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The Father Figure vs. The Dad Bod — How Parenthood Changes Your Relationship With Fitness

For the first time ever, it's just Drew and John. No Alex, no guests — just two dads talking honestly about what happens to training when kids show up and life gets real.

This isn't a "here's how to stay jacked after having kids" episode. It's more honest than that. It's about shifting your entire reason for training, giving yourself permission to let go of who you were in the gym before kids, and why the example you set matters more than any number on the bar.

Drew is a single dad to a five-year-old girl. John has a three-year-old daughter and an eight-month-old son. Both of them have figured some of this out the hard way.

What we get into:

How both of their relationships with fitness completely changed after having kids — and why that's actually a good thing.

Why Drew stopped caring about PRs and started doing yoga in the garage with his daughter.

John's 12-and-a-half-year streak of daily pushups, the Hugh Jackman Wolverine program, and what 11 days of keto on coconut oil actually feels like.

The girl dad angle — setting the standard for the type of person your daughter grows up to value, and why that starts now.

Why being "there" after a brutal training session isn't the same as being present.

Facing your own mortality when you become a parent — and why that's less dark than it sounds.

The stroller as a training tool, hiking in dresses, and using your kid as a weight because she thinks it's hilarious.

The Open by Andre Agassi, early sports specialization, and why making fitness fun early beats everything else.

Mentioned in this episode:

Mass Hysteria by Michael Blevins — All In Performance, required reading for girl dads

The Open by Andre Agassi — John's current read, highly recommended

Long and Strong — the Mops and Moes training program on Train Heroic

Phil Collins, Tarzan, Brother Bear, Robin Hood, The Wild Robot — Drew has opinions

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