Conversations as you Go

Guest: Vijay (Coauthor with Dave Coles of Bhojpuri Breakthrough and their new book Breakthrough Leadership. This is a highly commended leadership development book for us as movement leaders)

In this first episode, Vijay shares his powerful journey from a traditional church mindset to becoming a catalyst for disciple-making movements across northern India. He unpacks key paradigm shifts and stories that have shaped his leadership and passion for transformation.

🔄 Paradigm Shifts in Leadership

From control to empowerment—loving people without agenda among the 90 million in his region.

Discipleship through godly conversation, not just conversion.

Breaking the “us and them” mindset to see everyone as fellow human beings.

Raising up ordinary people as leaders, not experts.

🙏 A Movement Rooted in Prayer

Vijay highlights the vital role of mobilizing a culture of prayer, even in the face of ongoing persecution.

🔥 Stories from the Harvest

Christian leaders continue to reach others even from prison.

No financial incentives—just wholehearted, voluntary decisions to follow Jesus.

Community in Christ stands in contrast to the isolation in modern Hindu society.

📘 About the Book: Breakthrough Leadership

Everyone is called to disciple-making, not merely church attendance.

Discipleship breaks cycles of bondage and multiplies transformation.

💬 Final Encouragement

“Who am I without my worldly status?”Jesus met people without title or status. As his followers, we’re called to love without condemnation.

John 3:17 – "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."

Discipleship is a lifelong journey of becoming like Christ.

The church is the fruit, not the focus—disciple-making is the core.

God empowers us with forgiveness—a key to personal freedom and transformation.

⚡ Takeaway Challenge

Don’t settle for being just a church member. Be an agent of transformation. Through you, God can impact families, communities—even nations.

📚 Resources Mentioned

Bhojpuri BreakthroughThe Movement that Keeps Multiplying📖 Available on Amazon AU.

Amazon (international)

Also available as an audiobook

Breakthrough LeadershipInsights from an Asian Movement Leader📖 Available on Amazon AU.

Amazon (international)

(Also available to read today as an e-book via Amazon)

God is doing something historic today. As Dave shares from New Zealand, we are seeing a surge of (disciple making) movements—rapid, indigenous, multiplying streams of disciples and churches—reshaping Christianity as we know it.

What began decades ago with just a few movements is now exploding: over 115 million believers and 8.5 million new churches, with growth doubling every 3.5 years—impacting more than 1.4% of the world’s population.

These are not renewal movements within existing churches, but harvest movements among the unreached—especially in hard, persecuted places like North India, where thousands of churches now grow where there was once spiritual drought.

Movements start when God calls catalytic teams, people hungry for more, willing to shift paradigms and obey Jesus fully. They embrace discovery-based discipleship, relational gatherings, and the multiplication of leaders across generations. This could be a tipping point in global missions—a generation that could complete the Great Commission.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." — Matthew 24:14

Which generation will see this? Who will run the final lap?There is only one task we carry to the finish line: to make disciples of all nations. Let’s live and lead like it depends on us!

📽️ You can watch this podcast here (NB: Dave shares from 33 minutes in):

https://vimeo.com/1095829360?share=copy#t=0

In this episode from the DMM Connect gathering in Northland, NZ, Keith and Joy share their journey from serving as missionaries in Thailand to how God called them to continue living on mission back home in New Zealand. They unpack how they have been able to live missionally in their own context using simple, reproducible tools.

Learning to have Spiritual Conversations (Four Quadrants)

A key turning point was learning how to have spiritual conversations using the Four Quadrants (casual → meaningful → spiritual → discovery). This changed how they connected with people in their local community.

Joy reflects on John 4—Jesus' conversation with the woman at the well—and how He took this Samaritan woman on a spiritual journey as a person of peace to her community. Likewise, Keith and Joy have seen everyday people (like 'Ruth', a young woman from a local market) discover Jesus and share Him with others.

Jesus' strategy when sending out his disciples

Keith emphasises how engaging in the harvest as key to transformation—shifting from theory to practice, from "come" to "go." We listen in as the room explores these 4 scriptures where Jesus sends His disciples out:

Mark 6:7–13

Luke 9:1–6

Matthew 9:36–10:16

Luke 10:1–11

These passages show that Jesus had compassion on the lost and taught His followers to beseech (or beg) God for workers—not for the harvest itself (which is already plentiful), but for more harvesters. It’s a key strategy of prayer that Jesus gave twice in the gospels. We know the Lords Prayer but this is another prayer Jesus commanded his disciples to pray.

Keith reflects on Matthew 9:35-38...

“We’ve all prayed for the harvest. But in a way, this is the wrong way to pray. Jesus is telling us the harvest is already great. What we’re imploring Him for is the workers. It’s like Jesus is healing the sick and then steps back and looks at the large crowd and realises that a different approach is needed… Even Jesus realised that it couldn’t be a one-man show. He needed a team to do what He did.”

In the group discussion, we hear reflections on how traditional models often extract people from their communities to come to church. But Jesus modeled something different: staying with those who welcome you. Like the woman at the well, insiders can reach their whole communities more effectively than outsiders can.

A final challenge

"In a culture of ‘come,’ we’ve made the lost person into the missionary (they have to leave their comfort zone to come to church). But ‘come’ is the enemy of ‘go,’ and addition is the enemy of multiplication.” – Raj (quoting those like Jim Britts)

🎥 You can view this podcast as a video too:

https://vimeo.com/1099326407

Welcome to episode 166 of the podcast. In this episode, we take you into Northland, New Zealand, where leaders like Dave, Graham, Sam, and others are wrestling with one central question: How can Discovery Bible Study (DBS) become more than a method—and instead spark a movement of disciple-making in our own context?

You’ll hear stories of breakthrough, honest questions about challenges, and the shift from teaching to facilitating—from knowledge to revelation. Whether it’s with a Muslim family, a church congregation, or people in the harvest, DBS is opening hearts to the Word and multiplying impact.

Let’s move beyond theory and explore how DBS can be lived out—simply, reproducibly, and powerfully—wherever you are.

🎤 Dave’s Discovery of DBS

Dave first encountered DBS through David Watson’s work in Africa.

He began applying it with a Muslim family, using simple inductive Bible study questions.

Key quote: “Power of God plus the Word of God put together makes disciples that multiply.”

His journey reflects a shift in mindset:

From using tools to tell people what Scripture says ➝ to trusting God’s Word and Spirit to speak directly.

From knowledge-based to revelation-based engagement.

From teaching to facilitating.

From expert-led ➝ to anyone can lead, even non-believers.

Coaches must help contextualize the Scripture set (not just use Creation to Christ for every setting).

Keep it simple: as easy as ABC – Ask, Bible, Commit (6–7 core questions).

DBS is not just for Christians; non-Christians can also hear and obey God's Word.

Retelling is key so people can pass on what they’ve heard.

“This God is someone who wants to have relationship.”– Muslim man expressing his first discovery of God through DBS on Genesis 1.

🙌 Sam Turner’s Journey

Sam shares his wrestle with DBS, particularly applying it within a church setting, then seeing it multiply outside.

He describes key paradigm shifts:

Getting out of the way as a teacher.

Discovery leads to internal conviction, not just external teaching.

In his church, they started passing the mic around after sermons, asking people to share their discoveries and applications.

DBS is not about growing my church—it's about growing the Kingdom.

Multiplication over addition.

A challenging but catalytic question:“Who within my sphere of influence could catalyse groups?”

💬 Live Group Reflections

What happens when obedience is hard for Christians? One great DBS question:“How should I change my thinking or actions from this story?”

Powerful moment during a DBS on Luke 24:13–49 (Road to Emmaus):

A long-time Bible teacher said, “You’ve ruined me as 40 years of Bible teaching!” after experiencing DBS for the first time.

Others shared how the group dynamic gave multiple “facets” of a passage—“like a diamond.”

The Resurrected Jesus (living testimony) and the Scriptures work powerfully hand-in-hand in mission.

💡 Reflective Challenge

As you reflect on what you’ve heard—from internal wrestles to surprising fruit—ask yourself:

How might you tweak or implement DBS with those in your own context?What shift—big or small—could you make this week to move from teaching to discovery, from addition to multiplication?

Check out the video of this podcast episode here:

https://vimeo.com/showcase/11766423/video/1099331027

Learning from Disciple-Making Movements in Asia

In this episode:

Scott Crawley shares insights from his experience speaking at the Praxeis Hub in Melbourne. He reflects on what he’s learning through his “classroom”—his on-the-ground experiences with teams across various cities in Asia—and how these learnings inform disciple-making and movement building in complex urban environments.

Scott’s Vision & Team

Scott describes his team’s pursuit of a bold vision: to see disciple-making movements emerge in 15 cities across Asia. His “classroom” is formed through real-time learning alongside others serving in diverse and often challenging urban contexts.

Three Foundational Principles for Disciple-Making & Movement

God has an End Goal: God is profoundly relational — He desires sons and daughters who trust Him and align their lives with His story.

In some Asian cities Scott's team is working in (with millions of people), collaboration is essential. Our individual impact is small, but together we can join God’s broader work across an entire city.

It’s not just about “my ministry,” but about contributing to God’s greater purpose in the city.

God Is Already at Work

This is a liberating truth—God is present both in us and in the harvest.

From Acts 17:26–27: Paul finds an altar to an “unknown god”—a reminder that God has already planted spiritual hunger in every culture.

We’re not arriving with all the answers; rather, we’re joining a divine treasure hunt, discovering where God is already moving and responding with faith and curiosity.

Cities Are Complex

While disciple-making movements (DMMs) have often thrived in rural settings, cities present unique challenges and opportunities.

Urban areas are dense, relationally fluid, and full of affinity groups (people connected by shared needs, interests, or causes) and urban villages (smaller, close-knit communities).

God is working through “inside leaders”—people of peace already embedded in these groups.

The key questions become:

Where is God already at work?

Where do we see hunger and openness?

What is our specific role in the “village” or affinity group we’re drawn to?

Reflection Question

What’s the one big thing God is whispering to you from this podcast?

Who can you share it with to help you take your next step in engaging your city or context?

In this episode, we listen in on a DMM (Disciple-Making Movement) training session in North Queensland with Steve and Mel Behrens. They share their journey into DMM and what drives them: a deep heart for the lost. The Behrens are practitioners and catalysts in Far North Queensland. They’ve seen fruit among Indigenous communities, everyday Aussies in various contexts, and returned soldiers. Enjoy listening as Steve and Mel share during their recent Cairns training. 

A Lost Dog

Steve shares how he was raised in the Western Province of PNG, later moving to Australia where he met and married Mel—who also carried a strong passion for the lost. They began as youth leaders and saw some fruit, but they were discontent when comparing it to what they read in the Book of Acts. Then something shifted.Mel tells a story about searching for their lost dog in a crocodile-breeding mangrove area. In that moment, God spoke to them:“You are willing to lay your lives down to find this lost dog but what about my lost children?”That moment marked a turning point. The call of God was clear: to seek the lost. But they began asking, “What’s the best way to do this?”They soon realised that the mission wasn’t just about making disciples, but making disciple-makers. This led them to movements. They began listening to what God was already doing and found themselves needing to let go of preconceived ideas and ‘baggage’ in order to embrace DMM.Their vision now is to see movements birthed—lost people coming into the Kingdom across North Queensland, into PNG, and beyond to the nations.

Passion Ignites Passion

Steve explains that God’s passion ignites passion in us. Often as Christians, we feel passionate but don’t know what to do with it—and we settle. But our hearts must remain fertile. He challenges us with a reflection from the Parable of the Sower (Matthew 28:16-20):“Where is our heart at? Is it in good soil? Are we reproducing? We need to make sure the soil of our heart remains fertile…How do we make the soil [of our hearts] good again? We go to Jesus and surround ourselves with likeminded people. As a disciple-maker, this is our core.” (Steve)

When Passion and Strategy Come Together

Addition vs. Multiplication

Mel shares the paradigm shift she and Steve underwent: moving from addition to multiplication of disciples. They illustrate this through a simple ‘build-up tiggy’ tag game.“There are people in our lives that even the best evangelists or preachers can’t reach. There are people in our networks who only we can ‘tag’.” (Mel)Mel explains how starting with 30 people each reaching 30 more over 30 years results in 900 people—addition. But beginning with just two people who each multiply yearly over 30 years could reach over 1 billion—multiplication.“So wherever you find yourself, maybe in a small country town or a big city, and you are lonely asking the question ‘where do I start?’… just grab someone else. Multiplication can start with two people.” (Mel)

Current Reality in North Queensland

In North Queensland, for every church that is planted, five are closing down. Steve and Mel highlight the urgency of recognising the spiritual climate. Yet Jesus didn’t just add—he multiplied. He modelled this for his disciples and commissioned them in Matthew 28:16–20. Once again they draw attention to the final soil in the Parable of the Sower—the one that multiplies. That’s the soil Jesus is calling us to be today.

People of peace

Luke 10:6 shows how Jesus sent out his disciples to find ‘people of peace’. These people are the ones we are called to pour into. They are spiritually open, hungry, and ready to share. They often become gateways to entire communities.Biblical examples of people of peace include:• The Woman at the Well (John 4:1–42)• The Demoniac (Mark 5:1–20)• The Philippian Jailer (Acts 16:16–36)• Zacchaeus (Luke 19:1–10)• Cornelius (Acts 10)• Lydia (Acts 16:11–15, 40)• Levi (Luke 5:27–32)• Nathanael (John 1:45–51)• Man with Leprosy (Mark 1:40–45) and many others…People of peace come in all shapes and backgrounds—whether possessed by demons or commanding Roman soldiers.

Modern-Day People of Peace

Steve and Mel close by sharing many present-day examples of people of peace they’ve met across Northern Queensland—those discovering Jesus and eager to make disciples within their own networks.“Examples of people of peace we have seen here in North Queensland include those down in Mackay who are seeing fourth generation disciples. We’re also seeing people of peace amongst New Age occult circles, home schooling communities and doctors. People in remote communities, those who own small businesses and immigrant workers. Returned soldiers struggling with PTSD who are making disciples with their own network. Those we could never reach ourselves!”

In this second part of conversation with Emanuel Prinz—movement practitioner, researcher, and author of What Actually Starts Movements—we go deeper into what truly fuels lasting spiritual movements. While many focus on methods and tools, Emanuel invites us to look upstream—to the hearts and lives of the leaders God uses to spark and sustain movements.

At the core of this episode are two key character traits Emanuel and his team have identified in effective movement catalysts: Hunger for God and Radical Learning. These two qualities, he argues, are not just common traits—they actually predict a leader’s growth trajectory and long-term fruitfulness.

1. Hunger for God

This is more than emotion—it’s a daily, disciplined pursuit of knowing and loving God deeply, often expressed through rich spiritual practices. It’s the foundation from which expectant faith, love, intercession, and boldness flow.

2. Radical Learning 

This is a posture of humility and curiosity. Movement leaders actively seek feedback, embrace failure, and adapt. Their teachability enables continual growth in ministry competence and spiritual maturity—even through seasons of disappointment.

Together, these traits mark a sharp contrast between catalytic leaders who continue to grow—and others who, though initially gifted, plateau or decline over time.

We also explore:

The depth of prayer vs. the duration of prayer—what really matters?

How effective catalysts listen to God and pray with faith for fruit

Why spiritual movements are possible in any society—even in the West

The significance of the 2.5% who are spiritually open in every community

The importance of forming small, agile catalytic teams with trust, clarity, and complementary gifting

Learning to discern the few essential things God is calling us to each day—rather than being overwhelmed by busyness

Emanuel reflects on the internal battles many leaders face and the need to give greater attention to the heart of the practitioner.

Looking ahead: Emanuel shares his vision to equip 50,000 catalytic leaders to reach unreached people groups and his hope for the future—rooted in the patience of the Father and the promise that the Kingdom will reach all nations.

🎧 Whether you're a pioneer, leader, or simply someone longing to see God move in new ways—this episode will encourage you to slow down, go deeper, and hold onto the Father’s hand.

"Hold onto the Father’s hand every moment of your life. Remind yourself that the Father is with you. This is a huge confidence booster. It changes everything." – Emanuel Prinz

Resources of Emanuel’s

Check out Emanuel's brand new book and INSTANT #1 BESTSELLER: What Actually Starts Movements:

https://www.amazon.com.au/What-Actually-Starts-Movements-Multiplication-ebook/dp/B0F5XVPLJG

See his previous title Movement Catalysts - 

https://www.amazon.com.au/Movement-Catalysts-Profile-apostolic-leader-ebook/dp/B0BHKY4845/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2SPOQ65CAMV6P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ndBDLQL1zWRXn8DesD5rIw.aDuCHLoNskkVeq8j0yzNn-utD8sB1rQKGlnYSEqiXkQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=movement+catalysts+emanuel+prinz&qid=1748485488&s=digital-text&sprefix=movement+catalysts+emanuel+prinz,digital-text,223&sr=1-1

Subscribe to his blog and podcast - https://emanuelprinz.substack.com/

You can find out more about Emanuel's ministry and his services to help boost movements at: www.catalyticleadership.info

In this two-part series, Dave sits down with Emanuel Prinz—movement researcher, author, and experienced practitioner who has witnessed God birth a disciple-making movement in a remote part of Sudan, resulting in thousands of new believers and hundreds of churches.

Emanuel is not only a pioneer on the ground but also a global researcher, having studied 147 movements worldwide, analyzing over 32,000 data points to understand what God uses to spark multiplication. The findings are captured in his latest book, What Actually Starts Movements.

In This Episode (Part 1):

Emanuel’s Journey to Movement Work

From intellectual belief to his calling to an unengaged Muslim people group in Sudan.

Learning through a 'reverse-engineering' of movements: discovering how to work with key influences and then learning the 'what' and 'how' to share.

Discovery Through Obedience and Prayer

Wrestling in prayer for clarity on God’s heart for a resistant people group.

A pivotal dream that directed him to a specific region in Sudan.

Vital Practices for Movement Breakthrough

Compassion ministry: Meeting felt needs and changing perceptions.

Radiating spirituality: Story-based Bible discovery before Discovery Bible Study (DBS) even had a name. Focusing on oral learners and inductive questions that lead to personal discovery.

The Importance of the Catalyst

God uses many methods, but there is a surprising consistency in the type of person He uses.

Emanuel's research shifts our focus from just methods to the qualities and competencies of catalytic leaders.

Movements cannot be manufactured—but we can grow into the kind of people God delights to use.

“God uses different methods to start movements. Methods do matter. But it’s not just one method [that God uses]. God uses a particular kind of person”

🌊 A Tipping Point in History

Emanuel shares these staggering global insights in the first chapter of his book:

From 15,000 (1995) to 115 million new disciples involved in movements today

8+ million new churches

Movements now represent 1.4% of the world’s population

God is creating a wave in our time—the question is, how can we join Him?

🙏 Final Encouragement from Emanuel

“Frame your pursuit of movement as a pursuit of God. Movement is secondary. My first ambition each day is to say, ‘Father, let’s live this day together.’ Don’t resign yourself to thinking movements can’t happen where you are. Instead, ask daily, ‘Father, where are you at work and how can I join you?’”

🎧 Stay Tuned for Part 2 – where Emanuel dives deeper into leadership traits, multiplication principles, and how anyone can grow into the kind of person God uses.

Resources of Emanuel’s:

📘 Grab the Book:Check out Emanuel's brand new book and INSTANT #1 BESTSELLER: What Actually Starts Movements:

https://www.amazon.com.au/What-Actually-Starts-Movements-Multiplication-ebook/dp/B0F5XVPLJG

See his previous title: Movement Catalysts:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Movement-Catalysts-Profile-apostolic-leader-ebook/dp/B0BHKY4845/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2SPOQ65CAMV6P&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ndBDLQL1zWRXn8DesD5rIw.aDuCHLoNskkVeq8j0yzNn-utD8sB1rQKGlnYSEqiXkQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=movement+catalysts+emanuel+prinz&qid=1748485488&s=digital-text&sprefix=movement+catalysts+emanuel+prinz,digital-text,223&sr=1-1

Subscribe to his blog and podcast - https://emanuelprinz.substack.com/

You can find out more about Emanuel's ministry and his services to help boost movements at - www.catalyticleadership.info

In this episode, Dave reconnects with Sam Turner, a passionate disciple-maker from Northland, New Zealand. Sam shares his journey of faith, family, and a God-given vision to see New Zealand and the nations ignited for Jesus.

From the UK to Western Australia

Sam’s move to Exmouth, WA, became a pivotal time of spiritual awakening (not to mention meeting his wife). He shares how a simple invitation to an Indigenous family for a meal blossomed into something deeply transformative. Sam met his German wife in WA. Married for just 3.5 years, they already had five children, including twins. Ministry isn’t just Sam’s calling—it’s a family mission.

A Prodigal’s Return

Throughout his young adults years, Sam sensed a persistent nudge from God, with a constant inner voice saying, “have more faith in me.” This quiet yet powerful prompting drew him back to Jesus. He immersed himself in Scripture—reading through the Bible multiple times in just a year—and was deeply moved by God's unwavering pursuit and faithfulness.

The Move to New Zealand

Sam’s wife, passionate about permaculture, prompted the family’s move to NZ. Arriving with a burdened heart for what they saw as a "fatherless nation," they connected with a local church, and Sam became a pastor.

Vision of the Matchbox

However a divine dissatisfaction stirred in Sam’s heart. He had a vision: a match striking a box, igniting flames that spread across a map of New Zealand and onto other continents. God was calling him to not hinder the Spirit and to teach the Word unapologetically.

Discovering DMM

Through a testimony of the power of prayer in Africa and the appearance of a Discovery Bible Study (DBS) sheet, Sam discovered the potential of Disciple Making Movements (DMM). Reading Contagious Disciple Making (by David and Paul Watson) confirmed his direction, and a team began to form.

“DMM is just a word we use to describe what God is doing.” – DMM Leader

Shifting Paradigms

Sam emphasises that DMM is not a method but Jesus’ model which continued throughout the book of Acts. This led Sam to re-evaluate the Great Commission and how teaching must be centred on obedience to Jesus, including the making of disciple-makers.

Transformation Stories

From drug dealers becoming disciples to gang members walking away from crime, Sam shares powerful stories of transformation. Social change follows spiritual obedience with families not just individuals being reached.

Sam also shares about his 12-year-old son who began a DBS with his friends. This sparked a new ministry—Kids for Kids—led by Sam’s wife, where children are now discipling other children.

Persistent Dissatisfaction

Despite the fruit, Sam is still hungry for more. He sees DMM as a key to global transformation and longs to see a multiplying movement across New Zealand and beyond.

“Culture has moved, but the church hasn’t kept up.”

Sam challenges the traditional mindset of church, calling for a return to the Spirit-led, disciple-making patterns of the New Testament.

A Word of Encouragement

Sam leaves us with a challenge and an encouragement:

“We are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works which God prepared in advance for us to do.” – Ephesians 2:10

Reflective Questions:

What desires has God placed on your heart?

Who in your sphere of influence is He calling you to reach?

God has prepared the works—He’s simply looking for a willing heart to say "yes".

Check out more of Sam's resources by visiting his website, disciplemakingmovement.com.

In this episode, Dave catches up with Mike Porteous while connecting with the Praxeis team and disciple-makers in New Zealand. Mike is a seasoned missions and church leader who has embraced a Disciple-Making Movement (DMM) paradigm—both locally and as far afield as Zambia. He shares his journey, key insights, and encouragement to keep disciple-making simple and Spirit-led.

Mike’s Journey

From a farming background, Mike had a powerful encounter with God at 21 that launched him into decades of mission work—from the Philippines in the '70s to serving with groups including YWAM since 1980. In the early 1990s, while on staff at what is now Gracecity Church, Mike’s hunger for real and lasting mission impact grew. Introduced to DMM through others and inspired by David and Paul Watson’s book Contagious Disciple Making, Mike knew this was a path he needed to pursue.

What's Happening Now?

Mike’s DMM work has expanded into Zambia through a connection with a Sri Lankan man working there. Though 90% of Zambians are churchgoers, transformation was lacking. But through simple DBS tools, real change is taking root. Today, three DBS streams are multiplying, and Mike continues coaching leaders to sustain and grow the movement.

Back in New Zealand

Despite initial slow traction, Mike’s persistence in starting DBS groups has led to surprising breakthroughs. One key moment came during a Sunday night training north of Auckland—attended by Sam Turner, who’s now seeing movement among gang communities. Multiplication is happening, and Sam is running far beyond what he could do himself.*

Key Shifts in Mike’s Thinking

Discovery over Teaching – Moving from telling to facilitating, Mike has learned to trust God to reveal His Word through others.

Simple Tools for Equipping – He’s passionate about helping people uncover their God-given purpose and equipping them with tools that multiply through simplicity.

Challenges

Prayer – Building prayer teams and rhythms that moves people from a place of conviction in prayer to seeing transformation.

Leadership Development – Particularly in Zambia, where structure is needed for lasting depth in an over-evangelised context.

Discernment – In New Zealand, Mike is asking: Who is the Spirit highlighting to invest in?

Final Encouragement

Mike reminds us of two things:

“The key people are probably already in your orbit....We tend to complicate things. Keep it super simple.”

*Hear more of the stories of God moving amongst gang members in the north of New Zealand at the end of this podcast.