Bennett "Jolly" Fisher takes a quick break from the trail and from his hiking apparel company, Jolly Gear, to sit down with Doc in the studio to chat about some Type II fun. From his early start as an 18-year-old on his first overnight hike (um, the entire Appalachian Trail!) to his current ultralight status with a seven-pound pack on the PCT, Jolly shares his evolution as a thru hiker and a person. Listen in and hear about heartbreak on the AT, a new definition of Hiker Trash, the importance of putting the What Ifs out of your mind, and the creation of one of the hottest brands out on the trail, Jolly Gear!

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