Episode 609: Neal and Toby sit down with branding and marketing expert Ashwinn Krishnaswamy (@shwinnabegobrand) about Apple’s recent WWDC conference and if its Liquid Glass redesign is worth the hype. Also, the latest brand moves by OpenAI, Nike, and HBO. Then, what’s the future of influencer marketing and how will AI become a powerful tool in the advertising business. Plus, what’s the real reason a company should do a rebrand and if it actually yields returns. Finally, a quick power ranking of some of the best marketing moves in the last couple years.

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