For National Carers Week I'm joined by Penny Wincer author of Tender: The Imperfect Art of Caring. Penny first became a carer for her mother in her teens and is now a carer for her son Arthur, who is Autistic. Penny shares her experience coming to terms with her son's disability and accepting that their different path is still a happy one, how we can act as allies to families affected by disability and how to support the estimated 9 million unpaid carers in the UK. Shownotes: madeleineshaw.com/episode63