Lazy Leverage

Building Business Leverage | Lazy Leverage #15


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In this episode, I connect with Peter Lohmann (@pslohmann), a significant figure in the SMB space known for his deep insights and influential presence. Our discussions on small and medium business (SMB) issues have always been enriching, prompting us to record our latest conversation for a broader audience. We dive into the concept of building business leverage, discussing everything from the nuances of high-leverage work to the practicalities of hiring and employee management across various business sizes.


Through our conversation, you'll discover:

00:00 - Reconnecting and setting the scene for our discussion on leveraging business dynamics.

00:26 - Delving into the impact and creation of content as a leverage tool in business.

01:18 - Reflecting on the excitement of live events and the challenges of shifting focus in business strategies.

03:03 - Examining the allure of high-leverage work and its implications for business transitions.

04:45 - Jon's transition to embracing 'lazy leverage' and the reasoning behind strategic business laziness.

06:50 - Discussing the misconceptions of fame and success in the business world.

09:10 - Addressing the struggle with high-priced fixed costs and the quest for sustainable business models.

17:01 - Debating the dilemma of hiring in-house marketing versus outsourcing for flexibility and efficiency.

21:37 - The critical role of equity and ownership in fostering business commitment and accountability.

22:20 - Highlighting the power of accountability in leadership and its impact on business culture.

23:20 - Exploring local accountability and its influence on organizational culture and success.

23:47 - The importance of normative accountability in achieving business objectives.

25:03 - How revenue models profoundly affect business operations and strategic decisions.

25:48 - Navigating the challenge of hiring the right talent for optimal business growth.

26:31 - Emphasizing the importance of focus for achieving business success.

27:33 - The indispensable role of CEOs in spearheading business growth and direction.

28:07 - The effectiveness of single-minded focus in driving business achievements.

28:48 - Managing the complexities of juggling multiple business interests and ventures.

37:45 - The unique role of satire in public debate and its unexpected relevance to business discussions.

39:52 - Wrapping up with insights on understanding the business scale and leveraging it for success.


Peter and I tackle these topics with candidness and depth, offering listeners a comprehensive look into leveraging business practices for success and growth. Whether you're a seasoned business owner or navigating the early stages of entrepreneurship, this conversation is packed with valuable lessons and strategies.


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Stay tuned for our next episode, "Building Strong and Successful Business Partnerships," where Peter Lohmann and I delve into the complexities of establishing and nurturing effective business partnerships, sharing our experiences and insights on overcoming challenges and maximizing partnership potential.


Keep up with the latest insights by following @MatznerJon on Twitter and subscribing to our newsletter at lazyleverage.beehiiv.com.

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