This is one we threw together after a movie one night. The room (and Lori) are a mess, but you may find the content helpful. Thanks to the movie Breakthrough and Chrissy Metz for her powerful acting as the inspiration to our video.

This is one we threw together after a movie one night. The room (and Lori) are a mess, but you may find the content helpful. Thanks to the movie Breakthrough and Chrissy Metz for her powerful acting as the inspiration to our video.

Jay and Lori discuss self-deception and lies. Why do betrayers do this? Why did Jay lie to Lori?

They also cover some things you can do to overcome these behaviors and get to a better place.

Lori holds Jay's feet to the fire on one of his past beliefs. Then we speak directly to the guys.

Women tell me the lying is worse than the sexual integrity issue. Jay goes into the first lies he ever told, and Lori shares what she thought when he'd lie about certain things. He even shared some brand new truth the day of this recording.

Continued from the previous episode where Lori shares what she wishes she'd known the first time the truth came out.

Lori shares what she wishes she'd known about betrayal the first time the truth came out.

Here Jay gives several things he wishes he'd known about the addiction... and the recovery process.

"Aren't you over this yet?" "It's just porn!" "It's your job to forgive!" Some things told to betrayed who've been betrayed don't help. They only become new sources of pain; new ways...

Even when addictive behaviors stop, if other unhealthy behaviors continue then she is still 'living with ...