Culture First with Damon Klotz

Designing for love and magic, with Oshoke Abalu & Chinedu Echuero


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How do we foster love and magic within our organizations? This is the question on which architect Pamela Oshoke Abalu and serial entrepreneur Chinedu Echuero founded the Love & Magic Company.


Their job is to help change-makers develop enthused and powerful business solutions. In this episode of the Culture First Podcast, Damon explores with them what it means for work to be “love made visible”.


They discuss the concept of seeing your customer or employee as your beloved, designing for your mother, and empathy as fuel for innovation. 


Later in the episode, Erika Kuhl, former VP of Community at Salesforce, talks to us about her journey building a 3 million+ member thriving Salesforce Trailblazer Community where members go to connect, learn and give back. We learn about her journey having the company recognize the community’s value, and the role that deep listening played.


As a gift to our podcast listeners, we are offering Oshoke and Chinedu’s “How To Bring Your Idea To Life”, a profoundly valuable playbook presenting a systematic and scientific approach to organizing teams and innovating.


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To download the “How To Bring Your Idea To Life” Playbook or read this episode's transcript, head to www.culturefirstpodcast.com/love

To learn more about Oshoke and Chinedu's work, go to https://loveandmagic.company/.

To find out more about Erica Kuhl, visit https://www.ericakuhl.com

To watch this podcast's video teaser, get an update when new episodes launch or find more information, head over to www.culturefirstpodcast.com, and to learn more about Culture Amp, visit www.cultureamp.com.


Host: Culture Amp’s Work Culture Evangelist, Damon Klotz. 

Production:  Sarah Lessire.

Assistant Production: Ayla Cleworth

Editing: Nick Jaworski at Podcast Monster. 

Design: Nicole Dominic, Amelia Chieng and Christine Tapawan. 

Culture Amp Data: Vivian Woo. 

Video: Kyle Doan. 

Original music: Sarah Lessire. 

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