Triple Crowner, musician, and documentarian Ben "Shredder" Phantom stops by the studio to do some chin wagging about the trail and life.  Shredder and Doc cover some serious terrain, including interesting strategies to prevent frostbite, seeking a greater purpose, the intensity of a thru hike, how not to hike properly in grizzly country, living unhoused, and losing the joy (and finding it again!).

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