It's easy being tough when you have never faced adversity. Would you lie down and die or fight with everything, no matter how hard it got?  

Clay Watts spent 30 years in the military and police, serving with the Australian Special forces; he is no stranger to adversity, pain and suffering.

So when the prognoses came, "it is not good mate", his test began.

As the saying goes, "nobody kills Clay except Clay." 

We spoke about Clay's fight with pancreatic cancer, which led him back into boxing and his new concept of using combat sports to transition people through life.