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We were recently invited to give the keynote presentation for the 2026 Fort Benning Human Performance Symposium. In the process of putting our talk together, we solidified our "core fore" concepts that help us filter through everything going on in the military human performance space. This led us to our main argument, which is that we should aim for "data informed" but not "data driven" to avoid falling into some common traps.

Several people who couldn't attend the symposium asked if there was a way to listen to the talk, so we thought we'd just publish it as a podcast episode.

Key topics we cover include: Nazareth Syndrome, Goodhart's Law, Mcnamara's Fallacy, and Hammond's Corollary (yes it's named after Drew). From there we dive into the challenge of defining "lethality" and what data can and can't do to measure it.

Special shout out to SGT Donovan Saulsberry whose incredible voice you'll hear when he introduces us. Apparently he's the unofficial (or maybe official?) voice of Fort Benning. Let us know whether we should hire him to record a new intro for our podcast...

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This episode started with a question: What's worse, a bad coach or no coach at all?

The answer, at least according to all of you who voted, was nearly unanimous that a bad coach is worse than not having a coach in the first place.

So to follow up, we asked what differentiates good coaches from bad coaches, and you guys had a lot to say! In this episode we sort through all the answers we got.

Incidentally, in the process of putting this together we also discovered that the Army has an excellent doctrinal definition of coaching, so we review that as well.

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In our second "Industry Episode" we're learning about a company almost every service member has at least noticed on their installation: BeaverFit.

And if you've been confused about the odd company name, don't worry, we get that history right away. Tom Beaver, founder of BeaverFit UK, built his first outdoor training rig in 2006 while preparing for the grueling Enduroman Arch to Arc, an 87-mile run from London to the English Channel, a swim across the Channel and a 180-mile bike ride to Paris.

A few years later, the Special Air Service teams from Hereford — just a stone’s throw away from the Beaver family farm in Shropshire — spent a day with Tom training on his unique outdoor rig and immediately asked him to build them one.

Our guest for this discussion is Jason Clark, BeaverFit's Director of Education and Training. Jason is a Marine Corps combat veteran and former drill instructor. He later went on to work in the fitness industry and then as a strength and conditioning director for the Marine Corps HITT program. He also served on the advisory board for human performance at HQ Marine Corps.

Since this is one of our “industry episodes” our conversation will be more focused on BeaverFit than Jason himself, but the Any Given Day podcast just published an episode that’s much more personal, so if you want to learn more about the guy, check it out!

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If you've been following any of the recent news around modernization of military dining facilities, there's a good chance Chef Irvine was behind the scenes making it happen. As you'll hear in this conversation he's deeply involved in these efforts, and he's doing it all for free. He started his career as a cook in the British Royal Navy, and after rising to culinary fame, he's giving back to service members in a variety of ways.

Chef Robert Irvine is an English-American celebrity chef and talk show host who has appeared on and hosted a variety of Food Network programs including Dinner: Impossible, Worst Cooks in America, Restaurant: Impossible, A Hero's Welcome, Operation Restaurant, All-Star Academy, Guy's Grocery Games, Chopped: Impossible, and Restaurant Express. Irvine currently operates one restaurant, Fresh Kitchen by Robert Irvine, located within The Pentagon. 

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Among other things, this episode discusses the alcohol culture in the military, as well as the role of spirituality in holistic health. Lieutenant Commander (Retired) Drew Sinclair knows a thing or two about both of those, based on his unique and challenging personal journey. From enlisted Rescue Swimmer to OCS to a successful officer career, on the surface it seemed like Drew had it all figured out. But as a high functioning alcoholic, things below the surface weren't so great. After retiring Drew reinvented himself with a focus on a holistic approach to healthier living.

Drew Sinclair is a retired U.S. Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer (#700) and Officer who spent more than two decades on the front lines of search and rescue. After overcoming childhood trauma, breaking generational cycles, and walking away from alcohol, Drew completely reinvented his life by rebuilding his identity, deepening his faith, and reshaping his priorities. He now leads a life centered on faith, family, fitness, and freedom.

Drew travels full-time across America in an RV with his wife, three kids, two dogs, and a cat, documenting their journey while coaching busy men to reclaim their health through simple, disciplined hybrid training. His grounded, transparent storytelling, from mountain runs to mindset shifts, has inspired countless men to step back into a leadership role in their life and embrace strength and purpose.

Drew’s message is clear: life does not end at 40. It begins the moment you take ownership, make a decision, and commit to becoming the man you were meant to be. His story is not just about transformation. It is a blueprint for anyone ready to rebuild their life from the inside out.

Follow Drew on his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedrewsinclair/

Our Drew (Hammond) mentioned discovering our guest Drew (Sinclair) through a facebook post, you can find that here: https://www.facebook.com/andrew.sinclair.1982/videos/when-i-retired-from-the-coast-guard-i-thought-everything-would-be-easyi-thought-/1296994402252868/

We also make a couple references to a podcast episode more focused on his rescues, you can find that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpwY-tCyqu0

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This week we're bringing you an episode of the Captains and Coaches podcast hosted by Tex McQuilkin. Alex met Tex at the 1st Armored Division H2F summit at Ft Bliss, and Tex really appreciated the discussion of Nazareth Syndrome from Alex's presentation. He also gave a hell of a hands on coaching development session.

At Captains & Coaches, they believe leadership isn’t just taught—it’s built through action, resilience, and teamwork. Their mission is to empower athletes, captains, and coaches to excel not just in sports, but in life. They don’t just focus on physical training. They deliver a comprehensive approach to developing confidence, leadership, and mental toughness. Whether you’re guiding a team, leading on the field, or supporting from the sidelines, their tailored programs are designed to meet your unique needs and drive long-lasting results.

Tex McQuilkin brings over 15 years of transformative experience as the Founder and Leadership Strategist of Captains & Coaches. His unique methodology bridges the gap between physical excellence and leadership mastery, empowering athletes to become exceptional performers and influential leaders.

From youth athletes to elite collegiate competitors and special operations forces, Tex has guided individuals and teams to breakthrough achievements through his signature blend of disciplined training and empathetic mentorship. As a former four-year starter and three-year team captain for Marymount University Men's Lacrosse, he intimately understands the challenges and opportunities that shape athletic leadership.

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In this week's episode we break down a number of major updates to the Holistic Health and Fitness (H2F) program that were presented by LTG David Francis at a recent AUSA Hot Topic session.

Key topics discussed:

- H2F Return on Investment (ROI) data

- Athletic Trainer contracting

- Planned expansion over the next few years

- H2F in the Army Reserve and National Guard

- Planned facilities, called Soldier Performance Readiness Centers (SPRCs)

- Benefits observed from shifting PT time

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For at least the last four decades every soldier who has taken a PT test has listened to a scripted set of instructions before starting. Those instructions, whether it was an APFT, ACFT, or AFT included one identical sentence:

"The results of this test will give you and your commanders an indication of your state of fitness and will act as a guide in determining your physical training needs."

But if you ask soldiers whether they've ever been given feedback on what their scores say about their training needs, most will say no.

That's why we put together AFT Insight. It includes a calculator that will turn your raw performances into point scores, but it's also much more than a calculator. It will help you determine your "fitness archetype" and explain what that says about how you should train.

Try AFT Insight here: https://aftinsight.com/

In this holiday season as we approach the end of the year, we're getting a little reflective. In this episode, we're looking back at the experiences that got us to where we are in terms of how we approach our own health and fitness. Hopefully along the way we highlight some helpful insights.

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This episode actually originated at AUSA during the Sergeant Major of the Army's Professional Development Forum. When CSM Curry submitted a question asking whether physical training during PME would actually be strenuous, I knew I wanted to hear his perspective. And then when I found out he already listened to this podcast, it was a done deal.

Command Sergeant Major Shaun D. Curry is a native of Wauwatosa, WI and he enlisted in Army in February 2001. CSM Curry’s previous assignments include 2nd Ranger Battalion (JBLM, WA), Human Resources Command / 75th Ranger Regiment Headquarters (Fort Knox, KY), 3rd Ranger Battalion (Fort Benning, GA), 6th Ranger Training Battalion (Eglin AFB, FL), Operations SGM of 2nd Battalion 5th SFAB (JBLM, WA), Battalion CSM of 1st Battalion 21 Infantry Regiment (Schofield Barracks, HI). His most recent assignment was the Brigade CSM for 3rd Infantry Brigade, 25th Infantry Division (Schofield Barracks, HI).

CSM Curry completed all levels of the Noncommissioned Officer Professional Military Education up to and including the Sergeants Major Academy (Class 69). His additional military schooling includes Airborne School, the 75th Ranger Regiment Ranger Indoctrination Program (RIP), Static Line Jump Master School, Survival Evasion Resistance and Escape (SERE-C), Reconnaissance Senior Leaders Course (RSLC), Sexual Harassment/Assault Response and Prevention Foundation Course (SHARP), the Common Faculty Development Program Instructor Course (CFDPIC), Master Resilience Training Course (MRT), Combat Advisor Training Course (CAT-C) and Jungle Operations Training Course (JOTC). CSM Curry holds a Master of Science in Organizational Development and Leadership from the University of the Incarnate Word.

CSM Curry deployed 14 times for a total of 61 months to both Afghanistan and Iraq in support of the Global War on Terror. His awards and decorations include the Legion of Merit, the Bronze Star Medal with “V” device, Bronze Star Medal (3rd award), Purple Heart, Meritorious Service Medal (5th award), Joint Service Commendation Medal, the Combat Infantryman Badge, Expert Infantryman Badge, the Ranger Tab, Master Parachutists Badge, and he is a member of the Order of Saint Maurice.

CSM Curry is married and has three children.

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