Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Welcome to episode 420! Today, it's just me, and I'm tackling one of the most frequently asked questions I’ve received since the release of my first book, If I Don’t Laugh, I’ll Cry. And that is… “How do I get a book published?”

A recent study showed that more than 80% of Americans dream of writing and publishing a book. So, in today’s conversation, I’m going to walk you through the basics of book publishing and share the tips and tricks I learned along the way.

If you've ever imagined holding your own book in your hands or are just curious about the publishing world, stick around. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a clearer idea of where to start and how the process works!

2:37 – Understanding Your Options 

·      The different approaches to publishing

·      Getting an agent

·      Creating a book proposal

 6:50 – Finding Your Team

·      Researching agents who specialize in your genre

·      Putting together your query letter

·      Showing agents your personality

12:03 – The Book Proposal Process

·      What is a book proposal?

·      Showing your knowledge and commitment

·      Sample chapters 

15:49 – Self-Publishing and Hybrid Publishing

·      Hiring your team

·      Don’t forget about marketing!

·      Considerations for hybrid publishing

19:25 – Okay… So Where Do I Start?! 

·      Polishing your manuscript

·      Having a book proposal

·      Defining your goals + researching options

·      Establishing relationships + thinking about marketing

·      Don’t give up! 

FEATURED QUOTES 

“If you don't hear back or you get a rejection, you can't let it discourage you. Tons of successful, famous authors have received multiple rejections before finding the right fit. So, you are not alone. It is part of the process.” 

“The writing community in general is incredibly supportive and has been vital in my own process.” 

“Publishing a book, writing a book is a marathon, not a sprint…Rejections are going to happen. Timelines are going to change. Things are not going to go the way that you want them to go, but you have to keep going. You have to have that end goal in mind and focus on the end result that you're really, really looking for, because that part is incredibly rewarding.”

Punchline Agency

https://punchlineagency.com/

Hope Writers

https://www.hopewriters.com/

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world. 

I'm thrilled to welcome my dear friend, Mattie Jackson, back to the show! You may remember her from earlier this year, and I was so inspired by our chat that I had to invite her back- especially with the release of her new book, Through the Valley of Grief. 

Mattie is an author, podcaster, and speaker whose life changed dramatically when she tragically lost her 28-year-old husband to a traumatic brain injury just weeks before their first anniversary. Despite her grief, she has used her story to give glory to God and to bring others hope and healing.

Her new book is a 365-day devotional, carefully crafted to guide readers through spiritual practices that offer hope and peace during times of grief. If you or someone you know is walking through loss right now, I hope that this episode- and Mattie’s devotional- will be a source of comfort and inspiration. 

6:02 – Mattie 201

•    Having a baby •    Releasing her second book •    The difference between Lemons and this new devotional

13:52 – Walking Through Grief

•    The four practices to navigate grief •    Feeling grief without getting stuck in it •    Actions and tools to move toward hope and healing

27:02 – Finding Freedom In Hope

•    The courage required to hope •    Don’t let Satan steal present joy •    God’s message of hope

41:23 – Closing Remarks

•    Helping others through the grieving process •    Getting your copy of Mattie’s book

FEATURED QUOTES

“This was really hard fought, hard written, five years in the making- and it was a lot of work, and so I'm really proud of it in that way as a writer.”

“We need to be affirmed in our pain, and that's important, but we also need to be called to act in it.”

“There is such freedom in the action of hoping, even though you don't know what the final outcome is going to be.”

“The courage to hope in a very broken situation, in a very rightly anxiety-producing world, is going to only come from God's Word.”

Learn more about Mattie:

Get your copy of Through The Valley of Grief

https://www.amazon.com/Through-Valley-Grief-Devotional-Spiritual/dp/0593601238

Get your copy of Lemons On Friday

https://www.amazon.com/Lemons-Friday-Trusting-Greatest-Heartbreak/dp/0785241272/ref=asc_df_0785241272?nodl=1&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=675601147131&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16219095298050732835&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYtFXuwWotiZA-6LEU-IvYhl8AlHMjw6dcuilzZnQUl6pI2as2x1W99FzU_aem_PH7jpc88JU1KxPkE8PIAgA

Mattie on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/mattiejackson/?hl=en

Mattie on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/mattiejacksonofficial/

In Joy Life Podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-joy-life-with-mattie-jackson/id1667357187

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world. 

My guest this week is the incredible and hilarious Joby Martin, the lead pastor of The Church of Eleven22 in Jacksonville, Florida. Since launching the church in 2012, Joby has been at the forefront of a movement that helps people from all walks of life discover and deepen their relationship with Jesus. 

Beyond his leadership at The Church of Eleven22, Joby is also an author, speaker, husband, and father of two beautiful children. His newest book Run Over By the Grace Train: How the Unstoppable Love of God Transforms Everything just hit shelves this September. 

I hope you’ll join us today as we talk about this concept of grace and explore how we can better understand and apply it in our daily lives. I had an absolute blast learning from Joby's wisdom and getting into the nitty gritty on this subject! 

2:09 – Joby 101

Getting saved in high school Feeling called to ministry Planting a church in Jacksonville Connecting to people through comedy

12:30 – The Importance Of Grace In Today’s Culture

How grace is often misunderstood and misapplied Grace transforms everything We need grace daily

16:37 – Defining Grace

How grace is defined by scripture  Grace brings the dead to life God’s relentless pursuit of us

26:50 – Encouragement For Those Struggling With Grace

Investigating the Bible and seeking a relationship with Jesus The Gospel of John Being open to the transformative power of grace

35:18 – Final Thoughts

Who is Jesus to you? Everything Jesus has for us is good Grace has a face Connecting with Joby

FEATURED QUOTES

“I've also realized in preaching, if I just preach from my own failures and weaknesses, I never run out of material.”

“If you got hit by a train, your whole life would be different. You can't say that you've been hit by the grace of Jesus, and things don't change in your life.”

“I promise you, there's more grace in Jesus than sin in you, and He wants you, and He's not disappointed to choose you.”

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Learn more about Joby:

https://www.jobymartin.com/

Get your copy of Run Over By The Grace Train

https://www.jobymartin.com/books/grace-train

Church of Eleven22

https://coe22.com/

Joby on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/jobypmartin/

Joby on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/@jobypmartin

Joby on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/PastorJobyMartin

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world. 

You are in for a treat this week! My guest is the hilarious and amazing Sophie Hudson. Sophie is a best-selling author and a beloved podcaster who started blogging at BooMama.net in 2005 and has co-hosted The Big Boo Cast since 2007- roles that make her feel like the internet's mee-maw. She's known for her infectious laugh, love of live sports, and cooking her mama's recipes for friends.

Her latest book, A Fine Sight to See: Leading Because You Were Made for It, explores leadership principles from the book of Exodus, touching on the important role women played in Moses’s life and the Israelites’ journey to freedom. Sophie’s approachable style and love for laughter make her work- and this episode- so insightful and incredibly fun. We had an absolute blast as Sophie shared her heart and her wisdom. You don’t want to miss this one!

2:23 – Sophie 101

Southern accents, morning weddings & the power of a good nap Living in Birmingham, Alabama  Starting a blog in 2005 and co-hosting a podcast An unexpected journey to full-time writing

20:42 – Women In Leadership

How Sophie landed on Exodus 1-20 for her book The challenges women face in leadership roles in the church Using the language of leadership for women

33:40 – Developing Humble Leadership

The balance between confidence and humility in leadership Leadership that reminds people of who God is Leading with a quiet life Practicing your gifts in private

45:58 – Closing Thoughts

Bonding over musical theater Getting your copy of A Fine Sight To See

FEATURED QUOTES

“I think Moses is a leadership manual for all of us, women or men.”

“We need men to lead, but we also need women to lead, and women are underrepresented in leadership in our churches.”

“If you have influence over one other person, you're a leader in that person's life.”

Learn more about Sophie:

BooMama

https://www.boomama.net/

https://www.boomama.net/about-me/

Get your copy of A Fine Sight To See 

https://www.amazon.com/Fine-Sight-See-Leading-Because/dp/0764243349

Sophie on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/boomama205/?hl=en

Sophie on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/SophieHudsonBooMama/

The Big Boo Cast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-boo-cast/id262921699

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world. 

I’m so excited to welcome the hilarious and amazing Ellen Skrmetti to the show today! Ellen first rose to fame during the COVID-19 pandemic, capturing hearts with her Instagram sketches where she "calls" Jesus for advice. Her account went viral in the spring of 2022, racking up millions of views and a devoted following.

Now, Ellen has just released her first book, Hey Jesus, It’s Me: I Have Questions, Comments, and Concerns, where she brings her signature Southern charm and wit to tackle topics like motherhood, menopause, and menus- subjects her fans have come to love.

Trust me, you won't want to miss this episode- Ellen and I had a blast (and even did a bit or two). I can’t wait for you to hear it!

7:35 – Ellen 101

Studying at Second City Growing an Instagram following Starting comedy after a career in advertising sales Waiting on God’s timing

12:52 – God Math

The importance of timing and faith  Doing your reasonable best

16:33 – Faith, Comedy, and Southern Charm

How Ellen’s faith and Southern upbringing influence her comedy The mix of truth and absurdity in comedy  Starting rumors about Nate Bargatze!!

22:41 – Hey Jesus!

The evolution of Ellen’s sketches How the “Hey Jesus” sketches resonated with people Wholesome and positive comedy in a world filled with negativity Menopause, y’all!

31:34 – Final thoughts

Connecting with Ellen Getting your copy of Hey Jesus

FEATURED QUOTES

“Even though my path is so unconventional... it's God's path.”

“My goal with the book is for people to remember that He does want our sad, He does want our fears, He wants everything… He wants to laugh with you. I mean, He created laughter.”

"People want something wholesome and people want something to cling to that's positive because there's so much negative."

Learn more about Ellen:

https://ellenskrmetti.com/

Ellen on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/justskrmetti/?hl=en

Get your copy of Hey Jesus

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1546007040?tag=hacboogrosit-20

Ellen’s upcoming shows and signings

https://ellenskrmetti.com/about-appearances/

Ellen on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmYobCHqa6CKHHjutgw80rw

Ellen on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/ellen.skrmetti/

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world.

My guest this week is Jonny Ardavanis, Lead Pastor of Stonebridge Bible Church in Franklin, Tennessee, and founder of Dial In Ministries, an organization dedicated to providing biblical resources for the next generation. Previously serving as a camp director at Hume Lake Christian Camps and dean at The Master's University, Jonny’s passion is helping people know and love Jesus through a deeper understanding of His Word. 

In this episode, we dive into his new book, Consider the Lilies: Finding Perfect Peace in the Character of God. With statistics showing that one-third of teenagers have been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder and one in four young adults have experienced suicidal thoughts in recent years, Jonny offers a compassionate, biblically-centered approach to addressing anxiety, depression, and other mental health struggles.

This is such a powerful and timely conversation, whether you're personally navigating these challenges or supporting someone who is. You don’t want to miss this!

2:26 – Jonny 101

Husband and girl dad Pastor of Stonebridge Bible Church in Tennessee President of Dial In Ministries

4:35 – Consider The Lilies

Jonny’s experience at Hume Lake Providing a resource that addresses anxiety from a biblical perspective Understanding God’s character in addressing anxiety

12:12 – Living In An Anxious World

The root causes of anxiety and worry The stories of Job, David and Elijah Jesus addressing anxiety in scripture

31:28 – Finding Hope and Healing

Experiencing holy hindsight Practical steps for those dealing with anxiety Christian counseling and community support The hope and joy found in Christ

FEATURED QUOTES

“To be human in the world in which we live is to be prone to anxiety.”

“What is anxiety? Well, I use the definition that it's anytime we take our eyes off of God and fix our gaze instead on the problems, pressures, and uncertainties of life.”

“If God loves, cares, provides for the lilies and the birds…how much more does God love, provide, care and nurture those who are made in His image and who have been blood bought by his one and only Son, Jesus Christ?”

Learn more about Jonny:

https://www.forthegospel.org/jonny-ardavanis

Jonny on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/jonnyardavanis/?hl=en

Pre-order your copy of Consider The Lilies

https://www.amazon.com/Consider-Lilies-Finding-Perfect-Character/dp/0310368243

Stonebridge Bible Church

https://stonebridgebible.org/

Dial In Ministries 

https://dialinministries.org/

Dial In Ministries on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGB5fYWHTNemqp9aZC232eg

Dial In Ministries on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/dialinministries/?hl=en

Dial In Ministries on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/p/Dial-In-Ministries-100063760952717/

Dial In Podcast

https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/3166a6da-ec56-457f-a56b-f513711d2dfe/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis

Bio Jonny Ardavanis is the lead pastor of Stonebridge Bible Church in Franklin, Tennessee, and the founder and president of Dial In Ministries, a ministry that provides biblical resourcing for the next generation. Jonny formerly served as both a camp director at Hume Lake Christian Camps and as a dean at The Master’s University. Jonny is passionate that people come to know and love Jesus Christ as they pursue a deeper understanding of His Word. Jonny lives in Franklin, Tennessee, with his wife, Caity Jean, and their two daughters.       

DialinMinistries.org instagram.com/JonnyArdavanis ; instagram.com/DialinMinistries youtube.com/@DialinMinistries x.com/DialinMin Podcast: Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world.

My guest today is my dear friend, Dr. Steve Bezner. Steve is the senior pastor of Houston Northwest Church, in Houston Texas. His passion is to see Houston and the world become more like heaven as people become more like Jesus. He’s a preacher, teacher, writer, and speaker and has such a gift for making the Bible easy to understand.

Steve’s new book is releasing this October, called Your Jesus is Too American: Calling the Church to Reclaim Kingdom Values over the American Dream, which I’m so excited to talk about today. In this book, Steve challenges the overpowering influences of money, politics, and status that often overshadow Jesus' teachings.

With over a decade of pastoral experience, Steve encourages readers to rediscover important kingdom values like humble service, reconciliation, generosity, and a grounded political witness in our communities. This is such an incredible book, and I strongly believe it’s a must-read as we head into this election season. 

So, without further ado, let’s get into it!

5:44 – Steve 101

Pastor of Houston Northwest Church Growing up in north Texas Being called to ministry Two adult sons

7:36 – The Genesis Of The Book

The inspiration behind Your Jesus Is Too American The book’s foundation in the Sermon on the Mount Embodying the kingdom of God in the middle of community

15:29 – Living Out Kingdom Values 

Being disciples of Jesus first Focusing on issues rather than candidates Turning to scripture and working towards the vision of Jesus locally Jesus’ command to love your enemy

34:33 – Faith In Action

Embodying Jesus in our daily lives Recognizing ingrained beliefs that conflict with Jesus’ words Stepping into the lived experience of the kingdom Pre-ordering your copy of Your Jesus Is Too American

FEATURED QUOTES

“The purpose of a church is to provide faithful witness for Jesus in the midst of a community that often wants to ignore Jesus and ignore His way.”

“The first and most important identity needs to be your identity in Christ and joining into His story.”

“When you die to the American dream and you embrace the way of Jesus, you actually end up having a far better experience of being human than you could ever imagine.”

Learn more about Steve:

https://www.stevebezner.com/

Get your copy of Your Jesus Is Too American

https://www.amazon.com/Your-Jesus-Too-American-Calling/dp/1587436310

Houston NW Church

https://www.hnw.org/

Steve on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/sbezner/

Steve on X

https://x.com/bezner

Steve on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/sbezner/?hl=en

Connect with me:

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http://instagram.com/stillbeingmolly

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http://facebook.com/stillbeingmolly

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world.

I’m thrilled to welcome the incredible, hilarious, and brilliant Chase Rashad to the show. Chase is the lead pastor at Unison Christian Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He is also a musician and a racial equity coach for many schools, churches, and businesses. 

Chase recently released a new book, Seamless: What Your Spiritual Gifts Are Really For, exploring how spiritual gifts, intended by God to transform the world, are often underutilized. He reminds us that, like a human body has many different parts and functions, every believer has a unique role to play in the Body of Christ.

This conversation was truly special. We laughed, we got deep, and this quickly became one of my favorite episodes in a long time. Chase’s insights on community, the role of spiritual gifts, and the importance of working together within the church were so inspiring and thought-provoking. Trust me, you’re in for a treat this week!

3:56 – Chase 101

Married for 19 years Parent to 4 humans and a great dane Pastor, singer, writer, musician and author The perfect shade of green and sanctified imagination

12:49 – What Your Spiritual Gifts Are Really For

Where Chase’s passion for this book came from The importance of unity among believers 1 Corinthians 12 Spiritual gifts as a way to serve others

24:44 – The Power of Every Gift

Recognizing and honoring all gifts The danger of only valuing visible or “up front” gifts The detrimental effects of isolation  How spiritual gifts are often best discovered and used in community

39:30 – Discovering Your Spiritual Gifts

Identifying your gifts in community Spiritual gifts as a conversation starter Praying over your skills and talents Connecting with Chase

FEATURED QUOTES

“It’s not hung on, how big our churches are, how dope our podcasts are, how good our books are, and how great we sing… Our witness for Christ is hung on our love for each other and our unity. And that was really the burden by which I wrote Seamless.”

“If you're working against your ability to be united, you're also working against your ability to show the world Jesus.”

“Our purpose isn't to memorize Scripture with each other. Our purpose isn't to sing songs to one another. Our purpose isn't even to just make sure that we're good. Our purpose is to make disciples.”

Learn more about Chase:

Get your copy of Seamless

https://www.amazon.com/Seamless-What-Spiritual-Gifts-Really/dp/1632575841 Unison Christian Church

https://unisongr.churchcenter.com/home

Unison Christian Church Podcast 

https://unisoncc.podbean.com/

Chase’s Music

https://music.apple.com/us/artist/chase-rashad/1481147224

Chase on LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chase-r-stancle-sr-b577b068/

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world. 

This week, I'm so excited to welcome Sandra Stanley and her daughter, Allie Stanley Cooney, as our guests. Sandra, a familiar face on the show, is a dedicated foster parent, foster advocate, and co-author of the book Parenting: Getting It Right.

This time, Sandra is joined by her daughter, Allie, who has a Master’s in Christian Education and background in student ministry, to discuss their book Meet Me in the Middle: 8 Mother-Daughter Conversations about Life and Faith. 

This book is such an incredible resource for those looking to strengthen their relationship with young girls in their lives. As a mom of a tween girl myself, this conversation was so insightful and encouraging. Moms, grandmas, sisters, dads, uncles, and mentors- there is something in this episode for you! 

4:52 – Allie 101

Georgia native, pastor family, youngest of 3 Background in student ministry and Christian education Wife and mom

7:27 – Sandra 201

Life as a grandmother Writing a book with Allie 36 years of marriage

8:26 – Writing a Book Together

What led Sandra and Allie to write this book  Having hard conversations ahead of time Setting your child up for success

15:24 – The Imperfect Path of Parenting

Appreciating a parent’s love when you become a parent Making mistakes as a parent Allowing children to make mistakes in a safe environment The unique dynamic of a mother/daughter relationship  Philippians 4:4-9 as a foundation for this book

28:16 – Meet Me In The Middle

How this book is structured  Identity and self-worth in middle and high school What we model matters Parenting in the age of social media Helping your children own their faith

48:17 – Final Thoughts

Navigating big feelings with your children Getting your copy of Meet Me In The Middle Encouragement for moms and mentors

FEATURED QUOTES

“If we can bridge the gap between moms and daughters so that they can have some of the hard conversations ahead of time, before…. there's conflict and tension…it is such a win when those hard times come.”

“We really wanted to structure it in a way that a grandmother or an aunt or a mentor could also pick it up and do this with the young lady in their life that they love and who is important to them.”

“You don't have to change, you don't have to pretend, you don't have to give up hope, because Jesus did all of that on your behalf… You are enough and you are loved, and you are a child of God.”

“What we model matters, and it matters in the development of our children's faith and how they view their Heavenly Father.”

Learn more about Sandra and Allie:

https://www.sandrastanley.com/meetmeinthemiddle

Get your copy of Meet Me in the Middle 

https://www.amazon.com/Meet-Me-Middle-Mother-Daughter-Conversations/dp/0310368677

Get your copy of Parenting: Getting It Right

https://www.amazon.com/Parenting-Getting-Right-Andy-Stanley/dp/0310366275/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.zWEmq7GGvxYEchs0KShkw_xA3D4LBVR9tIJAm0eZLRgsDPFM_0sVtgStL4OceEucDiZxuWVTa7BVc4qDvnVWp7BeV1To3BFO9wjky07Q-79EBPiNXZ7kgu1gkj4eK0vUojrsnXGW9LG5NIcO6A9y3vGgpzBMRJ6okTT9KESOzRcswK2SRxd7AYBXH5v9trlMJNfAeRisd-GLAzzEHg0BnNrdhj8Ng9QM9egb7OTAdCo.K97LQwbs-mFGFmMBDRy1cpDI5RVsSO8JoZbkRnss_qA&dib_tag=se&hvadid=634502039983&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010494&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5591213651008220050&hvtargid=kwd-1913356014711&hydadcr=27890_14488800&keywords=parenting+getting+it+right&qid=1725999611&sr=8-1

Allie on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/alliekaycooney/?hl=en

Sandra on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/sandrawstanley/?hl=en

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world.

As we kick off the new school year, this conversation could not be timelier! My guest this week is the incredible Jennifer Pepito, who is on a mission to help moms create a home filled with peace, wonder, and purpose.

Jennifer is host of the Restoration Home Podcast, founder of The Peaceful Press, and author of the book Habits for a Sacred Home: 9 Practices from History to Anchor and Restore Modern Families. 

As a homeschooling mother of seven, Jennifer has a deep passion for equipping families to homeschool in a way that is developmentally appropriate, spiritually nourishing, and based on proven methods of education.

I’m so excited to have her on the show today to talk about her new book. Whether you homeschool or not, this conversation offers so much wisdom about building good habits in your home. I know you’re going to love it!

2:02 – Jennifer 101

• Mom of 7 children
• Homeschooling for 26 years
• Empowering moms to take action

5:23 – Intentional Parenting in a Chaotic World

• How Jennifer’s upbringing influenced her intentional parenting
• Having strong family practices to counterbalance culture’s chaos
• The power of simple habits, like family dinners and reading together

14:48 – Building Good Habits: Foundations for a Purposeful Life

• Utilizing and caring for what God has entrusted us with
• Balancing work and presence with your loved ones
• Staying committed to good practices even when results aren’t immediately visible
• Finding balance in consuming the news

27:54 – Final Thoughts

• Influential women of faith
• The Peaceful Press and resources for families
• Connecting with Jennifer

FEATURED QUOTES

“Just being humans in relationship with other humans, as opposed to living solely in a virtual reality world, is counter-cultural. And I wanted to highlight in this book how powerful it is just to be like a normal, sort of 1980s human.”

“Be faithful and trust that you sowed. Somebody else is going to water and make sure the harvest grows, and you don't know when that's going to happen. We aren't the potters. We are just the clay…Stay on the potting wheel and let God do what he's going to do, and just be faithful.”

“If we look at stories and we look at the Bible, we can be hopeful, but if we look at the news, we will be dysregulated, and our bodies will feel awful, and we'll have a really hard time being sweet with our kids.”

Learn more about Jennifer:

Get your copy of Habits For a Sacred Home

https://www.amazon.com/Habits-Sacred-Home-Practices-Families/dp/0764239546

The Peaceful Press

https://www.thepeacefulpreschool.com/

The Peaceful Press on Pinterest

https://www.pinterest.com/peacefulpress/

The Peaceful Press on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/thepeacefulpress/

The Peaceful Press on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/thepeacefulpress

Restoration Home with Jennifer Pepito Podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/restoration-home-with-jennifer-pepito/id1650672690

Connect with me:

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http://tiktok.com/@stillbeingmolly

GET YOUR COPY of ‘IF I DON’T LAUGH, I’LL CRY” TODAY:

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ChristianBook: https://bit.ly/IIDLICcb

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Indie Bound: https://bit.ly/IIDLICib

Audible: https://amzn.to/3ITcdm8

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About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?

Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? Podcast is a weekly podcast where we have honest conversations about faith, business, life, and everything in between. Hosted by speaker and author, Molly Stillman, her mission is to make you laugh, cry, and laugh till you cry. She wants to create a community of people who are unafraid to be themselves and have honest conversations about the things that matter most. Her vision is to create a safe space for people to explore their faith and share their stories and gifts with the world.