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Fox News' Jessica Tarlov joins ex-evangelical pastor Pat Kahnke to ask: can you actually talk to Trump supporters and love your MAGA family while telling the truth? This Raging Moderates collaboration dives into her new book I Disagree: Winning Arguments Without Losing Friends.
Tarlov, Democratic strategist and co-host of The Five, shares her playbook for winning arguments without losing friends — how to debate family in the MAGA echo chamber, why "when you're being criticized on style, you have won on the substance," and how to be ruthless and kind, sharp but not cruel. Pat responds from his journey out of evangelical Republicanism after 2016, plus what he’s learning about corruption, cruelty, and the 2026 midterms with candidates like Jon Ossoff, James Talarico and Rob Sand.
Jack Smith's explosive Senate hearing exposed the crisis of MAGA Christians and Christian nationalism as Senators Eric Schmitt and John Kennedy grilled the former special counsel to defend Donald Trump. Pat argues this moment revealed exactly who they are — and why we must never forget what they did when they had the power — even if Trump-era political power fades.
Jack Smith went before the Senate Judiciary Committee to defend his investigations into Donald Trump and the Republicans were embarrassed with their failed "gotcha" attempt. Plus, what's going on with Tim Tebow and the Life Surge scandal and have we found Noah's Ark... again? Pat Kahnke discusses all this and more on Culture, Faith, and Politics live!
How did MAGA turn evangelical worship music and worship songs into weapons of war for Christian nationalism? Author Rick Pidcock joins Pat Kahnke to expose how Trump rallies weaponize praise and worship to fuel extremism.
Pastor Adam Hamilton confronts Senator Roger Marshall in the Kansas Senate race after a devastating ad exposed Marshall suing 700 poor patients, with JD Vance defending Christian nationalism amid medical debt, Medicaid cuts and hypocrisy.
In this episode, retired pastor Pat Kahnke breaks down Ossoff's most devastating moral refutation yet. Ossoff, a Jewish Senator speaking in Black churches across Georgia, names what MAGA pastors will not preach: a government transformed into a tool of one man's vengeance and enrichment, corruption as a kitchen-table issue, and a spiritually broken president who digs the moral pit deeper and deeper.
In this clip from our live stream, Pat Kahnke and Adam Swenson unpack why the White House wants to ban real reporters while building its own North Korea-style propaganda channel, how anti-intellectualism and constant chaos wear the public down until they quit politics, and what Jason Stanley means by fascist. We also revisit the turning point at St. John's Church — when Trump tear-gassed peaceful protestors for that Bible photo op — and why that moment exposed everything about faith being used as a prop for power.
Abdul El-Sayed's viral response to a pro-life student on abortion shows why the Michigan Democrat is leading the Michigan Senate race. This 8-minute abortion debate moment is a masterclass in how Democrats can talk to pro-life voters with honesty and empathy — and win.
In this clip from Tuesday night's live stream with Ken Napzok, Pat and Ken refute Hegseth's use of Isaiah 6:8 as a Christian nationalist battle cry. Isaiah 6 doesn't start with "send me" — it starts with "woe is me." Isaiah's vision leads to confession, repentance, and a hard message to his own people about justice, not a crusade against external enemies.
Why are Christian women leaving evangelical churches in record numbers? In Part 2 of my interview with author Sarah Stankorb (Damned If She Does), we break down how Donald Trump endorsements, MAGA Christianity, Christian nationalism, purity culture, and church abuse cover-ups are driving women out of the pews for good.
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Pat Kahnke has written two books, from a pastoral perspective, to reject Donald Trump and his MAGA movement:
A Christian Case Against Donald Trump (2024)
MAGA Seduction: Resisting the Debasement of the Christian Conscience (2020)
He was an evangelical church planter and pastor for twenty years before retiring from church ministry in 2016. Planted a church in the inner city of St. Paul, MN - part of the Baptist General Conference (Converge) and Alliance for Renewal Churches. A lifelong conservative Republican until the party left him in 2016. Now a political independent, he has written off the Republican party until it completes 40 years in the wilderness for its capitulation to the MAGA movement.
This podcast contains political and social commentary related to issues at the intersection of culture, faith, and politics.
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