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Making the highest-level team is not always the same thing as making the best developmental choice.
Scott and Jamie welcome Bob Mancini back for his third appearance to discuss the launch of USA Hockey’s new Development League, what it means for Tier 1 hockey, and why parents should resist treating the DL label as the only path forward.
Bob explains why a 14-year-old may develop more by playing major minutes, running the power play, and handling the puck on a Tier 1 team than by becoming the twelfth forward on a DL roster. He also breaks down the league’s plans for games, rest, off-ice training, video, championships, roster limits, and multiple entry and exit points.
The conversation also tackles the Brick Tournament argument, late development, puberty, high school and prep hockey, officiating, and the one thing that should remain part of every level of the game: fun.
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The jersey matters less than the environment where your player can develop, take ownership, and keep loving the game.
USA Hockey DL FAQ: https://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/1333125
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The best team isn't always the best place for your kid to develop.
Scott and Jamie sit down with Mike Busconi, Islanders Hockey Club - East Director and coach at The Winchendon School, to talk about youth hockey development, team selection, and the increasingly competitive road to higher levels of hockey.
Mike explains why being a bottom-line player on a top AAA team isn't always the best situation, especially when kids aren't getting enough puck touches or meaningful reps in practice. He also gets into parents chasing status over development, the pressure of year-round hockey, and why sometimes taking a step back is the smartest move.
The conversation also covers AAA hockey becoming watered down, navigating tryouts and getting cut, the benefits of prep school, and why families need to look beyond Division I when considering their child's hockey future.
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This one is a reminder for hockey parents: the goal isn't to get your kid on the best team today. It's to put them in the best position to keep getting better.
Islanders Hockey Club IG: https://www.instagram.com/ihc.hockey/
Islanders Hockey Club website: https://islandershockeyclub.com/
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The pressure meant to help a young player succeed may be the very thing holding them back.
Scott and Jamie sit down with Princeton women’s hockey head coach Courtney Kessel to talk development, recruiting, team culture, and the role parents should play as the game gets more serious.
Courtney shares her path from multi-sport athlete to Team Canada, including being the final cut from the 2014 Olympic team and returning to practice with the players who were going. She explains how that experience shaped the way she helps athletes handle disappointment, separate hockey performance from personal identity, and respond productively when they are not getting the role they want.
She also gets into what Princeton evaluates beyond talent, why culture matters more than winning, and why being the best player at a lower level may offer more development than sitting at the bottom of a stronger team. For parents, her message is direct: give players a voice, let them take ownership, and recognize when pressure is taking the joy out of the game.
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Support the player, protect the joy, and let them own the journey.
Princeton Womens Ice Hockey: https://www.instagram.com/princetonwhockey/
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The best development does not always come from the best team, the most expensive lesson, or the loudest car ride home.
Recorded live at The Hockey Barn in Atlanta, Scott and Jamie sit down with founder and longtime coach Kyle Kinze. Kyle explains how a pulmonary embolism ended his playing career at 19, why he turned to coaching, and why he built a place centered on access, creativity, free play, and community.
Kyle gets honest about growing up with a perfectionist father, changing the car ride home with his own kids, and learning that coaching a player starts with understanding the person. Scott and Jamie add their own hard-earned mistakes about expensive training, chasing higher-level teams, and pushing kids toward a version of hockey they may not want.
The conversation also tackles choosing the coach over the jersey, valuing puck touches and ice time, watching for burnout, and giving kids enough room to fall in love with the game on their own terms.
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Coach the human, protect the love of the game, and let development follow.
The Hockey Barn: https://thehockeybarnatl.com/
The Hockey Barn IG: https://www.instagram.com/thehockeybarnatl/
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Your young athlete may not need another workout. They may need better recovery and a smarter definition of strength.
Bill Parisi went from an undersized high school athlete to a two-time Division I All-American and Olympic Trials javelin competitor. He later built the Parisi Speed School from a van and his parents’ basement into a youth performance system that has trained athletes for more than three decades.
Bill explains why sleep, hydration, nutrition, and tissue care can matter as much as the next practice. He also shares why recovery is one of the biggest things parents miss. Then he challenges the idea that strength is simply a bigger squat or bench press. For hockey players trying to become harder to move around the puck, traditional lifting is only part of the equation.
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More training isn’t automatically better. The right stress, recovery, and coaching are what move an athlete forward.
Bill Parisi IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_parisi
Parisi Speed School: https://www.parisischool.com/
Parisi Speed School IG: https://www.instagram.com/parisispeedschool
Parisi Speed School YT: https://www.youtube.com/user/ParisiSpeedSchool1
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Getting cut didn’t end Guy Hebert’s hockey journey. It helped shape it.
Scott and Jamie sit down with former Mighty Ducks of Anaheim goaltender and NHL All-Star Guy Hebert to talk about an unlikely path from Troy, New York, to Hamilton College and eventually more than a decade in the NHL.
Guy shares what happened when he was cut from his high school team as a freshman and instead found a team where he could play every game, see more shots and keep developing. He also talks about growing up without private goalie coaching, the sacrifices his parents made, and their simple approach: they’d support his hockey as long as he was the one asking to play.
The conversation gets into how goaltending has changed, what youth coaches often get wrong with goalies, why young goalies need ice time and edge work, and Guy’s experiences with the Mighty Ducks, Team USA and some of the biggest names in hockey.
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Guy’s advice to young goalies is pretty simple: get as much ice time as you can, play against better players when you get the chance, and enjoy each step instead of obsessing over the top of the ladder.
Guy Hebert: https://www.instagram.com/guyhebert31
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What does a coach who’s spent decades developing elite players actually look for?
Scott and Jamie sit down with longtime North Jersey Avalanche coach Jamie Cahill to talk player development, hockey IQ, coaching, and what separates players as they move into the highest levels of youth hockey.
Jamie gets into why he’ll take hockey IQ over size, why players need the freedom to make mistakes, and how coaches can teach creativity instead of creating robots. He also explains why developing the person matters just as much as developing the player and why kids need to learn to advocate for themselves instead of having their parents do it for them.
The conversation also gets into body checking, puberty and development, position specialization, video work, player advancement, crazy hockey parents, and the changing path from youth hockey to juniors and college.
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This one gets right to the heart of development: give players room to think, make mistakes, and learn how to play the game.
North Jersey Avalanche:
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Mo's Smile: https://mosmilefoundation.org/
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NTDP, USHL, Ivy League baseball and a path that was anything but straightforward.
Scott and Jamie sit down with Subject founder Mike Vilardo to talk about a unique athletic journey that took him through AAA hockey, the U.S. National Team Development Program, the USHL, and Division I baseball at Penn and Purdue.
Mike talks candidly about struggling when he went from a top-line player to a fourth-line role, walking away from hockey, coming back to the USHL, and the decisions he’d make differently today. He also gets into why his dad prioritized ice time and puck touches over chasing the best team, and the value of letting kids work through adversity themselves.
The conversation also gets into playing multiple sports, navigating seven schools in five years, and how Mike’s experience as a student-athlete eventually helped shape Subject and its work in education.
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This one is about adversity, second chances, and realizing there’s rarely one right path.
Subject: https://subject.com
Mo's Smile: https://mosmilefoundation.org/
CHD/MSK Donation Page: http://mskcc.convio.net/goto/chdmsc2026
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He never made the NHL. He still built a decade-long pro hockey career.
Scott and Jamie sit down with former North Dakota and professional hockey player Brad Miller, now with Turtlebox Audio, to talk about a hockey path that took him from Atlanta to Shattuck-St. Mary’s, the USHL, North Dakota, and professional hockey.
Brad talks about growing up with nearly unlimited access to ice, spending hours playing unstructured hockey with his buddies, and how that helped develop creativity and hockey sense. He also gets into the jump to college hockey, unexpectedly moving from forward to defense, injuries, and building a long pro career without ever reaching the NHL.
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This one is a good reminder for hockey families: the NHL isn’t the only path to a successful hockey career.
Turtle Box: https://turtleboxaudio.com/
Pacific Rink: https://www.pacificrink.com/ discount code: CrazyDad10
Mo's Smile: https://mosmilefoundation.org/
CHD/MSK Donation Page: http://mskcc.convio.net/goto/chdmsc2026
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How one hockey dad turned a broken bag into one of hockey's most recognizable gear brands.
Scott and Jamie sit down with Pacific Rink co-founder and CEO Brad Serkin to talk about how a frustrating hockey bag experience sparked an idea that eventually grew into a brand seen in rinks around the country.
Brad takes us behind the scenes of building Pacific Rink, from prototypes and Kickstarter to getting into major retailers, and explains why the company refuses to launch products just to launch them. He also shares what's coming next, including a wheel bag they've spent years developing and new ideas designed around how hockey players actually use their gear.
The conversation also gets into surviving COVID, tariffs and supply-chain chaos, designing products through player feedback.
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This one is a look behind a piece of hockey gear most of us never think much about and how two hockey dads built a business by obsessing over it.
Pacific Rink: https://www.pacificrink.com/ discount code: CrazyDad10
Mo's Smile: https://mosmilefoundation.org/
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