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For our inaugural bonus episode of Conspirituality Podcast, we feature a single interview: a deep dive into the demonology of QAnon and Xtian evangelicalism with Dublin-based Religious Studies scholar Jonathan O’Donnell (pronouns: they/them).
O’Donnell took Matthew through a tour of modern demons: how they show up and how believers relate to them. They also explore the amazing world of “spiritual warfare handbooks,” which have a history in US evangelicalism, are bestsellers in Q-land, and in some ways resemble new-age self-help manuals. They discuss prophecy, speaking in tongues, and the impacts of demonology on marginalized identities.
Professor O’Donnell specializes in American Religious and Cultural Studies, with a focus on the religious right and systems of dehumanization. They study Islamophobia, antisemitism, transphobia, and religious nationalism. Their current research analyses the relation between evangelical demonology, authoritarianism, and “post-truth politics” in Trump’s America.
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Some wellness influencers offer compelling critiques of Big Pharma, factory farming, and psychiatric malpractice. What happens when their arguments become honeypots for snake oil? In this episode, Derek provides an overview of modern pharma practice and its discontents. Julian delves into the muddy culture of yoga and antidepressants—the bad advice, the stigma, the magical thinking. He also reviews the latest Q-adjacent content of Canadian self-help celebrity Danielle LaPorte, and checks in on Kate Northrup’s interview with Zach Bush.
Derek and Julian interview Matthew about his recent feature investigation on conspirituality power couple, Dr. Kelly Brogan and Sayer Ji. There’s lots of material that didn’t make the final copy, like how Brogan’s conspirituality could endanger the mental health of her online clients, and how her usage of Kundalini Yoga as a supplemental therapy is riddled with false historical and medical claims. Also: why didn’t Sayer Ji denounce QAnon when given the chance?
Finally, Derek digs into the podcast origin story with an interview of Jules Evans, who helped “conspirituality” become an almost-household term.
Show Notes
Inside Kelly Brogan’s Covid-Denying, Vax-Resistant Conspiracy Machine
Popular Health Guru Sayer Ji Curates the Scientific Literature with His Bachelor’s Degree in Philosophy
Matthew’s review of Brogan’s “review” of Yogi Bhajan survivor Pamela Dyson’s memoir
From Maharaj to Mahan Tantric: The Construction of Yogi Bhajan’s Kundalini Yoga
Cognitive Errors and Diagnostic Mistakes: A Case-Based Guide to Critical Thinking in Medicine
An Olive Branch Report on Yogi Bhajan, the abuser
White Bird in a Golden Cage: My Life with Yogi Bhajan
Trump Claims He Invented the Term “Fake News”—Here’ s an Interview With the Guy Who Actually Helped Popularize It
Lies, Damn Lies and Viral Content
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At this point, we can say for sure that American spiritual and wellness communities are not only vulnerable to conspiracy brainworms but they’re actively hosting and spreading them. Seane Corn joins us to discuss what to do when QAnon rhetoric and hashtags co-opts lurches through yoga communities.
But is this really unexpected from a historical point of view? Our second guest, cult researcher and historian Jared Yates Sexton joins us to talk about his new book, American Rule. He discusses the longstanding conspiracies that have influenced America since its very founding as well as the chronic problem of American exceptionalism.
We all add in our own reflections on 9/11: how close to home it came, how one of us was in a cult when it happened, and how we learn and manage fear.
Show Notes
Thread on Pastel QAnon
The Birth of QAmom
Wellness Influencers Are Spreading QAnon Conspiracies About the Coronavirus
Seane Corn’s anti-Q post swarmed by QAnons
Inside Kelly Brogan’s Covid-Denying, Vax-Resistant Conspiracy Machine
The Brightest Stars Shine In The Deepest Dark
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Yoga-crazed Hindu nationalists murder Muslims for eating beef, believing that the cow embodies the religious gift of India’s soil. American white supremacists chug gallons of local milk to prove their lactose tolerance and their claim that they alone should occupy the Global North.
Extreme examples aside: it’s clear that key elements of the alt-right and the New Age agree that the Earth is sacred. Bountiful and healing, the Earth preserves everything lost to industrialization, Big Pharma, and globalization. Home is where the soil is. But whose home? Who’s welcome here? Who can afford it? Who’s allowed to own it, and who has to slave-labor on it? For all the supposed concern for ecology, why aren’t we seeing conspiritualists and QAnon devotees marching against carbon emissions, celebrating the carbon drops of lockdown, supporting the migrant workers who pick their arugula, or starting community gardens in their food-desert cities?
This week Matthew reviews the soft-fascist “blood and soil” themes of conspirituality culture. Derek gives some background and context on the romanticization problem with agriculture. And Julian looks at the quasi-scientific premises and promises that podcast fave Dr. Zach Bush offers in response. We also bring you an interview with farming activist John Roulac, who’s incensed at how conspirituality is ripping up progressive foodie movements. In a recent article, he called out his old friends and associates (like Mikki Willis and Christiane Northrup) for what he calls their “body-snatching” beliefs. Matthew closes with a view from Manitoulin Island.
Show Notes
Is the Wellness Movement Being Tainted by QAnon and the New Age Right?
John Roulac tangles with Mikki Willis
John’s projects: Kiss the Ground | Nutiva | Rebotanicals
Matthew’s feature on Pattabhi Jois, yoga guru and serial sexual abuser
When The U.S. Government Tried To Replace Migrant Farmworkers With High Schoolers
A reflection on the lasting legacy of 1970s USDA Secretary Earl Butz
Why factory farms are a “perfect storm” for disease pandemics
Brian Rose on Zach Bush
Our COVID-19
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For decades, Neo-Tantra has focused on sex workshops and orgasmic bliss, overlooking the fact that the Kama Sutra is effectively a patriarchal instruction manual as well as Tantra’s grassroots origins in the lower castes in Indian society, which were responding to lofty metaphysical ideas with practical rituals everyone could partake in. From that perspective, a modern industry marketed with Shiva-Shakti figurines is yet another example of capitalist yoga in a privileged society.
Derek opens this week discussing a redpilled-lite video by Danielle LaPorte, while Julian discusses an intensely personal story related to Tantra; he also explores the role of the Aghoris. We break from Tantra talk during Matthew’s interview with Alex Auder, a veteran yoga instructor who uses comedy as a relief mechanism from the QAnon craziness in the yoga world. Matthew ends this week’s episode with a reflection on his history with Tibetan Buddhist Tantra, and how he sees echoes of its archaic elements showing up, in undigested form, in the QAnon imaginarium.
Show Notes
Danielle LaPorte’s video
How tantric sex trains people to have more intense orgasms, and why it’s so controversial
The Mysterious Death of a Tantric Sex Guru
Sex Messiah: A Tantric Odyssey
Not for the Faint of Heart: The Aghori and Their Unorthodox Path to Enlightenment
Reza Aslan (almost) loses his head
Yoga: An Evolving Story Of Cross-Cultural Innovation
Julian Feeld at the Hollywood Blvd QAnon rally
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This week we announce and discuss a refinement in our podcast’s direction. Real talk: conspirituality has clearly become both a front and a gateway for the fever-dream of QAnon. As mainstream news outlets wake up to the sordid reality that independent journalists have been tracking for two years, we find neither stream truly conceptualizing answers or methods for recovery and healing. Going forward, we’re going to concentrate not only on critique, but also offering solutions.
Our guest this week is Lorna Liana, publisher of Entheonation. She tells Matthew about the insurgence of conspirituality in the plant medicine and ceremony world. Some neo-shamans, she says, are redpilling plant worshippers during vulnerable states. Julian and Derek chime in with their own experiences of psychedelics.
Show Notes
Plants of the Gods: Their Sacred, Healing, and Hallucinogenic Powers
How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us about Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence
What Are the Coronavirus Risks with Ayahuasca Ceremonies?
Can Ayahuasca Protect You From Coronavirus?
Is Tobacco Antiviral (& Can It Treat COVID-19)?
Plant Ceremonies and Your Safety in the Midst of a Global Crisis
COVID-19 Denialism is Rooted in the Settler Colonial Mindset
A Neuroscientist Explains What Conspiracy Theories Do To Your Brain
The Danger of Manipulative Love-Bombing in a Relationship
The Certainty Bias: A Potentially Dangerous Mental Flaw
Dopamine, cognitive biases and assessment of certainty: A neurocognitive model of delusions
The Dopaminergic Midbrain Encodes the Expected Certainty about Desired Outcomes
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Dr. Theodora Wildcroft joins us again to take us through the basics of contemporary Religious Studies. She discusses how the discipline approaches issues of ritual, value, meaning, charisma, and role-playing, while also leading us through the process by which objects, places, and people become sacred. Spoiler: it’s more about what we do than what we believe.
Wildcroft also dissects the chronic problem of conspiritualists weaponizing myths of rebellion and recovery.
Matthew gives a brief rundown on the trainwreck of Mikki Willis’s “Plandemic 2,” and also talks about the Q-map as an artistic (if delusional) landscape of comfort and connection. Derek contemplates the chemicals we don’t question while putting onto or inside of our bodies, while Julian homes in on one particular chemical: the pyramid scheme propped up by Big Essential Oil.
Show Notes
The QAnon map
How to spot a conspiracy theory – Expert guide to conspiracy theories part one
Mandala Offering – Ring Set Version
Lotsawa House: Mandala Offering
Deep State Mapping Project
Was Lewis Carroll a Pedophile? His Photographs Suggest So
Travis View on Twitter
2019 Plastic Surgery Statistics Report
Risk Associated with Bee Venom Therapy: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
Class Action: Young Living ‘Nothing More Than an Unlawful Pyramid Scheme’
Multi-Level Vaccine Refusal
Very simplistic visual example of how conspiracy theories can become transnational
Deconstructing the placebo effect and finding the meaning response
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Last week, we started to explore how the real issue of child trafficking is being weaponized by bad-faith actors. This week we’re joined by two experts that explain the overt and subtle impacts involved.
Regan Williams, CEO and founder of Seen & Heard, a nonprofit that provides youth in foster care with professional and personal development via the performing arts, offers a ground zero perspective of trafficked children and teens (and the people that actually care for them) being made even more invisible by conspiratorial clicktivism.
Religious Studies scholar and trauma-sensitive yoga consultant, Dr. Theo Wildcroft, joins us from England to discuss the consequences of trauma histories being hijacked for political and emotional manipulation. She offers insight into the mythic elements of conspirituality-to-Q that cannot be ignored if we want to understand how trauma is both stored and resisted.
On This Week in Conspirituality, Matthew considers the absurdity of David Wolfe accusing the medical community of not doing anything about cancer. Julian investigates anti-Semitic blood libel themes in QAnon and Derek discusses the chronic dangers of seeking utopia.
Show Notes
To report abuse/neglect, call the child abuse hotline: 800.540.4000 (LA county) / 800.422.4453 (National)
Epstein is a real pedophile. Why are QAnon and Pizzagate so focused on fake ones?
The Dark Virality of a Hollywood Blood-Harvesting Conspiracy
Just how anti-Semitic is QAnon?
QAnon isn’t newly anti-Semitic—it’s always been that way
Q supporters are incorrectly doxxing journalists who report on QAnon as Jewish
Nearly 600,000 people have voted for candidates who support QAnon
Here are the QAnon supporters running for Congress in 2020
QAnon Supporter Who Made Bigoted Videos Wins Ga. Primary, Likely Heading To Congress
Prominent Republicans back a conspiracy theory-promoting congressional candidate in Georgia
Argentino on
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Two of this podcast’s hosts have been involved in destructive cult dynamics. Matthew’s three years with Michael Roach and three years at Endeavor Academy are at the root of his cult research and journalism. Julian’s six years in the inner circle around what he describes as Ana Forrest’s incendiary and manipulative approach to yoga left him with repressed memories. Those experiences also left his family deeply scarred by some of the same Satanic Panic themes prevalent in the QAnon movement. His ongoing work advocating for critical thinking and community health is part of his recovery.
Derek describes himself as being “cult-adjacent”—not uncommon for a lifelong wellness industry professional. In this episode, he’ll interview Julian and Matthew about their cult experiences, the recovery process, and cultic dynamics in modern yoga, Buddhist, and New Age communities informing the growing field of conspirituality.
They’ll also discuss cultic organizations being ideally positioned to sell “Disaster Spirituality” (props to Naomi Klein) in times of crisis. Cult leaders understand the power of charisma, the attractiveness of transcendental ideology, and what it takes to make vulnerable people feel like every question is answerable with jargon, intrusive eye contact, and deeply deceptive shit. Matthew will ground the discussion with a synopsis of cult research, basic concepts, and useful definitions.
Show Notes
The David Wolfe video about pedophilia and Trump
United States of Conspiracy | PBS documentary
QAnon Casualties: stories on Reddit
Steven Hassan’s “Influence Continuum,” which is helpful for assessing the health of influence
Great podcast about James Arthur Ray and the question of undue influence
Tony Robbins’ PR defends him when people are injured at his firewalking events
Excellent podcast series on Heaven’s Gate
The conviction of Keith Raniere
Peter Georgiades on the legal barriers to cult litigation
Daniel Shaw on “Traumatic Narcissism“
QAnon Anonymous
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A recent report by the UK’s Center for Countering Digital Hate found that anti-vaxx organizations reach 58 million people on social media. The total amount of money spent by anti-vax groups and advertisers targeting their followers on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube is roughly $1 billion. The majority of the money funding the most prominent anti-vax groups is by just two men: osteopath Joseph Mercola and fund manager Bernard Selz. All of this makes you wonder: Why is so money being used to target anti-vaxxers?
Derek interviews Imran Ahmed, founder of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, about how anti-vax leaders and groups are using social media to target and recruit followers. The stakes are higher than ever, as the vaccine argument has transcended autism and is threatening to endanger public health during the pandemic.
Julian considers the vaccine fears of parents as well as the shadow of the Tuskegee Syphillis Study, and how anti-vax alliances are targeting black communities, which could be a disastrous Trojan Horse for COVID-19, while Matthew serves up his This Week in Conspirituality segment in the epilogue, looking at how the leader of the high-demand group he was indoctrinated into over 20 years ago, led by Michael Roach, is rebooting old content as a COVID-era grift.
Show Notes
History of Vaccines
A History of Measles in the United States
Measles Cases and Outbreaks
MMR Vaccination | What You Should Know
Mercury, Vaccines, and Autism: One Controversy, Three Histories
Aluminum in vaccines
Human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines
CDC Global Health – Polio – Our Progress
Christiane Northrup: Triangulation, regret, Gardisil, civil disobedience
How the Public Learned About the Infamous Tuskegee Syphilis Study
Anti-vaccination leaders fuel black mistrust of medical establishment as covid-19 kills people of color
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