Tom Haberstroh, Amin Elhassan and producer Anthony Mayes will not be silenced by doubters, no matter how high profile they are.

Following another beat down at the hands of the Celtics, have the Knicks hit their ceiling as a good but not great team?

Meanwhile on the west coast, Jimmy Butler has shifted the Warriors mindset towards belief, and it's affecting the Illumination.

A soldier in the field directs our attention to the proliferation of teams scoring over 140 points in a game.

Finally, Surgeon General Jeff Stotts of InStreetClothes.com joins us to discuss Wemby's shut down and Joel Embiid's future.

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