Cults to Consciousness

Many of you have gotten knocks on your door lately (us included) by the Jehovah’s Witnesses inviting you to attend their upcoming weekend long convention in July. Our friend Jake at @altworldly found a LEAKED copy of their propaganda and promised it would deliver in absurdity and disgusting takes on the “apostates” who have left the religion. Join us as Shelise blind reacts to these videos.

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Part 1 of the stream

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Other video collaborations:

Ex-Mormon and Ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare CULTure (ft.  @altworldly  )

Ex- Mormon and Ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare Doctrine (ft @altworldly)

Fear of End Times: Ex-Jehovah's Witness Confessions ft. @altworldly

An ex-Mormon and ex-Jehovah's Witness Compare Notes (w/ @CultstoConsciousness )

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As a 4th generation Jehovah’s Witness, Alissa Watson followed the path laid out before her and married young at a month past 19. Against the recommendation of the doomsday cult, she had chiIdren. During the birth of her first chiId, a pool of lost blood scared her husband into looking into the doctrine of blood transfusions being a punishable sin. Unwilling to lose the life of his wife or baby during the next delivery, he confessed to his wife that he would not be following the blood doctrine if it came down to it. Alissa agreed, but had no idea it had sent her husband down a slow and secret path of deconstruction, until she confronted him about his absence in the church. Research of rampant CSA coverups, a wishy-washy governing body leader under oath and more left her shocked. Their exit out of the religion was messy and hurtful, leaving behind their entire family who refused to even look at them due to the strict practice of shunning.

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Why I Left the Jehovah's Witnesses: The Truth Behind My Exit

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:04:27 What it was like growing up as a Jehovah's Witness (pressures & disfellowshipping)

00:11:07 Why Alissa wanted to be homeschooled

00:13:16 Alissa meets her husband at 17 and doubles down on the religion

00:16:14 Dating as a Jehovah's Witness

00:18:33 The pressures of being a teenage girl having to get married

00:23:52 Alissa gets engaged, sins and thinks Satan is attacking her relationship

00:26:51 Jehovah's Witnesses discourage having chiIdren

00:30:43 The "no blood" rule causing a scare during birth

00:37:23 Alissa's husband starts secretly deconstructing

00:40:47 Was Alissa's husband filled with Satan??

00:42:47 Why Alissa's testimony crumbled overnight

00:47:59 What it was like when Alissa and her family were shunned

00:57:31 Setting boundaries and making mental health a priority

01:06:09 Why Alissa decided to start speaking out on social media

01:14:53 How Alissa's life has changed for the better

01:18:34 Linda, Listen

01:20:40 Find and support Alissa!

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During WWII the horrific extermination of religious and ethnic groups forced people to denounce their faith and hail Hitler for their own survival. Owen Morgan, former JW and successful YouTuber  @OwenMorganTelltale  dove into the rabbit hole to extensively research the position and stories of the JW people at the time. He explains how Joseph Franklin Rutherford, the second leader of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, made an attempt to align with the Nazi regime to  maintain freedom of worship. However, he took things a step further, actively harming the witnesses and taking the religion in a cultic direction. 

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Watch our initial interview with Owen:

The Extremely Isolated Life of Growing Up Jehovah's Witness

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IG: @owenmorgantelltale 

Website:  www.owenmorgan.com

Book: Was Hitler an Atheist? 

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Chapter marks:

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:09 Owen's motivation for researching the N*zi's treatment of Jehovah's Witnesses during World War II

00:04:26 Owen's reasons for leaving the church

00:06:36 German Christian national*sm and H*tler's connection to the Jehovah's Witnesses

00:10:53 Rutherford's letter to H*tler

00:12:10 JW's support of N*zism vs the well known rule of no politics

00:15:44 Frank's story as a JW  in N*zi Germany

00:21:24 Paul Balzereit's story

00:23:40 How JW's were forced into signing the declaration to H*tler

00:25:35 How Rutherford came into leadership and the changes he brought

00:31:51 Why Rutherford released the statement and the resiliency of JW members

00:37:44 Corruption in leadership of Jehovah's Witnesses vs Mormonism

00:41:15 Rac*sm in the Jehovah's Witness religion and Mormonism

00:44:46 Different schisms of Jehovah's Witnesses and their similarities with the main group

00:48:17 Word of wisdom hot drinks vs caffeine debate in Mormonism

00:51:44 How and why trivial religious rules and how they can dictate people's entire lives

00:57:21 Other recent changes to the religion

01:00:05 Financial holdings and corruption in the JW religion

01:07:17 Guilt and being a good person as a Jehovah's Witness

01:13:03 Linda, listen

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Bethany was raised in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, only to realize she had been part of a cult for thirty years. The psychological pressure cooker exploded in her 20s with quickly deteriorating mental health. The faux perfectionism drove her into an eating disorder as a means to gain any form of control over her life. When she could no longer pretend anymore, questioning authority and pursuing her personal freedom cost her, her devout family.  She now has a YouTube channel where she discusses the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ harmful policies.

Today we are going LIVE with Bethany to further dive into how the Jehovah’s Witnesses completely ruined her relationship with her parents.  

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Watch the initial interview here  

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Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bethanyleger

website: www.bethanyleger.com

YT: https://www.youtube.com/@stoptheshunning

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Bethany’s book: Physically In, Mentally Out: Navigating Your Exit From Watchtower

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Bethany Leger was raised in the Jehovah’s Witnesses, only to realize she had been part of a cult for thirty years. The psychological pressure cooker exploded in her 20s with quickly deteriorating mental health. The faux perfectionism drove her into an eating d*sorder as a means to gain any form of control over her life. When she could no longer pretend anymore, questioning authority and pursuing her personal freedom cost her, her devout family.  She now has a YouTube channel where she discusses the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ h*rmful policies.

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Chapter Marks:

00:00:00 Intro

00:04:25 Defining the Jehovah's Witness religion as a cult-like group

00:06:02 What Bethany's family was like growing up

00:11:08 Core beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses

00:15:23 Bethany's gut feelings about the church and the obligation to fulfill duties

00:23:20 CW: ED Developing h*rmful behaviors and realizing how being a JW makes Bethany really feel

00:25:21 CW: ED Bethany's experience in high school that led her to evaluate the Jehovah's Witnesses

00:38:45 What Bethany's mom did to keep her in the religion

00:41:16 Bethany's parents' conflicting values and where that confusion ultimately led her

00:46:26 How self policing kept Bethany as a Jehovah's Witness after high school

00:49:30 The tension in Bethany reaches a breaking point CW: su*cid*l ideation

00:51:54 The last time Bethany stepped foot in a Kingdom Hall

00:58:29 The moment that changed Bethany's perspective forever

01:02:02 CW: SA Jehovah's Witness SA cases in Australia

01:03:12 CW: SA The two witness rule and how it allows rampant ab*se to fester for years

01:06:10 Barbara Anderson's story

01:13:59 New changes to how shunning works

01:19:09 How Bethany is doing now

01:22:51 Linda, listen

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Melanie and Cory grew up in the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) at the Montana compound. They wouldn’t  meet, however, until long after leaving the cult and all their family behind. Almost a polygamous wife, Melanie had a horrible arranged marriage at a young age and did whatever it took to get out and become free. Now, we look at what happens when a funeral brings them both back to the compound to face estranged family members as apostates. How did their families react to them now that they have a YouTube channel exposing the AUB? Tune in to find out! 

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One of the polygamous offshoots of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) where the famous Kody Brown and Sister Wives come from. Melanie grew up in this group with 4 mothers and 34 and counting siblings. Her Father was an apostle when she was growing up, but would go on to become the prophet. A position that is said to commune directly with God and Jesus themselves. The highest calling on Earth. Melanie and her siblings were shocked when such an ab*sive man would be given such a sacred calling. Melanie, destined to become a plural wife herself, would have to put up with her spouse courting a 16 year old girl while she was pregnant! She lived a life full of grief and pain and void of real romantic love, until she gained the courage to escape and leave her entire family and community behind. 

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Watch Melanie and Cory in our LIVE interview

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:36 Why Melanie Started Sharing Her Story; Her ChiIdhood

00:08:07 Melanie’s Father Had a Favorite Wife and How it Impacted Her as a ChiId

00:16:40 Specifics about the AUB and Melanie’s First Marriage

00:22:42 Melanie’s First Husband, and How Her Mother Taught Her Not to See Race

00:25:39 CW: CSA, SA, Beginning of Melanie’s First Marriage & How She Avoided Getting Pregnant

00:30:55 CW: Mentions of Self-H*rm, Melanie Shares How Marriage was as a Teenager in the AUB and How It Impacted Her

00:38:15 What it Was Like Dating Her First Husband and a Potential Plural Wife

00:46:28 CW: CA, Melanie’s Faith Crisis After Her Father Became an Apostle & Her First Time Leaving the AUB

00:52:35 Returning to the AUB for A Time After Her Son was Born

00:56:03 Getting Divorced and Meeting Her 2nd Husband

01:05:47 Melanie’s Deconstruction & Her Father Becoming Prophet of the AUB

01:11:04 Shocking Information about Her Best Friend

01:18:15 Melanie’s Life Now and the Progress She's Made

01:27:06 Final Thoughts and What Brings Melanie Joy

01:29:40 Linda, listen

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Shannon Foley Martinez was a vict*m of CSA at age 14.  Never quite able to meet her parent's expectations, Martinez sought out other angry teens. By 16 she was a sk*nhead spouting white supremac*st rhetoric, giving stiff-armed N*zi salutes and tagging public property with swast*kas. Fortified by the love of an adopted family, Martinez left the sk*nheads behind, and today is committed to devoting the rest of her life to helping dismantle the culture of white suprem*cy, as well as helping others find their way to the other side of a life of hate.

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Chapter Marks

00:03:27 Shannon's chiIdhood and vulnerabilities that led her to joining a Neo N*zi group

00:12:06 How sports helped Shannon

00:15:34 How moving during a vulnerable developmental age effected Shannon

00:24:39 What high school was like for Shannon

00:28:35 A night that changed Shannon's life at 14

00:30:42 CW: r*pe How Shannon's traum*tic experience at a party led to h*rmful behaviors

00:35:34 Shannon's mom blamed her for be v*ctimized

00:43:32 How Shannon's undirected anger led her to the wrong crowd

00:49:16 How rac*sm come into play for Shannon

00:55:15 What a woman's role in the movement looks like

01:00:50 How Shannon found her way out

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Shannon Foley Martinez was a victim of CSA at age 14.  Never quite able to meet her parent's expectations, Martinez sought out other angry teens. By 16 she was a skinhead spouting white supremacist rhetoric, giving stiff-armed Nazi salutes and tagging public property with swastikas. Fortified by the love of an adopted family, Martinez left the skinheads behind, and today is committed to devoting the rest of her life to helping dismantle the culture of white supremacy, as well as helping others find their way to the other side of a life of hate. 

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Watch pt 1:  https://youtu.be/SjlWNeLPKtA?si=4h-zGqOrC_ePCIx-

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:02:54 Resetting living in a safe environment

00:10:58 What made Shannon change her perspective

00:17:14 How Shannon's college experience opened her eyes to new information

00:23:05 Having chiIdren changed Shannon’s outlook & goals

00:33:32 Breaking cycles with Shannon’s chiIdren and grandchiIdren

00:37:09 Setting healthy boundaries and figuring out appropriate expectations

00:42:29 Boundaries with adult chiIdren in the home

00:45:37 Shannon's continued healing journey and coming to peace within herself

00:56:17 Linda, listen

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Christian Picciolini found himself stumbling through high school, struggling to find a community among other fans of punk rock music. There, he was recruited by a notorious white power sk*nhead leader and encouraged to fight with the movement to "protect the white race from extinction." Soon, he had become an expert in rac*st philosophies, a terror who roamed the neighborhood, quick to throw fists. When his mentor was sent to prison, sixteen-year-old Picciolini took over the man's role as the leader of an infamous neo-Naz* sk*nhead group.

Seduced by the power, he accrued through intimidation, and swept up in the rhetoric he had adopted, Christian worked to grow an army of extrem*sts. He used music as a recruitment tool, launching his own propag*nda band that performed at white power rallies around the world. But slowly, as he started a family of his own and a job that for the first time brought him face to face with people from all walks of life, he began to recognize the cracks in his hat*ful ideology. Then a shocking loss at the hands of rac*al viol*nce changed his life forever, and Picciolini realized too late the full extent of the h*rm he'd caused.

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christianpicciolini.com

“White American Youth": whiteamericanyouth.com

"Breaking H*te”: breakinghate.com

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:05:33 How Christian was vulnerable to recruitment and thus got involved

00:12:12 American History X and its parallels to Christian’s experience

00:13:41 The moment that Christian realized v*olence equaled power

00:17:30 How Christian went from going along with the ideologies to really believing them

00:19:39 What the goal of the movement was

00:22:50 Christian's double life participating in the movement while also playing football

00:26:12 Christian's experience with a black body guard in high school

00:33:13 The facade begins to fade after Christian's recruiter goes to prison

00:36:32 How their h*te for others was rooted in their h*te for themselves

00:38:40 Why and how women join these groups

00:41:55 How these groups self contain their ideas and how it warps member's perception of reality

00:45:35 Christian's marriage and its fallout gave him the freedom to leave the movement

00:51:48 Christian non-linear path to healing and how meeting someone from his past changed his future

01:00:11 The importance of accountability in healing

01:02:27 Where Christian is today and what brings him joy

01:05:15 What Christian's relationship is like with his sons and how they feel about his past

01:12:11 Linda, listen

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