The war to fight Russia's invasion is the most important story in Ukraine. But what comes after the war? Tamar Jacoby, head of The New Ukraine Project, joins the podcast to discuss Ukraine's efforts to build a stronger society. We discuss Ukraine's history of poverty and corruption, what's being done to address issues like corruption, what the Ukrainian people really want, and how much more liberal and democratic Ukraine can become in the near future.

Check out the New Ukraine Project from PPI - https://www.progressivepolicy.org/project/new-ukraine-project/

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