Today Carl talks with Devon Zagory -- one of the world's foremost experts on food safety. Not so exciting, you might think. But Devon's life journey has been anything but boring. This hippie college dropout hitchhiked around the world, found clarity in drug exploration and ends up not only graduating from college but obtaining a PHD and a second degree, with a passion for helping poor farmers in rural countries around the world.   After years of financial struggles, Devon became a reluctant entrepreneur and eventually a multi-millionaire. It's quite a trip! And now he shares what he is discovering about himself in (un)retirement. It's fascinating.   • To subscribe to the "I Used to be Somebody" newsletter: https://pickleballmediahq.com    • For more information, visit the web blog: https://pickleballmediahq.com/blog/Devon-Zagory-interview-Food-Safety-Superhero