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  • BREAKDOWN: Money Reimagined... Where Bitcoin Fits in the New Monetary Order

    This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

    Niall Ferguson has called this moment an “age of experimentation” when it comes to currencies.

    One of the unique features of this moment is the experiments are not limited to the traditional actors. It is not just nation-states trying to elevate their currencies in the face of the global dominance of the dollar, but non-sovereign monies born of decentralized networks that are plausible contenders in this game of currency thrones.

    Bitcoin was a byproduct of the last financial crisis. This connection was immortalized in the message embedded in the genesis block: “Jan 03/2009 Chancellor on the brink of a second bailout for banks.” 

    More than a decade on, in our new financial crisis, the size, scale and implications of that bank bailout seem positively quaint in comparison. 

    This episode looks at where bitcoin and other permissionless, non-state cryptocurrencies fit in the battle for the future of money. 

    It starts with a look at the bitcoin narrative in the wake of the market crash. With the most significant stock market correlation of its life, did bitcoin’s digital gold narrative evaporate alongside the S&P 500?

    From there, we move to an asset that has been massively in demand since the beginning of the crisis: USD stablecoins. We explore whether this is simply an affirmation of the supremacy of the dollar or represents a more disruptive force in the global monetary order.

    We conclude with a look at the relevance of bitcoin on the other side of the crisis. As the market moves from deflationary to inflationary, there are many who will be looking to hard assets and sound money as a cure. In that context, bitcoin could thrive. 

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    49 min
  • BREAKDOWN: Surveying the Carnage... Movies, Sports and Education in Crisis

    This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

    This is the second in a series of episodes on how the economic crisis is challenging and transforming different industries. NLW looks at:

    Movies

    • Direct releases are already making more than box office counterparts
    • AMC is on the verge of bankruptcy (or buyout by Amazon) 
    • Production is on hold and even when it resumes, likely to have strict rules on how it is carried out
    • Sports

      • Depending on your study, between 61% and 72% of people surveyed say they’re unlikely to go to live sporting events even after lockdowns are lifted
      • Colleges losing $18B+ in sports related revenue 
      • eSports alternatives surging - with conversations on Twitter up 71%
      • Advertising

        • Industry took 8 years to recover from Great Financial Crisis
        • Ad spending already down massively in March/April - down 38% in digital, 41% on TV, 45% on Radio, 51% on outdoor. 
        • Education

          • Of public schools, only 22% are offering any live instruction 
          • Before crisis, college debt had increased 107% between 2009-2019
          • Since the 80s, cost to attend college had grown 8x the growth in wages 
          • Estimates of 15% fewer enrollments and $23B in lost revenue

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            34 min
          • BREAKDOWN: Why Debt Can’t Buy More Growth, Feat. Jeff Booth

            This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

            Two powerful and diametrically opposed forces are shaping the economy. 

            On the one hand is inflationary economic policy, which keeps the price of assets like real estate and stocks rising ever higher, but at the expense of savings as the value of currency depreciates. 

            On the other is technology-wrought deflation. As technology increases its capacity exponentially, it causes everything it touches to be less expensive. 

            Jeff Booth is the author of “The Price of Tomorrow: Why Deflation Is the Key to an Abundant Future.” In this conversation, he and NLW discuss:

            • How today’s system came to be designed 
            • Why policy makers are terrified of deflation 
            • Why inflationary policy punishes savers and forces them into riskier markets 
            • How policy that prioritizes asset holders over savers has significantly exacerbated inequality 
            • Why each dollar of debt is producing less real economic growth than ever before 
            • Why proposed “solutions” like MMT and UBI paper over the root causes of the problem
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              1 hr 10 min
            • BREAKDOWN: How We Future Now - Live With Kathleen Breitman, Caitlin Long and More

              This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

              There is a shared sense that the world has shifted. Now begins the messy work of figuring out what it means for the future we’re headed into. 

              This live episode of The Breakdown podcast, recorded during Consensus: Distributed with NLW, features four conversations about how the future is shifting before our very eyes. 

              • How We Game and Entertain Now - featuring Kathleen Breitman, co-founder of Tezos and founder of blockchain game studio Coase
              • How We Identity Now - featuring Muneeb Ali, CEO of Blockstack 
              • How We Bank Now - featuring Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Avanti Financial Group 
              • How We Event Now - featuring CoinDesk’s Joon Ian Wong
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                1 hr 5 min
              • BREAKDOWN: The Great Monetary Inflation... Paul Tudor Jones' Complete Case for Bitcoin

                This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

                Last week, investing legend Paul Tudor Jones rocked the world of crypto and traditional markets with his full throated entrance into the bitcoin market via his latest letter to Tudor BVI investors. 

                While the headlines (and the quick price bump on the back of FOMO buying) were great, the story is even more interesting than the soundbite. 

                In this episode, NLW breaks down Paul Tudor Jones complete case for bitcoin, looking at: 

                • The context and previous attitudes towards bitcoin of both authors of the letter
                • The “Great Monetary Inflation” thesis driving a focus on stores of value
                • How money supply growth compared to real economic output growth hasn’t been this out of sync since inflationary periods in the 1970s and 1980s
                • The “Inflation Race” - a list of 8 potential inflation hedges
                • The four categories by which a store of value can be judged: purchasing power, trustworthiness, liquidity, portability
                • A ranked look at bitcoin, gold, fiat, and financial assets in the context of those four categories.
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                  29 min
                • LTB!: Bitcoin Miners, US Energy Producers and Moores Law

                  Although some believe bitcoin mining is a wasteful activity, on today's show we dig into the relative world of constant fuel production, lumpy demand and bitcoin based load balancing.

                  After years of bitcoin mining domination by china-based miners, some US power producers, both professional and incidental, are beginning to get into the game as a way to be more green. It's a narrative reversal if ever we've seen one and if proven successful by the early players could change the bitcoin mining landscape as we know it.

                  But even without a "Green Bitcoin" narrative in the US, one of China's two major mining advantages has evaporated as Moores Law stretches out the useful lifespan of modern bitcoin miners hardware.

                  Correction: Before installing miners, Greenidge Generation previously shut down during off-peak season, during the episode Adam incorrectly stated that it previously shut down during off-peak hours.

                  Today's episode features Andreas M. Antonopoulos, Stephanie Murphy, Jonathan Mohan and Adam B. Levine

                  This episode features music by Jared Rubens and Gurty Beats. Today's show is edited by Jonas, and sponsored by eToro.com

                  Photo by Thomas Kelley on Unsplash

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                  32 min
                • LEIGH: Scams, Schemes and Crypto Privacy, Feat. Preston Byrne

                  CoinDesk reporter Leigh Cuen is joined by attorney Preston Byrne, a partner at the Washington, D.C. office of Anderson Kill, to talk about fraud and constitutional rights. 

                  This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

                  “There is really very little difference, at least in the point of origin...whether something is a scam,” Byrne said, regarding inaccurate blogs and representations of software projects. “Take Ethereum, for example. Ethereum had all manner of promises that were made...the statements coming from the Ethereum Foundation were somewhat more measured.” 

                  Regardless of whether any particular project is an attempt at fraud, it’s likely that online money schemes of every variety will become more common during this coronavirus crisis. According to Thomas Papageorge, head of the Consumer Protection Unit at the San Diego District Attorney’s office, there’s a “clear pattern” of more white-collar crimes since the recession began. 

                  “The rate of incidents, the amount of fraud, does increase dramatically during an emergency situation like this,” Papageorge said. “I’ve heard about new types of scams that involve cryptocurrency … investment scams and bogus advice about protecting your savings or bitcoin.”

                  Bitcoin evangelist Andreas Antonopoulos tweeted that fraudsters were impersonating him to offer unemployed people fake jobs, identity thieves looking for personal information. Likewise, CoinDesk impersonators are also targeting people across the sector. 

                  According to Carnegie Mellon University economics professor Sevin Yeltekin, the financial stressors people are experiencing today make them “more vulnerable to those scams.” However, there is a silver lining, she said, because businesses that survive the current recession will do so because they reimagined how they operate, including “risk management.”

                  Even tech-savvy people like Lisa Gus, startup investment lead at the Government Blockchain Association and co-founder of the startup WishKnish, can be vulnerable to fraudsters in such stressful times. Gus said she spent several weeks being led on by a scammer impersonating a Binance employee, before her startup’s security solution MetaCert identified a phishing domain behind the fraudster’s email account, [email protected]. 

                  “About LinkedIn, I’m not the only one being inundated with fake [investment] offers...the amount of propositions I’ve been getting (is up),” Gus said. “Especially for larger companies, it’s impossible to track profiles that are associated with them.”

                  With regards to this instance, a LinkedIn spokesperson recommended members “take precautions” in these trying times and “report any messages or postings they believe are scams to us so we can investigate."

                  Larger companies often charge early stage blockchain projects for working together, whether it’s cited as marketing costs or listing fees. In Gus’s case, the fraudster had due diligence paperwork and non-disclosure contracts, which made the scammer’s request for a bitcoin deposit less suspicious. 

                  As for retail users, ShapeShift CEO Erik Voorhees has “definitely seen more phishing attempts” since early March. Likewise, a Binance spokesperson said so far in 2020 the company saw an average of 180 scam reports per month, which dwarf the unreported instances. So the exchange offers a public verification tool to check whether websites, phone numbers, emails, Telegram and WeChat handles are actually affiliated with Binance. 

                  That’s why the blockchain explorer Etherscan launched the “EthProtect” program in April, to tag wallet addresses reportedly used for fraud. Etherscan CEO Matthew Tan said the company uses internal “circuit breakers” to minimize false positives and aims to provide users with “actionable data” to make “informed choices” about who they transact with. 

                  As for the attorney Byrne, he said in some cases cryptocurrency projects may run afoul of consumer protection issues, even if they are not considered unregistered securities or frauds. 

                  “There’s a range of representations of things, what you can say about things, that aren’t necessarily true but aren’t fraudulent,” he said. 

                  The fact is, cryptocurrency now exists. People will use it unethically, the same way they do with all other forms of money. But there are lawful and constructive ways to use the technology as well. 

                  “You can operate a bitcoin business in a regulatory compliant fashion,” Byrne said. “However, it requires a lot of work and advice and design to do that correctly.”  

                  Want more? Read my article about how the University of New Hampshire Law School is capitalizing on demand for blockchain expertise in the legal industry.

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                  45 min
                • BREAKDOWN: Money Reimagined... The Global Contenders Trying to Displace the Dollar

                  “Some of the greatest theorists about money…thought it better to be multiple competing currencies rather than a single global standards, and there were plenty of periods in history where that was the case. Standardization of money came relatively late to the world. One of the lessons of history is that with globalization comes a tendency for a particular currency to become the number one dominant currency for transactions, for trade, for international reserves. A great question to ask is: globalization enters this phase of crisis: will there be some other transition from the dollar to another currency? Or could we see a reversion to a multipolar, multi currency world?” - Niall Ferguson 

                  This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

                  On the first episode of Money Reimagined, we looked at the strange paradox of the US dollar. On the one hand, massive stimulus fueled by money printer go brrr should suggest for inflation. At the same time, however, there is no denying that the dollar is stronger than ever, rising in value compared to other currencies in spite of that inflation potential. 

                  There is a sense among many, however, that this strength is relative, temporary, and above all, unsustainable. In a world where a global dollar based monetary system does not serve the interest of the world, what replaces it? 

                  This episode is about the sovereign contenders - in other words, the currencies that would work through existing power structures and paradigms, but replace the dollar with something else. 

                  We look first at the Euro. Created in the wake of the Cold War to bind a newly reborn Europe in shared identity and economic destiny, it entered the COVID-19 crisis in a beleaguered state. Brexit had taken the most valuable economy out of the union and flagging economies within it created significant fragility. What’s more, Europe simply doesn’t have the monetary tools available to a country like the United States. Peter Zeihan, the geopolitical strategist and author of Disunited Nations, explained it like this: 

                  “There’s nothing that the Europeans can do in terms of stimulus spending without raising debt. Even if they decided to do something like QE - which last time took years - they would now have to have the debate over who gets how much. The Europeans are having a hard time raising the capital necessary for dealing with this crisis, whereas the US can just flip a switch.” 

                  CoinDesk’s Chief Content Officer Michael Casey pointed out that the EU is also dealing with questions of political validity, with COVID-19 exacerbating a fundamental issue. 

                  “The capacity of the EU to act in unison and the common interest the EU is supposed to represent kind of fell apart. All of a sudden, borders got shutdown and it was each nation to him or herself. So the EU’s validity to manage this has been challenged. COVID is a force for decentralizing power. From a currency perspective, the value of these currencies are political questions. Therefore the EU’s political validity is being questions right now. I’m not sure that’s going to be a very positive environment for the Euro.” 

                  **

                  The next contender profiled is the Libra project. While much of the initial conversation about the Libra focused on the past transgressions and potential political illegitimacy of its founding organization of Facebook, for economists and system thinkers, the most powerful idea contained in the project was the idea of a global currency standard backed by a basket of the world’s fiat rather than pegged to any single currency. In many ways, this harkened back to John Maynard Keynes’ Bretton Woods proposal for a bancor - separate from the individual currencies of nations around the world. Indeed, in many ways, the most interesting impact of Libra initially was getting global central bankers like Mark Carney to propose their own ‘synthetic hegemonic currencies.’

                  Finally, we look at China’s digital currency or DCEP. Is it an unbelievable surveillance honeypot? An attempt to front run the West on a key technological innovation? A method of extending economic spheres of influence? Or is it all of the above?

                  Music by DJ J-Scrilla "Faith In My Money (Money Printer Go Brrr)" from the new “Sound Money” album.

                  Produced by NLW and Adam B. Levine. Edited, Scored and Announced by Adam B. Levine with production assistance from the rest of the team at CoinDesk.

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                  27 min
                • BREAKDOWN: 9 Reasons Why Bitcoin Has Never Been Stronger Going Into a Halving

                  This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

                  The bitcoin halving is just a few days away and the growing excitement is palpable. On this episode of The Breakdown, NLW argues that the excitement is also legitimate, and looks at nine reasons why bitcoin has never been stronger going into one of its every-four-year issuance reductions:

                  • Price
                  • Hash rate
                  • Mining competition
                  • Accessibility and Services 
                  • Infrastructure
                  • Institutional awareness and participation
                  • Narrative relevance
                  • Perceived and real resilience 
                  • Lindy effects 

                  • Oh, and let’s not forget. Paul Tudor Jones just disclosed that he is invested in bitcoin and sees it as a hedge against ‘great monetary inflation’ 

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                    23 min
                  • BREAKDOWN: Surveying the Carnage: How Real Estate, Travel and Music Are Faring During the Crisis

                    This episode is sponsored by ErisX, The Stellar Development Foundation and Grayscale Digital Large Cap Investment Fund.

                    The second order effects of the COVID-19 crisis are here, and they’re painful. In this episode, NLW looks at how COVID is impacting three industries:

                    Travel and tourism

                    • 100m lost jobs expected globally 
                    • $2.7 in lost GDP 
                    • Airbnb lays of 25% of employees 
                    • Music & Concerts

                      • From a record $12.2B concert year to a loss of $9B
                      • Expectations of concert prohibition lasting up to two years
                      • Industry organizing to be included in relief 
                      • Real Estate

                        • Commercial real estate expecting 2.5% default rate for 5+ years 
                        • Negotiations around sales-based payment instead of traditional rent 
                        • Residential sees cratering demand but home prices remain up year over year

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                          27 min

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