two are then joined by psychotherapist and musician Darrell Martin. Darrell’s journey takes him from New York’s legendary ballroom scene, appearing in the landmark documentary "Paris Is Burning," to writing and producing music for icons such as RuPaul, Pink, and Sheryl Lee Ralph, to his work as an award-winning mental healthcare leader at the intersection of creativity and healing. He talks to Brian and Judson about being a parent to five kids, conquering anxiety, combating shame, harm reduction and sobriety, abandonment issues, polyamory, the alternate definition of “fuck up,” the one and only time he met his father, and the home he found with the House of Xtravaganza. Darrell then helps Brian and Judson respond to a Go Ask Your Dad question from a listener whose open relationship is making him feel inadequate, insecure, and jealous.

Find Darrell Martin on the Web: https://darrellmartin.org/

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Dads And DaddiesBy Brian Rubin-Sowers and Judson Morrow

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