TW: This episode contains discussion of miscarriage and medical/surgical management of miscarriage.

We also briefly touch on Sian's successful pregnancy in a couple of places momentarily.

The episode we never wanted to have to record. We sadly discuss here Catherine and Carl's recent miscarriage. It's an emotional and real chat, as ever - we bring you everything, warts and all. However we manage some light and shade too.

We are sending love to anyone affected by pregnancy or baby loss.

Links for miscarriage support below:

https://theworstgirlgangever.co.uk/

https://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/

https://www.tommys.org/

https://www.sands.org.uk/

https://www.lullabytrust.org.uk/bereavement-support/practical-advice/places-to-go-for-support/