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January 12, 2024 MARKETS DAILY: CoinDesk Market Index Week in Review
CoinDesk Indices presents six notable market movement highlights from last week.
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The CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) functions as a benchmark for the performance of the digital asset market, delivering institutional quality information to digital asset investors. Today’s takeaways are provided by Tracy Stephens, senior index manager of CoinDesk Indices with additional analysis from Miguel Kudry, CEO of L1 Advisors. For more on the CMI you can visit: coindeskmarkets.com.
This episode was hosted by Noelle Acheson. “Markets Daily” is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.
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6 min
January 12, 2024UNCHAINED: Why Some Brokerage Firms Are Blocking Access to Spot Bitcoin ETFs
Three ETF experts discuss all things Bitcoin ETF, from record-high trading volumes to how the SEC botched the approval and roll-out process to brokerages blocking customer purchases.

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Unless you've been living under a rock, you probably heard that spot Bitcoin ETFs were finally approved by the SEC this week. That set the stage for 11 such offerings from the likes of BlackRock, Fidelity, and ARK 21Shares to begin trading on Thursday. On this episode of Unchained, Nate Geraci, president of the ETF Store; Eric Balchunas, senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence; and James Seyffart, research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence discussed the initial record trading volumes, the mechanics of how the funds work, the botched roll-out process, the pointed commentary from SEC commissioners, the potential for future Ethereum spot ETFs and predictions for total inflows. Plus, they explain why brokerage firms like Vanguard, Merrill and others were blocking customer access to the ETFs.
Show highlights:
The initial impact and trading volumes on the launch day of the ETFs
How BlackRock’s ETF, IBIT, had a lot of volume in pre-market and what that means
Why Eric was surprised that BlackRock proceeded with a waiver for its ETF, but realized that it was “genius marketing”
Whether there’s a problem that ETFs don’t trade 24/7, unlike BTC itself
Why James says the spot ETFs are not going to have significant premiums or discounts to NAV
What the percentage premium is and how it will play out with spot Bitcoin ETFs
Whether the SEC will ever allow in-kind creation and redemption
Why Nate and Eric believe that the SEC’s denials of spot Bitcoin ETFs for a decade was “completely suboptimal” for retail investors
How the SEC commissioners pointedly disagreed with each other in their comments and dissents
The politics of the approval process
Whether Ethereum spot ETFs will be approved next
Why some big platforms and brokerages are not offering the spot Bitcoin ETFs
How RIAs will respond to the ETF and whether there’s going to be mainstream adoption by advisors
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Guests:
James Seyffart, Research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence

Previous appearances on Unchained:
Why Spot Bitcoin ETFs Are Likely to Finally Start Trading on Thursday
Why the SEC May Want Cash Creation of Spot Bitcoin ETFs
Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10

Eric Balchunas, Senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Why Spot Bitcoin ETFs Are Likely to Finally Start Trading on Thursday
Will a Spot Bitcoin ETF Finally Get Approved?

Nate Geraci, President of The ETF Store

Links
Previous coverage of Unchained on spot Bitcoin ETFs:
The 4 Factors That Will Determine Which Spot Bitcoin ETFs Win Market Share
How Much Money Will Flow Into Bitcoin ETFs? Here’s One Projection
The Chopping Block: Are We Back? The ‘Low IQ’ Response to the Potential Spot Bitcoin ETF
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Unchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC. Distributed by CoinDesk. Senior Producer is Michele Musso and Executive Producer is Jared Schwartz.
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1 hr 4 min
January 12, 2024 BitcoinETF: What Comes Next?
A bitcoin ETF has been approved in the U.S. Here’s what you need to know.
CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie, Anchor and Producer, collaborates with Helene Braun, Exchanges Reporter, in conversations on Twitter Spaces featuring Cinthia Murphy, Director of Research at ETF Think Tank, Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, and Ryan Rasmussen, Researcher at Bitwise. Additionally, CoinDesk's Managing Editor of Global Policy & Regulation, Nik De, contributes to the discussions.

Links:
What Is a Bitcoin ETF? - CoinDesk
Bitcoin ETFs and Wall Street: A Double Milestone
Bitcoin ETFs Win SEC Approval, Bringing Easier Access to Biggest Cryptocurrency
Bitcoin’s Wall Street Debut Ends in Tears for Futures Traders, Leads to $83M Liquidations
Bitcoin’s Wall Street Debut Ends in Tears for Futures Traders, Leads to $83M Liquidations
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The Twitter spaces bitcoin ETF special was edited by senior producer Michele Musso. Our executive producer is Jared Schwartz and the theme song is “Ocean Oasis” by PALA.
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49 min
January 12, 2024 MARKETS DAILY: Crypto Update | Cboe Digital President John Palmer on Day 1 of Bitcoin ETFs Trading; Launching Margined Futures for Bitcoin, Ether
The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and guest John Palmer, Cboe Digital president.
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Today on "Markets Daily," host Jennifer Sanasie speaks with Cboe Digital President John Palmer about where institutional interest might pick up following the spot bitcoin ETF approvals and on Cboe's launch of margined futures for bitcoin and ether.
This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl, alongside Senior Booking Producer Melissa Montañez. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.
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12 min
January 11, 2024 THE PROTOCOL: Gas Limit Boost, Bitcoin ETF Breakthrough, and Anti-Deepfake Alliances | What Lies Ahead in Crypto and Blockchain?
The proposed Ethereum gas limit increase holds the potential to enhance transaction throughput, coinciding with the significant milestone of the Bitcoin ETF debut, and in a parallel realm, Fox News and Polygon collaborate on an anti-deep fake tool.
This episode is sponsored by the Stellar Community Fund
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In this installment of "The Protocol," hosts Brad Keoun, the founding editor of The Protocol Newsletter, and tech journalists Sam Kessler and Margaux Nijkerk, explore the following stories:

TOPIC |
Ethereum's Vitalik Proposes Gas Limit Increase
Ethereum's gas limit refers to the maximum amount of gas that can be expended in an individual block. A limit increase could improve network capacity and potentially reduce costs for users.

Bitcoin ETFs Approved
In a milestone for crypto adoption, the SEC today gave the green light to the trading of Bitcoin exchange-traded funds (ETFs). CoinDesk rounded up reactions from across the crypto industry to the news.

PROTOCOL VILLAGE SEGMENT
Polygon and Fox Join in Blockchain Project to Combat ‘Deepfakes’
"Verify" is an open-source protocol built on Polygon's PoS blockchain, specifically used to establish the origin and history of registered media.

EPISODE LINKS |
Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin Proposes Gas Limit Increase
Bitcoin ETFs Approved: The Industry Reacts
Bitcoin Miners May Be Due a Breather After Spot ETF Approval, JPMorgan Says
Bitcoin ETFs: What to Expect on Day One
Gary Gensler Voted to Approve Bitcoin ETFs, Despite Public Criticism
Fox, Polygon Release Blockchain-Powered Tool 'Verify' to Weed Out Deepfakes
We Tried Fox's Blockchain-Based Tool for Deepfake Detection. Here's How It Went

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The Protocol has been produced and edited by senior producer Michele Musso and our executive producer is Jared Schwartz. Our theme song is “Take Me Back” by Strength To Last.

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33 min
January 11, 2024 MARKETS DAILY: Crypto Update | Why Kevin O'Leary Says Spot Bitcoin ETFs Are 'Practically Useless' For Institutional Investors
The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and guest Kevin O'Leary.
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Today on "Markets Daily," host Jennifer Sanasie speaks with Kevin O'Leary, O'Leary Ventures chairman, about why he thinks spot bitcoin ETFs are "practically useless" for institutional investors. But, he does see the approvals as a milestone for other reasons – tune in to hear O'Leary's full take on how the digital asset industry will evolve with the inclusion of U.S. spot bitcoin ETFs.
This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl, alongside Senior Booking Producer Melissa Montañez. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.
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22 min
January 10, 2024 MONEY REIMAGINED: What Will Be the Impact of a Bitcoin ETF Approval?
Hermine Wong explores the potential approval of a spot Bitcoin ETF, emphasizing that it could have short-term market fervor but may not necessarily lead to significant long-term adoption of Bitcoin.
In this week's installment of "Money Reimagined," host Michael Casey discusses the anticipation surrounding the approval of a spot Bitcoin ETF. Casey is joined by Hermine Wong, Founder of herminewong.xyz and Principal at Berkeley School of Law,
a regulatory expert offering insights on the topic. They explore the potential impact of ETF approval or disapproval on the relationship between the crypto industry and Washington. They also discuss the regulatory frameworks in Asia and Europe and the need for the US to catch up. The conversation delves into the importance of driving adoption and the challenges faced by disruptive tech in engaging with policymakers. They also touch on the opportunities for adoption through tokenization and NFTs.
Takeaways:
The entry of institutional investors into the crypto space indicates their belief in the long-term value of Bitcoin, but it may dilute the policy argument for the democratization of access.
The US regulatory framework for crypto lags behind other jurisdictions, but many startups still prefer to domicile themselves in the US due to the flow of value and customer base.
Crypto industry advocacy should focus on demonstrating the value of crypto in terms of access and opportunity, rather than taking an adversarial approach with regulators.
Tokenization and NFTs present opportunities for driving adoption by accessing new populations and empowering artists and creators.

Links |
If a Bitcoin ETF Is Approved, Here’s What May Happen
Bitcoin ETF Looks Very Likely Given These Bureaucratic SEC Steps
Bitcoin ETF Approval Expected Soon, Bears Lose $100M
BTC Blasts Past $47K as Bitcoin ETF Excitement Gets Feverish
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Money Reimagined has been produced and edited by senior producer Michele Musso and our executive producer is Jared Schwartz. Our theme song is “The News Tonight ” by Shimmer.
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27 min
January 10, 2024 MARKETS DAILY: Crypto Update | Bitcoin Fundamentals Built This Rally, Even Before ETF Excitement, Says Simeon Hyman of ProShares
The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and guest Simeon Hyman, global investment strategist at ProShares.
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"Markets Daily" kicks off a new format with a minute of market updates, followed by an interview with a rotating cast of market analysts across the crypto space. Today, host Jennifer Sanasie speaks with Simeon Hyman about the importance of keeping bitcoin value fundamentals in mind while watching price volatility on the potential spot bitcoin ETF approval, and where crypto assets fit in a modern day investment portfolio.
This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl, alongside Senior Booking Producer Melissa Montanez. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.
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12 min
January 10, 2024UNCHAINED: Why Spot Bitcoin ETFs Are Likely to Finally Start Trading on Thursday
Bloomberg Intelligence ETF analysts James Seyffart and Eric Balchunas break down the spot Bitcoin ETF launch timeline, plus analyze the already ruthless fee war.

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It’s set to be a historic week in crypto, with the SEC widely expected to finally approve a spot Bitcoin ETF, although it’s not a 100% certainty. Two Bloomberg analysts who have followed all the developments closely since the beginning, James Seyffart and Eric Balchunas, join Unchained to discuss the final filings, the likely to schedule, and whether all the applications are likely to be approved on the same day. Then they dive into the real action: the cutthroat wars that have already begun, why Grayscale might be keeping its fees on the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust so high, and who the likely winners in what has traditionally been a “winner take most” category will be.
Show highlights:
What the recent 19b-4 and S-1 filings say about how close the ETFs are to approval
Whether Hashdex's existing futures ETF impacts its treatment in the spot Bitcoin ETF process
The likely timeline for trading to start post-ETF approval
The possibility of simultaneous launches for all approved ETF issuers
The SEC's concerns about ensuring a fair launch, informed by the BITO experience
Eric’s surprise at JP Morgan's involvement as an Authorized Participant
Why the SEC is approving the ETF despite Gensler’s stance against crypto
What extreme cases Eric believes might cause the ETF not to be approved
How BlackRock's low fees set a challenging benchmark for competitors
The potential for an issuer to offer even lower fees than current players
How issuer margins are thin due to marketing fees, and the impact of waivers
James’ theory about why Grayscale might be keeping the fee on GBTC so high
Predictions about which issuer(s) will gain the bulk of assets under management
The rumor about BlackRock introducing substantial liquidity on the ETF's first day
Eric and James's expectations for ETF inflows and market dynamics

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Guest:
James Seyffart, Research analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Why the SEC May Want Cash Creation of Spot Bitcoin ETFs
Why It Looks Like BlackRock Could Win America’s First Spot Bitcoin ETF
Why a Spot Bitcoin ETF Will Probably Launch No Later Than January 10
Eric Balchunas, Senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Will a Spot Bitcoin ETF Finally Get Approved?

Links
Previous coverage of Unchained on spot Bitcoin ETFs:
The 4 Factors That Will Determine Which Spot Bitcoin ETFs Win Market Share
How Much Money Will Flow Into Bitcoin ETFs? Here’s One Projection
The Chopping Block: Are We Back? The ‘Low IQ’ Response to the Potential Spot Bitcoin ETF
Fees
Unchained: Fee Competition Heats Up Among BlackRock and Other Spot Bitcoin ETF Applicants
Caitlin Long’s tweet warning about no fees
Fidelity set their fee to .39%
Invesco/Galaxy chose to waive fees

Market participants:
Unchained: Goldman Sachs Could Take Vital Role in BlackRock, Grayscale Spot Bitcoin ETFs: Report
The Block: Nasdaq to meet with SEC today to discuss spot bitcoin ETFs: Source
Reuters: BlackRock, VanEck among asset managers that submitted updated filings for spot bitcoin ETF
CoinDesk: BlackRock, Valkyrie Name Authorized Participants Including JPMorgan for Bitcoin ETF
Others:
Better Markets’ letter: The SEC Must Follow the Law and Reject Spot Bitcoin ETPs Which Will Inflict Massive Investor Harm
FXSTREET: BlackRock might be on track to create history with $2 billion inflows in spot Bitcoin ETF in a week
Eleanor Terrett of Fox News’ tweet on Better Markets’ letter
Scott Johnson of Van Buren Capital’s estimate

Learn more:
Unchained:
Bitcoin ETFs Explained: What Are They & How Do They Work?
Why The Spot Bitcoin ETF Is a Big Deal
Deciding on Bitcoin: Should New Investors Jump In Now or Wait for an ETF?

Unchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC. Distributed by CoinDesk. Senior Producer is Michele Musso and Executive Producer is Jared Schwartz.
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1 hr 9 min
January 09, 2024 MARKETS DAILY: Crypto Update | What Crypto Assets Are Waiting in the Wings? Kaiko's Riyad Carey Takes a Look Beyond Bitcoin
The latest price moves and insights with Jennifer Sanasie and guest Riyad Carey, research analyst at Kaiko.
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"Markets Daily" kicks off a new format with a minute of market updates, followed by an interview with a rotating cast of market analysts across the crypto space. Today, host Jennifer Sanasie speaks with Riyad Carey about potential room for ether price movement, the meme coin market and airdrops to watch.
This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie. “Markets Daily” is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and produced and edited by Eleanor Pahl, alongside Senior Booking Producer Melissa Montanez. All original music by Doc Blust and Colin Mealey.
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11 min